DanteEstonia Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I’d set it at 3 for all sports outside of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, DanteEstonia said: I’d set it at 3 for all sports outside of football. The problem is one of optics. For this round of classifications, we are the smallest 4A school with around 900 total students. While our boys team pulled off a HUGE upset for the sectional title beating Homestead last year, it is not a common thing. Homestead has about 2,000 students. The Regional opponent was going to be Carmel before the cancellation hit. Even though it is a cut sport, the size of the talent pool does matter. To have a school of 900 competing against a school of over 5,000 looks off. Eliminate another class, and that number becomes more drastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, Irishman said: The problem is one of optics. For this round of classifications, we are the smallest 4A school with around 900 total students. While our boys team pulled off a HUGE upset for the sectional title beating Homestead last year, it is not a common thing. Homestead has about 2,000 students. The Regional opponent was going to be Carmel before the cancellation hit. Even though it is a cut sport, the size of the talent pool does matter. To have a school of 900 competing against a school of over 5,000 looks off. Eliminate another class, and that number becomes more drastic. I’ve coached football at a school that had 30 students per graduating class, so I’m familiar with the issue of a talent pool. However, where then should the cutoff be? Four classes? Five classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said: I’ve coached football at a school that had 30 students per graduating class, so I’m familiar with the issue of a talent pool. However, where then should the cutoff be? Four classes? Five classes? 4 seems to work well....I do know a couple of coaches associations are looking at proposing 3. There are small things we don’t think of. As far as baseball goes, 4 works well. Our coach has said the bigger the school, the more likely you have depth in pitching without having to rely on one or two guys who really are not pitchers. Track and Field is looking at 3 classes. Where some schools lose out in track is in field events. If they go to a large meet and teams have pole vaulters and others don’t, they miss out on even having a chance at the points that come from that. I believe Wrestling is looking at 3 classes as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 6 hours ago, DanteEstonia said: I’d set it at 3 for all sports outside of football. The optimal number of classes for Indiana High School basketball? One. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 12/25/2020 at 5:41 PM, Muda69 said: The optimal number of classes for Indiana High School basketball? One. Exactly. Play like a champion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 12/25/2020 at 6:41 PM, Muda69 said: The optimal number of classes for Indiana High School basketball? One. Thank travel ball and the big schools for where we are now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRCJunkie Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 What is the argument against 6 classes, just like football (obviously success factor schools might differ)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 9 hours ago, TRCJunkie said: What is the argument against 6 classes, just like football (obviously success factor schools might differ)? Too few schools competing for a State title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRCJunkie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 11 hours ago, DanteEstonia said: Too few schools competing for a State title. But there are more total schools across that play basketball than football? I just don't understand why the argument is acceptable for one sport vs the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, TRCJunkie said: But there are more total schools across that play basketball than football? I just don't understand why the argument is acceptable for one sport vs the other. I am in agreement with both of these points; things are worse in Nevada, where I teach and live. I would argue having 3/4 classes in baseball, basketball, etc is optimal in Indiana because those sports have roster limits and a wider set of State champions. I think 6 classes (I would disperse the classes a bit differently) is optimal for football in Indiana because of the smaller pool of tournament champions and the ability to roster an unlimited number of kids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basementbias Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I'll say probably 5, though with more schools playing basketball than football, I could see 6 depending on how it was broke down. I think 4 is working ok, but not the best. I think the issue lies within 2A & 3A as well as those small 4A schools. There are a lot of 1A football schools that are 2A basketball schools competing with truly 2A football to almost 3A football schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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