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thanks everyone

Thanks Irishman. So therein is my question regarding the case when R is hit early. Is it a rekick after a 5 yard penalty or would R get the ball at the spot of the foul? I assume rekick, just looking for certainty.

Bobref, I understand everything you wrote and have read the rule book. My question is the source of the material I quoted. I don't see that in the book, maybe I'm not interpreting something correctly. If you can expound, that'd be great. Here's my situation I want to be clear on. K1 onside kicks (slowly)from the 40. R1 runs forward and makes an attempt to recover the kick at K's 47 yard line. Assuming that no R initiates a block on any K player, K2 hits R1 before R1 contacts the ball and pushes R backwards to R's 48 yard line and K recovers the ball at A) K's 49 yard line B)R's 49 yard line. What's the call regarding any penalty or possession? My understanding of your remark is that there is either a penalty involved or R is awarded the ball somewhere. Thanks When in doubt Gopher2

Anyone else getting emails from ADs that the required NFHS coursework (Heat illness, tackling, cardiac arrest, etc.) they did in May no longer qualifies or is it just me? The email in May said my current certifications would expire June 10, 2022, so I did them in May. Now I just got notified that I have to redo all of them because the IHSAA changed the requirements while many of us had already taken care of this? Leaving a bad taste in my mouth right now.

Assistant Coach Jason McCalley, wife Kendra, and daughter Remi suffered the loss of their infant son and brother, Rowan, Sunday after a 3 month battle with heart issues. A Gofundme has been started to support the family through their medical bills and funeral services. https://www.gofundme.com/f/rowan-mccalley?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=p_cf share-flow-1&fbclid=IwAR2MrDNN_Q9cNiLQtg22YnXel_B9KihgR2v-5wfUealw7BI42MwPFA7N9CU Please pray for the McCalleys during their time of morning. #rowanstrong

I mostly agree with Coach May regarding the geography. But where I think the IHSAA could have fixed the mess actually starts in the northwest. Sectional 33 in the northwest, shouldn't have 7 teams If the sectional is going east to include Bremen and LaVille from Marshall County, why shouldn't it include Winamac from Pulaski Co., approximately the same distance, possibly closer. It should be 8 teams. It would seem that the 7 team sectional is most justified by the widest sectional area, which would be #39 as it has been traditionally. Pioneer now being placed back in 1A puts #34 at 7 teams-Winamac, so move Wabash to #34 and bump Bluffton from #36 to #35. You can now move Winchester to #36 in the north and now there are 31 teams in the north (with the bye in #34), 31 in the south. My south looks like Coach May's but with proposing Winchester going north, put a bye in either #37 or #38. Not sure how to do any better with the other teams. Brown County doesn't improve geographically by going to #37 or #38 and making #40 a 7 team sectional. With diesel at $5+ a gallon, let's not place a bigger burden on school transportation and athletic budgets. Elbridge Gerry wouldn't have been prouder with #39 as it now looks.

Yep, first down for whoever ends up with it. We blocked a punt years ago and slow DL tried to scoop and score except he got hawked and punting team recovered for a 30 yard loss and they got the first down. And it doesn't matter what down it was if there was a change of possession.

Thanks everyone.

I looked through the threads and couldn't find this question being asked previously. I apologize if I missed it. Fourth and goal. A-12 fumbles ball on the B two yard line into end zone. A-55 recovers in end zone. TD awarded. Correct or not. For some reason I thought I remembered the fourth down recovery rule being instituted in the 90s to prevent the offense from intentionally benefitting from this play, but that was a while back. Thanks.

Picking up on Irishman's comment, I grew up in the NLC. Warsaw (3A) could have gone 10-0 but playing all 2A schools kept them from ever getting to the playoffs in that old system. When they did try to play a 3A school it seemed like it was FW Snider or Penn and that never went well for them

That was a good game. Lapel's offense just seemed to struggle with penalties and D/D. THree times inside the 20 and no pts. Tipton had their running game going and there wasn't any answer for the short pass game. Lapel kicked squibbed their kickoffs a llot too, must not have wanted to kick deep. That gave Tipton the ball near midfield a lot. On to somewhere else next week.

Yeah, but I'm not sure my car can make it to those without overheating.

Pork on a stick it is. I've heard there's a good pizza place too. Got my camp chair packed. Hope my bladder can make it.

39 other games I can go to. Will this one be good or should I stay around Indy and see a 5A/6A game

They really slowed down the offense of powerhouse Eastbrook. If I come watch this game, can Lapel compete with them or will this be a blowout and I should go elsewhere?

So it seems as there is a grey area concerning the cutoff from when a legal onside kick would turn illegal. I From your shared video, what constitutes the difference between kick #2 (legal) when I'm estimating the ball rebounds to 4 feet after the first hop and kick #3 (illegal) when the ball rebounds to 8 feet. Is there a height off of the first bounce that officials would consider and say "that's illegal" vs "that's legal"? I totally understand the safety issue that a big hop would create just looking for clearer picture.

yep. Opponent moves on to next week's game. As the tournament progresses, if a winning team must forfeit from a prior week, the loser of the previous matchup does not replace it. Once you're done, you're done.

This issue happened at our school, but here's how the rule is enforced inequitably (is that the right word)? So kids get caught in contact tracing are sent home for 14 days. Our school said if you get sent home at 10 o'clock on Friday, then you come back at 10 o'clock on Friday in 2 weeks. Ok, no problem. But here's where this rule fails miserably if it's for athlete protection. Quarantine started Friday at 10 am, so quarantined football players are out that night's game, next week's and the next week's before they can get enough practices in to play. However, the tennis team has 6 matches over the same period: County tournament that Friday afternoon, following Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and following Tuesday and Friday. Football would miss 8 practices and 3 competitions, so they have to go to 4 practices before they can compete. Tennis has more meets scheduled and fewer practices (5 and they cancelled one...see where this going), so tennis player actually get's the benefit of missing fewer actual practices and tennis coach knows the rules so that by cancelling 1 practice, he keeps the number of practices missed by that player to 4 so he is immediately eligible to play on the Friday afternoon he returns, while a football player that missed the exact same number of quarantined days is not eligible for another week because his team had 8 practices and he needs 4 to become "eligible". In no way am I faulting the tennis coach, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

How are conferences deciding who plays in week 9 conference championships and other pairings if multiple teams miss games with Covid? Do you just go on W/L %age? Just curious. How would you make pairings for teams A 7-1 record, B 6-1 record and C 6-0. Team A lost to D but beat B. B lost to A and missed 1 game. C beat both A and B and missed 2 games. Or if 2 teams in same division finish 5-1 and didn't play each other. Who goes to the championship?

Thanks JustRules

Thanks Bobref.

Per rulebook ART. 9 . . . A lineman is any A player who is facing his opponent’s goal line with the line of his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and with his head or foot breaking an imaginary plane drawn parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the snapper when the ball is snapped.. From this picture it would appear the left guard and left tackle and the top receiver shown (another further receiver, not shown, is on LOS) have their bodies at the same yard line. and thus in the backfield I would interpret the "waist of the snapper" to esentially be the patch of white behind the snapper's upper left arm. Is the LG too deep to be considered a lineman?

Since some of us also coach a spring sport, how are your administrations and athletic departments preparing? The first competition dates for track and softball are March 23. Other than schools that are already shut down, are your schools setting any procedures for practice times/s or other issues. Cancelling any early season contests with specific opponents?

Coach Nowlin, please go into more detail if you have time. I've found that if we go live in drill work, when we go to team and just FIT UP, that our kids stop moving their feet on contact.

I'm an analytics guy too (teach math and stats). Let's say that over a ten play drive Team A ( focuses on big hits or turnovers) gets 2 plays for -5 yards on "big hits", has 5 average plays of +5 yards, has 2 plays where it gives up 2 missed tackles for a total of 20 yards, another play with a missed tackle on a 10 yard pass resulting in +25 yards. Team B focuses on sound tackling is on a 10 play drive and gets 1 play for -1 yards, 5 average plays of +5 yards, 2 plays of 8 yards, misses a tackle for a 10 yard gain, and allows one completion for 10 yards. Both teams have given up 60 yards in 10 plays. I get that both are giving up 6 yds/play, but which team is going to give you the best long term shot at winning the game?