BDGiant93 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Ben Davis and Carmel renew their rivalry again on Friday night at 7:00 pm from Giant Stadium. The Greyhounds lead the series, 25-24 after winning the last two games in the series to take their first lead since 1995. The series has been tied eight different times since then. It's just remarkable how close this series has been since the late 1990's. Research done by Jim Pich and yours truly on this one. Greyhounds lead series 25-24 1958-59 Giants 19-6 (BD) 1959-60 Giants 20-19 (Carmel) 1977-78 Giants 24-7 (North Central) (Sectional) 1981-82 Greyhounds 28-0 (BD) 1982-83 Greyhounds 21-6 (Carmel) 1983-84 Greyhounds 7-0 (BD) 1984-85 Greyhounds 28-21 (Carmel) 1985-86 Greyhounds 19-14 (BD) 1986-87 Greyhounds 31-14 (Carmel) 1987-88 Greyhounds 35-20 (BD) 1988-89 Giants 36-0 (Carmel) 1989-90 Greyhounds 35-20 (BD) 1989-90 Greyhounds 14-10 (Carmel) (Sectional) 1990-91 Giants 30-7 (Carmel) 1991-92 Giants 56-28 (BD) 1992-93 Giants 48-0 (Carmel) 1993-94 Greyhounds 13-12 (BD) 1994-95 Giants 41-33 (Carmel) 1995-96 Giants 15-10 (BD) 1996-97 Giants 29-15 (Carmel) 1997-98 Giants 38-11 (BD) 1998-99 Greyhounds 14-3 (Carmel) 1999-00 Giants 49-0 (BD) 2000-01 Greyhounds 21-14 (Carmel) 2001-02 Giants 38-3 (BD) 2002-03 Giants 31-7 (Carmel) 2003-04 Giants 27-11 (BD) 2004-05 Giants 18-8 (Carmel) 2005-06 Greyhounds 17-14 (BD) 2006-07 Greyhounds 20-7 (Carmel) 2007-08 Giants 28-27 (BD) 2008-09 Giants 24-17 (Carmel) 2009-10 Greyhounds 21-7 (BD) 2010-11 Greyhounds 35-7 (Carmel) 2011-12 Greyhounds 20-10 (BD) 2011-12 Greyhounds 11-9 (BD) (Regional) 2012-13 Giants 13-7 (Carmel) 2013-14 Giants 28-24 (BD) 2014-15 Greyhounds 37-14 (Carmel) 2014-15 Giants 42-24 (Lucas Oil Stadium) (State) 2015-16 Greyhounds 35-21 (BD) 2016-17 Greyhounds 40-36 (Carmel) 2017-18 Giants 28-10 (BD) 2018-19 Greyhounds 21-7 (Carmel) 2019-20 Giants 27-14 (BD) 2020-21 Greyhounds 31-9 (Carmel) 2020-21 Giants 27-21 (BD) (Regional) 2021-22 Greyhounds 35-21 (BD) 2022-23 Greyhounds 21-14 (Carmel) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKGOLD2007 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Go Giants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Some real "shoot outs" on that list...sorry I had to... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhpatriot04 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Sagarin's Predictor: Ben Davis (100.17) is a 24-point favorite vs. Carmel (78.65) and has about a 86.26% chance of winning (2.42-point home-field advantage). Last updated: 2023 September 23 Saturday 21:56:28.311 Central Standard Time = GMT/UTC-06:00 http://predictor.gridirondigest.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDGiant93 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said: Sagarin's Predictor: Ben Davis (100.17) is a 24-point favorite vs. Carmel (78.65) and has about a 86.26% chance of winning (2.42-point home-field advantage). Last updated: 2023 September 23 Saturday 21:56:28.311 Central Standard Time = GMT/UTC-06:00 http://predictor.gridirondigest.net This series often favors the underdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Thanks for the reminder of when Carmel used to be good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDGiant93 Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Grover said: Thanks for the reminder of when Carmel used to be good. 🥶Cold!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Grover said: Thanks for the reminder of when Carmel used to be good. Still 39-15 over the last 4+ years including 2023 (Ben Davis is 33-22 over that same time period)...just stop. Edited September 26, 2023 by temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, temptation said: just stop. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, Grover said: No You've gotta let it go. They are ducking you. Chiming in on this thread means they are in your head. You've won three in a row...be happy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 21 hours ago, temptation said: You've gotta let it go. They are ducking you. Chiming in on this thread means they are in your head. You've won three in a row...be happy. I gotta admit....I am a little confused. You have articulated over and over your thoughts about Carmel refusing to play CG and motives behind it. You have also targeted other schools repeatedly with the same message. But that is ok? Couldn't I use the same logic you are voicing above to you? If you feel compelled to step into the hall monitor role to challenge the posts of others, perhaps first take your own medicine......just sayin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: I gotta admit....I am a little confused. You have articulated over and over your thoughts about Carmel refusing to play CG and motives behind it. You have also targeted other schools repeatedly with the same message. But that is ok? Couldn't I use the same logic you are voicing above to you? If you feel compelled to step into the hall monitor role to challenge the posts of others, perhaps first take your own medicine......just sayin' Yep. Don't have a dog (pun intended) in the fight. I am able to view things from an unbiased perspective...unlike you and @Grover. CG is light years ahead of Carmel right now...wolves should not worry themselves with the opinions of sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, temptation said: Yep. Don't have a dog (pun intended) in the fight. I am able to view things from an unbiased perspective...unlike you and @Grover. Have an opinion if "neutral", but remain quiet if not. That makes for one fun and interesting forum. BTW, just so we are clear. I didn't make any comments. Just trying to understand your logic. Keep firing away @Grover We all know you have way more GID seniority than the self-appointed "rulemaker"!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: Have an opinion if "neutral", but remain quiet if not. That makes for one fun and interesting forum. BTW, just so we are clear. I didn't make any comments. Just trying to understand your logic. Keep firing away @Grover We all know you have way more GID seniority than the self-appointed "rulemaker"!! Not a rule maker by any means but so many folks get their panties in a wad because I describe myself as an “unbiased official.” The reason I do so is because I have absolutely no allegiance to any IHSAA member school including the one which I attended and the one who sends me bi-weekly direct deposits. Most “fans” on here have loyalty to a particular program in one way or another and the fact that I don’t, combined with my brash nature and the fact that I don’t care about folks’ feelings, rubs people the wrong way. Also, his “opinion” sucked. Even you have to admit that. It was a lazy, childish middle school lunch room style jab based in no evidence. Carmel is “good.” Center Grove is GREAT. Comes across as weak on his part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Stay in your lane child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Riprock Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, temptation said: Most “fans” on here have loyalty to a particular program in one way or another and the fact that I don’t, combined with my brash nature and the fact that I don’t care about folks’ feelings, rubs people the wrong way. not really the main reasons, but you keep on truckin' "unbiased official"....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: not really the main reasons, but you keep on truckin' "unbiased official"....... Please go on…let it all out. How did I hurt you? First therapy session is on me. Edited September 27, 2023 by temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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