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  1. IHSAA calls it "unique," which is laughable. There's a reason only one state does it this way, because it's really kind of stupid. If the Brownsburg/Ben Davis game didn't open eyes, than nothing will. What would Texas, California, Georgia, or Ohio say if they were told, "by the way, the two best teams in the state are going to meet in the first round." They'd declare lunacy. Would these same people who voted against seeding vote for a blind draw for the college football playoff? We all know the answer to that. Kudos to Bob Gaddis for his politically correct response.
    5 points
  2. The GID is clearly your best avenue for addressing your concerns.
    4 points
  3. I believe this is the “equity” I am always hearing about modern education. Punish the high end students/programs to cater to the low performing ones. Pretty soon we are going to have a “redistribution” of accomplishments and Brownsburg is going to have to forfeit 3 of their wins and give them to Pike so that no one’s feelings get hurt and everyone can tout their “accomplishments.”
    3 points
  4. If anyone hasn't donated yet, please do. You can't tell me this stuff isn't worth the price of admission.
    3 points
  5. I dont think you been to an Applebee's lately....🤣
    3 points
  6. Man, I despise politics with a passion, but the right wing, extremist, attitude of the IHSAA is very troubling and reeks of the good old boy network. How many out of touch old fools does it take to use just a tad bit of common sense and seed a tournament?
    3 points
  7. The Brownsburg and Ben Davis game of 2023 (if there already wasn't a better example) SHOULD have been the eye opener. Unless you're living under a rock (which apparently some of the powers that be are doing). Bob's a great guy and I'm glad I (along with all of you) have the reading ability to know what Bob really means/ wants to say here. Lol
    3 points
  8. That game needs to be protested by the Catholic Church or something. A portal to Hell may open on the 50 yard line when two teams of Red Devils take the field.
    2 points
  9. Is a Major Sports Gambling Scandal Inevitable? Yes. Oddly enough I just shared this with some friends yesterday. https://www.facebook.com/reel/337071562713780?fs=e&s=cl&mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
    2 points
  10. oh yeah...when I am filing my taxes each year, I fixate on that local tax....that one's the killer!!!! Seriously, my beef with taxes is the feds....I appreciate not paying additional taxes across the board and not a fan of rising property tax...but the vast majority of my tax dollars isn't consumed at the local level.
    2 points
  11. "Unique," lol. "The blind draw gives teams with poor records a chance to play somebody they could possibly beat in the first round. " Didn't that ship leave the port when Team A spent more time weight training in the off-season than Team B? I know this for certain even though I'm over 100 miles away. Those Brownsburg seniors busted their tails for four years for their shot at the state title. This wonderful idea the IHSAA came up with (something 49 other states scratch their heads at), sent those kids packing after one game. Shame on the IHSAA.
    2 points
  12. Mr. Neddenriep from the Indianapolis Star's take: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/24/indiana-high-school-football-coaches-dont-get-wish-on-tournament-seeding-ifca-proposal-ihsaa/73085086007/
    2 points
  13. Here I'll lube em up for u Right wingers could see the whole picture much clearer if they could ever take their eyes off their sisters Left wingers are a bunch of hypocritical closet racists that will believe any sob story you tell them Libertarians stand for nothing, and despite all their yapping accomplish much of the same The only politician out there who tells it like it is is vermin supreme #iwantApony
    2 points
  14. Alright, I am in the middle of a Bahamas cruise and way too much alcohol so I guess I rattled some cages with my “right wing” comment. I am way too lit to even try and have a normal conversation and the ball and chain is chewing my tail for even being on the “Net”. If the old cronies can’t figure out that it is best to seed the tourney then there is no hope going forward to have a good tournament. Seeing the best 2 teams playing in the first round is ludicrous. When I sober up in a few days, I will send BTF a PM and tell him where my right wing comment came from. At this point, I ain’t sure…🍺🍺🍺
    2 points
  15. The majority of high school AD’s do not have quality or good high school football programs. For those ADs at those schools, it was an easy no brainer vote to turn it down. They prefer the random draw because they do not want to get stuck playing the best seeds and teams each and every year. It’s not right, it’ll be very difficult to ever get past this ancient random draw rule.
    2 points
  16. Exactly. There’s the problem. Schools vote their individual interests. No one is interested in what’s best for Indiana high school football.
    2 points
  17. PM me. Educate me on the IHSAA having a right wing extremist attitude. I too was surprised that 79% of AD's voted against. I would have guessed closer to 50/50. But if we really dig deep, 79% of the programs probably know they're not making a run to state anyway. So maybe the blind draw is a better opportunity for those schools to advance as far as they can.
    2 points
  18. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/22/indiana-high-school-football-ifca-proposal-to-seed-class-6a-fails-to-pass-athletic-directors-vote/73065072007/ Bummer. The mostly boomers running the IHSAA hate change.
    2 points
  19. Really good point. Also, it's weird to be used as a prop for PR as a high schooler and the guys aren't exactly bouncing off the walls listening to the strength coach. @BLACKGOLD2007 I share a bit of the sentiment in that I don't care for handling our business through this type of contrived PR stunt––I have to believe this is Thacker's work. I'd expect a high school's PR misstep wouldn't be enough to affect your optimism given the number of your thoughtful and intelligent contributions to this board.
    2 points
  20. That, also, is totally inaccurate.
    1 point
  21. Totally inaccurate.
    1 point
  22. If you saw the behavior of their fans and their coaches you’d understand why. This goes back to their time in the GSSC.
    1 point
  23. Never said he wasn't a good leader. Yeah...his coaches cheated...that's on them, not him. Way not to disappoint with the expected jacka$$ery comments.....
    1 point
  24. "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria." - Peter Venkman
    1 point
  25. Cool. Talk band with the other nerds somewhere else.
    1 point
  26. I believe you can catch him on ESPN playing in the G-League. Hopefully he saved enough for the trip to Europe.
    1 point
  27. Way back during my high school days Maconaquah had a home & away series with scheduled with Madison. It was a Saturday afternoon game IIRC. The Braves were the first to make the trip down south, and the team got to stop at a steakhouse for dinner on their way back home. Unfortunately the next year Madison canceled their reciprocal trip to Bunker Hill. 😞
    1 point
  28. The genie’s outta the bottle was on this deal. As college sports become more pro minor leagues, just plays into the culture. The kind of money being waved around man….and I just don’t see the morality or ethics out there anymore.
    1 point
  29. https://theathletic.com/5372615/2024/03/27/ncaa-president-charlie-baker-prop-betting/ NCAA president Charlie Baker wants ban on prop bets in college sports By David Ubben 5h ago NCAA president Charlie Baker wants a ban on prop bets in college sports, he said in a statement released Wednesday. “The NCAA is drawing the line on sports betting to protect student-athletes and to protect the integrity of the game – issues across the country these last several days show there is more work to be done,” Baker said. Prop bets allow fans to bet on how many points or rebounds a basketball player might have, or yards or touchdowns a football player might have, instead of or in conjunction with a game’s outcome or spread. Fans can bet on the outcomes of games but in many of the 38 states where sports betting is legal, prop bets are not allowed in college sports. Baker wants that reach extended to all states. “This week we will be contacting officials across the country in states that allow these bets and ask them to join Ohio, Vermont, Maryland and many others and remove college prop bets from all betting markets,” Baker said. Some players have been subject to individualized harassment if their play resulted in a prop bet going against bettors, regardless of the outcome of the game. Baker has previously explored legislation that would create a “prohibited bettors list” of people who were known to harass players and coaches. Baker, who played basketball at Harvard, has opposed prop bets in college sports since taking over as president last March. “I think prop betting in some respects is one of the parts I worry about the most,” Baker told CBS News in November. On Monday, the NBA also announced that Toronto Raptors center Jontay Porter was under investigation by the league for betting irregularities surrounding prop bets that involved Porter. In two separate games, he left the game early with injuries, allowing bettors to cash in on multiple prop bets that made them the most profitable for bettors on that day, according to a media release from DraftKings. Loyola Maryland coach Tavaras Hardy resigned earlier this month after Loyola said it had removed a person from the program after it became aware of a gambling violation. The Associated Press reported that Hardy was not the person removed from the program for the gambling violation. U.S. Integrity, a gambling watchdog group employed by many sports leagues and teams, also flagged unusual betting patterns surrounding a pair of Temple University basketball games earlier this year. That group flagged the activity surrounding Alabama baseball coach Brad Bohannon last year when Bohannon was fired for giving an associate inside information on his lineup that he used to attempt to place bets on Alabama baseball.
    1 point
  30. As gambling becomes more prevalent, it’s only a matter of time before there’s a big scandal. All the gambling apps advertise on sports tv, as I see it the various sports governing bodies are OK with it, as long as there’s money coming in.
    1 point
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  32. I think we agree it was an error for Penn to make their public announcement this way. It always going to be connected to and viewed alongside the masterful production for Notre Dame football by Fighting Irish Media after Freeman was hired with no chance of capturing any of that energy––let alone editing. My contention is that the players' reactions tell us nothing about their willingness to play for Pete. The answer to that question will come on Friday nights.
    1 point
  33. When Indiana was relevant their roster was dominated by Indiana kids. Look at the IU roster today and look at Purdue’s. Schools that have sustained success have rosters full of local kids. Am I saying don’t go to Illinois to get Isaiah Thomas or Eric Anderson, absolutely not, but geez don’t let Calbert Cheany or Kent Benson go someplace else!
    1 point
  34. Joe traveled over the Francis Scott Key Bridge “many times by car AND by TRAIN.” Spoiler alert: It’s an automobile only bridge.
    1 point
  35. Never said that at all....just stating that I'm far more concerned about the size of my federal taxes than I am of my local tax. Far more....
    1 point
  36. I'm shocked he made the thread about him. 🤪 No one cares what taxes you have to pay lol
    1 point
  37. Your first sentence leads one way and your second sentence leads the other. You must be an independent. Seriously. I do think there's a correlation between taxes and quality of life. Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. But I'll never skimp when it comes to our high schools. Professional sports take take a hike.
    1 point
  38. It's fun to watch as a fan, but the best team doesn't always win in that scenario. I'll take the turf. As a taxpayer, I'm all for anything that improves the high school experience for young people. If that means the band gets to perform on a 1.5 million turf field instead of the mud, then I'm all in. The reason many people gripe about taxes is because it takes away from things like their $150 North Face jacket when they could buy an off brand for $40 that's probably just as good in quality. God forbid if you can't afford to go out and enjoy dinner for two for $100. Go to Applebee's instead. Sure it's less trendy and you're not going to impress your peers while they are out at St. Elmo's, but at least you'll have more money in your pocket for things that are a bit more important.
    1 point
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  40. I wouldn't put too much stock into their "reaction". I don't recall our reaction being all that different when Cory was announced as head coach. We had a pretty simple team meeting in LGI A. There was no dramatic reveal, no hugging and cheering, and Cory didn't spend any time trying to fire us up. We wanted Cory to be the guy, he told us he was going to be himself, it was a relief when the announcement came, and it was business as usual from there.
    1 point
  41. They need to get their swagger back. "We are Penn. We have 5 state titles. And we have the best record in all of Indiana spanning four decades. Come one come all." If they can do it at Center Grove, they sure as hell can do it at Penn.
    1 point
  42. Around 2 mil but that includes field, new track surface and lights. (baseball, softball & football)
    1 point
  43. I second that. Ten dollars to support your local athletic department is too much, but $120.00 is perfectly ok to support a bunch of guys you don't know from all over the United States who are highly over priced for the value they bring to the world. But that's just me.
    1 point
  44. I believe every public school board in the state must face voters every four years, so……I’m guessing they don’t really give a shit what you think Muda.
    1 point
  45. More wasted taxpayer dollars. And increased serious injury opportunities for the children playing on such a surface (this is well documented, I will not get into another discussion concerning this proven point again.) All so somebody doesn't have to mow the grass, paint some lines, and sometimes wash muddy uniforms.
    1 point
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