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Been here a long time....this thread is top 10 for one of the dumbest conversations ever.

The GID is clearly your best avenue for addressing your concerns.

IHSAA calls it "unique," which is laughable. There's a reason only one state does it this way, because it's really kind of stupid. If the Brownsburg/Ben Davis game didn't open eyes, than nothing will. What would Texas, California, Georgia, or Ohio say if they were told, "by the way, the two best teams in the state are going to meet in the first round." They'd declare lunacy. Would these same people who voted against seeding vote for a blind draw for the college football playoff? We all know the answer to that. Kudos to Bob Gaddis for his politically correct response.

merriville doesnt need 3500 kids, they already have 105 future hall of famers on the roster

Last year he had sons playing for Lake Central and Portage. Guy needs to stick with one story and ride it out.

The claim that "the guy" was right "99% of the time" was the next clue. 🤣

The trophy says IHSAA (Year) Football Champions (Class) Which is accurate. They are the state champion of that class. Are there some years the 6A State Champion might not be the overall State Champion/superior team? It's plausible. I think if you win your class, you earn the right to be called a State Champion.

no no no don't wait to sober up, lets here the hot takes

Man if my wife was a physician I’d be a stay at home husband

why? there are some years where you can speculate some about a few of the larger class champions (mainly 4/5 being able to compete in a one off with the champion of 6a) unless ur putting all classes together for a gigantic tournament to find out who the real champion is i don't see the point in making one team of high schoolers state champions and everyone else class champions based on where they grew up

With the recent seeding proposal shot down quicker than ...well I can't come up with anything "catchy" - but anyway, with it being shot down it got me wondering. The NFL/NBA commissioner has to answer to the owners of the league. Who does the IHSAA "brass/higher ups/executive committees" quote/unquote have to "answer to??" Like...who hires these positions? And...who/do they have bosses to answer to? The IFCA presents a proposal for seeding...the IHSAA just says "NOPE"...and that is it?? The IHSAA decides they are going to do this new 1A-4A classification thing for non-football sports...and they viola - it happens! Meanwhile, their is a big contingent that thinks it would be a better idea in football to have the biggest 32 in 6A...smallest 32 in 1A, then rest split evenly...but the IHSSA says - NOPE!! I will admit I am ignorant on the whole deal so there may be an easy answer to this...but sometimes it just seems to me like the IHSAA higher ups are like the almighty OZ.

Hopefully a PUBLIC school emerges... Lord, I DON'T apologize for anything.

I actually heard that, upon the announcement that Faith Christian was going to go to 11-man this season, some 20-25 players from the LCC football team became Baptists and will be attending Faith in the fall. Lord, I apologize for that there.

Oh well in that case - yes we can carry on and talk about how good the Tigers are 😄

You guys also seem to be under the impression that principals give two shits about seeding. Certainly some do, but for the masses, nobody cares. And make no mistake it is the principals who pull the weight, not the AD’s.

I am not even talking about "HIS" rankings. I am talking about "HIM" posing as a mother of football players.

Man, this is some great stuff right here. Mental illness on full display.

Oh, I know. A harmless question, but there are no harmless questions with him.

Please don't encourage him. "footballmomma", lol.

Or maybe you are responding TO that guy???

Perspective…

https://www.ihsaa.org/sites/default/files/documents/Boys Football Classifications for 2024-25 and 2025-26.pdf

I’ve long stated, if you’re a sports fan, I can drive within an hour of my house on any given Friday night and see a quality athletic event for 5-6-7 bucks whatever it costs to get in. You can not beat that entertainment value anywhere. And I’ll never get my panties in a wad investing in our youth. You want to talk about property taxes, let’s examine why every cop in the state is driving a new SUV, why local police forces need APC’s, and all the high tech gadgetry that they do to basically enforce traffic laws and bust high school drinking parties.

Is this what your hatred is really about? Because you didn't get to play on it, you feel kids today shouldn't? I believe in wanting BETTER for kids today than what I had it. Turf solves a lot of problems for some schools. Take Sheridan. By adding turf, not only does our football program get a top-notch field to play on, but the soccer games can all be moved to the turf as well. For the past forever, they have been playing soccer on a very outdated soccer field that is off-campus, raising concerns for student and fan safety. The old soccer field will now be town property, where the plan is to build a new larger capacity salt barn, which obviously benefits the community. Also, the band will get to utilize the new turf. Moving their practices from the blacktop parking lot where they have been since before the 00s, to a safer (and cooler) turf field. Are some schools changing to turf just to spend extravagantly? Sure. However, to assume that EVERY school is doing that, is naive and ignorant.

oh yeah...when I am filing my taxes each year, I fixate on that local tax....that one's the killer!!!! Seriously, my beef with taxes is the feds....I appreciate not paying additional taxes across the board and not a fan of rising property tax...but the vast majority of my tax dollars isn't consumed at the local level.

I believe this is the “equity” I am always hearing about modern education. Punish the high end students/programs to cater to the low performing ones. Pretty soon we are going to have a “redistribution” of accomplishments and Brownsburg is going to have to forfeit 3 of their wins and give them to Pike so that no one’s feelings get hurt and everyone can tout their “accomplishments.”

If anyone hasn't donated yet, please do. You can't tell me this stuff isn't worth the price of admission.

I dont think you been to an Applebee's lately....🤣

Exactly. There’s the problem. Schools vote their individual interests. No one is interested in what’s best for Indiana high school football.

Man, I despise politics with a passion, but the right wing, extremist, attitude of the IHSAA is very troubling and reeks of the good old boy network. How many out of touch old fools does it take to use just a tad bit of common sense and seed a tournament?

The Brownsburg and Ben Davis game of 2023 (if there already wasn't a better example) SHOULD have been the eye opener. Unless you're living under a rock (which apparently some of the powers that be are doing). Bob's a great guy and I'm glad I (along with all of you) have the reading ability to know what Bob really means/ wants to say here. Lol

I liken this to people wanting a national football tournament, because HS kids need to be playing an NFL length season I guess. The goal of every HS team is to win a state championship. They’ve done that when they won their class, there’s nothing more to play for. The goal has been achieved. Now we’re going to have another six team bracket so a couple of over top idiot dads can have bragging rights? I’m sure you guys will want to seed it as well, so we’d have CG v Tiny School that no one from CG has ever heard of. What the hell would entice Tiny school that no one from CG has ever heard to even want to play this game? It’s stupid.

"Unique," lol. "The blind draw gives teams with poor records a chance to play somebody they could possibly beat in the first round. " Didn't that ship leave the port when Team A spent more time weight training in the off-season than Team B? I know this for certain even though I'm over 100 miles away. Those Brownsburg seniors busted their tails for four years for their shot at the state title. This wonderful idea the IHSAA came up with (something 49 other states scratch their heads at), sent those kids packing after one game. Shame on the IHSAA.

Mr. Neddenriep from the Indianapolis Star's take: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/24/indiana-high-school-football-coaches-dont-get-wish-on-tournament-seeding-ifca-proposal-ihsaa/73085086007/

Here I'll lube em up for u Right wingers could see the whole picture much clearer if they could ever take their eyes off their sisters Left wingers are a bunch of hypocritical closet racists that will believe any sob story you tell them Libertarians stand for nothing, and despite all their yapping accomplish much of the same The only politician out there who tells it like it is is vermin supreme #iwantApony

Alright, I am in the middle of a Bahamas cruise and way too much alcohol so I guess I rattled some cages with my “right wing” comment. I am way too lit to even try and have a normal conversation and the ball and chain is chewing my tail for even being on the “Net”. If the old cronies can’t figure out that it is best to seed the tourney then there is no hope going forward to have a good tournament. Seeing the best 2 teams playing in the first round is ludicrous. When I sober up in a few days, I will send BTF a PM and tell him where my right wing comment came from. At this point, I ain’t sure…🍺🍺🍺

Those dang extremist right wingers!!!!! 😆

The majority of high school AD’s do not have quality or good high school football programs. For those ADs at those schools, it was an easy no brainer vote to turn it down. They prefer the random draw because they do not want to get stuck playing the best seeds and teams each and every year. It’s not right, it’ll be very difficult to ever get past this ancient random draw rule.

PM me. Educate me on the IHSAA having a right wing extremist attitude. I too was surprised that 79% of AD's voted against. I would have guessed closer to 50/50. But if we really dig deep, 79% of the programs probably know they're not making a run to state anyway. So maybe the blind draw is a better opportunity for those schools to advance as far as they can.

The combo of Ryan Poles as GM and Kevin Warren as President of the Bears have drafted the same amount of QB's for the Bears as you and I have: ZERO. Poles was promoted within the Kansas City Chief's organization everytime a new GM was brought in. Warren built the Vikings new stadium before running the Big Ten. I have faith in both of them that they are nothing like the old regime (aka. CPA Ted Phillips and whichever McCaskey son you want to name)

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/22/indiana-high-school-football-ifca-proposal-to-seed-class-6a-fails-to-pass-athletic-directors-vote/73065072007/ Bummer. The mostly boomers running the IHSAA hate change.

Really good point. Also, it's weird to be used as a prop for PR as a high schooler and the guys aren't exactly bouncing off the walls listening to the strength coach. @BLACKGOLD2007 I share a bit of the sentiment in that I don't care for handling our business through this type of contrived PR stunt––I have to believe this is Thacker's work. I'd expect a high school's PR misstep wouldn't be enough to affect your optimism given the number of your thoughtful and intelligent contributions to this board.

greener pastures not a longer season i just want to cram 10 extra games into the season we already have is that to much to ask for the hell is this auto merging my responses im trying to farm reputation here

What problem are you trying to solve here? Is Lutheran walking around claiming they’d take down Ben Davis? Id assume all reasonable people can make a distinction between being the best in the state among peers. If your goal is semantics you need to add ‘high school’ to your state champion tag, otherwise Notre Dame might end up having a beef with Ben Davis.

Great perspective here. Each class is "weighed" based on their enrollment. Instead of playing the "what if" game that @BTF mentions, lets celebrate accomplishments. To get to a state championship in each class is a feat, so diminishing the accomplishments of a 1A school over a 6A school doesn't accomplish much.

In every school below 4A this is likely fact. Carmel has theirs made by skilled craftsmen from Italy.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day and I’ll say it right to your face