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As far as Mississinewa leaving the CIC I don't think it will happen anytime soon.  Yes, they are going to continue to be 1-2 in the Conference.  Using the analogy of Mississinewa beats up on 2A Teams, what about Eastbrook?  Eastbrook beats up on everybody in the conference year in and year out.  Mississinewa has had the most success against them in recent years.  Does playing in a weak CIC help Eastbrook in the State Tournament?  Yes, they made it to the State Finals last year.  It seems they do well in Sectionals but once they hit Regionals they have struggled.  This year Eastbrook has a very difficult Sectional to play in.  Mississinewa's Sectional is pretty even and should be interesting.  If Eastbrook makes it back to the State Finals this year would they be forced to move up to 3A on the next re-alignment due to success factor?  

Now as far as Mississinewa and Eastbrook leaving the CIC.  Could it happen?  Yes but only under the right circumstances.  One option to think about is forming a new Conference with Mississinewa, Eastbrook, and Marion being the first 3 schools.  Then maybe add Yorktown, Delta, and Norwell to make a 6 team Conference to start.  But it is doubtful that Yorktown, Delta, and Norwell would consider leaving.  

 

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Ouuuuuuch! Frankton loses 69-0. APA  smiling big time! Question is ....did the rats leave starters in to pad stats?

Like Frankton Coach likes to do. Did I say that out loud? Eagles had the lead vs Blackford with 3 minutes to go and wanted to pad QB stats so they kept throwing the ball with the lead mind you, incompletions killed the clock giving the Bruins enough time to score the go head TD. The Eagles would fumble the ball at the goal line with minimal time on the clock to secure the bruin win. 

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Elwood gets 1st win and I called it!!!

Oak hill wins. MG only team without a win but elwood is still on the schedule. So you're saying they have a chance? Nope!

Eastbrook wins. Duh! Line em up and the panthers will knock them down!!

Rats hang 69 on the Eagles.  Obviously speed and size to much for Eagles.  

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Well Eastbrook showed they are pretty solid. Pass defense is suspect. Alex has some good young athletes future is bright. Alex offense play calling is horendous. This game was all about coaching and kids morale.

Mississinewa has a solid team with consistent talent in each grade. Frankton quit just like i thought they would. Frankton is in trouble next few years talent wise.

Congrats to Elwood! For what they have gone through with kids quitting. Nice win. What does this say about blackford though wow! Elwood enjoy your talent is gone soon.

Oak hill and madison grant. Not much to say here. Oak hill will recover. Madison grant is in trouble. Nothing coming up that will chang this pattern.

 

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3 hours ago, wcfields said:

Well Eastbrook showed they are pretty solid. Alex offense play calling is horendous. This game was all about coaching and kids morale.

 

 

Eastbrook showed they are solid in week 1, not for the first time against Alex.

How would you have called the offense differently for Alex?

So your saying that the two teams have similar talent, but the difference was the coaching and players feelings?

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Some much to respond to!!!! I love it!  Now let's get this kind of stuff going on a Wednesday not a Friday/Saturday!!

 

I will concede that Ole Miss is more of a large 3A instead of a 4A team since they have not been a 4A for very long.  I also see your points as to why they belong in the CIC.  I see both sides.  My problem is reading post that say the PROGRAM is really taking off.  You can't be the biggest school in a horrible conference, win, and say that is program success to me.  That is like putting a 5th grader, who is not good enough to play 5th grade basketball, on a 3rd grade league team and watch him dominate followed by talking about how good he is (the sick part is I saw this happen last year too)!! Eastbrook is different to me because they are more CIC school size. If Ole Miss wants respect, find a respectable 3A/4A type conference and win there.  

Score last night: Good Lordy with all the defensive specialist in the CIC how in the world do we have a  206-46 combined scores?  206????? Good for Elwood.  I knew they had the athletes to put those numbers up.  I just didn't have the faith of the staff to bring that out of them.  No surprise with Eastbrook.   Oak Hill's win might have given them some momentum for the next 2 weeks. I thought Frankton would fight a little harder but they also had a rough week so I am not all that surprised unfortunately. 

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12 hours ago, Chief Flyin BearCat in Sox said:

1 not including this season. The rats had success......till the playoffs.  Same will happen this year. 2nd verse same as the 1st Randy the Rat I am I am.....

They look very successful till they play teams their size...... or EB a 2A school that smacked them around.

Not their fault they're in 4A........but they could deter kids from Marion from coming that way. I don't want to see them leave the conference either and it's not their fault that the conference is SO WEAK.  

Thanks. Yeah, a 4 point loss to #2 team in 4A proves Ole Miss can't hang with 4A teams. 

Historically,  I will agree that they have struggled in post-season against top 4A and 3A teams. One more game and we'll see how things shake out for all CIC teams in the tourney.  

IMO, Eastbrook could compete in 4A, definitely 3A. It's  amusing you reference losing to Eastbrook, like it is a huge slap in the face to a 4A school.  

There are countless larger RANKED schools that have lost to smaller class RANKED (in this case #1) schools in the history of Indiana football. That comment is out the window.

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3 hours ago, wcfields said:

Well Eastbrook showed they are pretty solid. Pass defense is suspect. Alex has some good young athletes future is bright. Alex offense play calling is horendous. This game was all about coaching and kids morale.

And here you have the most ignorant post of the year!!!! Seriously?? You put this lose of coaching and kids morale?  Eastbrook has proven to be the real deal all year.  Alex had no chance to begin with.  Their 6-1 record had to do with playing the horroble teams early and playing Blackford after they sustained some injuries.  Don't let the 6-2 record make you think Alex is all that good.  Next week will be just as bad.  I would pick the Eastbrook staff over the Alex staff every game but play calling and coaching did not affect this outcome.  Eastbrook is just much more talented right now.  

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9 hours ago, Chief Flyin BearCat in Sox said:

Ouuuuuuch! Frankton loses 69-0. APA  smiling big time! Question is ....did the rats leave starters in to pad stats?

Like Frankton Coach likes to do. Did I say that out loud? Eagles had the lead vs Blackford with 3 minutes to go and wanted to pad QB stats so they kept throwing the ball with the lead mind you, incompletions killed the clock giving the Bruins enough time to score the go head TD. The Eagles would fumble the ball at the goal line with minimal time on the clock to secure the bruin win. 

Looked to me like Coach Funk pulled them out in the 3rd, but Frankton didnt follow suit. Looked like Frankton qb got hurt at one point in the 3rd or early 4th. Hope he's ok. 

I didnt see the game live,  so I'm not certain how accurate my post is. 

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16 minutes ago, Bittergymteacher said:

And here you have the most ignorant post of the year!!!! Seriously?? You put this lose of coaching and kids morale?  Eastbrook has proven to be the real deal all year.  Alex had no chance to begin with.  Their 6-1 record had to do with playing the horroble teams early and playing Blackford after they sustained some injuries.  Don't let the 6-2 record make you think Alex is all that good.  Next week will be just as bad.  I would pick the Eastbrook staff over the Alex staff every game but play calling and coaching did not affect this outcome.  Eastbrook is just much more talented right now.  

bitter i went to the game and i agree with you about Alex's record. I would also take Eastbrook or Mississinewa coaching staff all day over Alex's there is also a few others. 

What i was saying about the play calling is it was very vanilla on offense eastbrook knew what was coming before it was called. Alex's best athlete's accept the rb who scored their only touch down on a kick return are young they will continue to improve untill the fresh/soph class graduate.

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3 hours ago, RiverRat99 said:

Looked to me like Coach Funk pulled them out in the 3rd, but Frankton didnt follow suit. Looked like Frankton qb got hurt at one point in the 3rd or early 4th. Hope he's ok. 

I didnt see the game live,  so I'm not certain how accurate my post is. 

Coach Funk is a stand up guy, not known for pouring it on. That's Frankton's M.O leave kids in when they don't need to be in there. Hope their QB is ok and if not thats on the coach not pulling him.

3 hours ago, RiverRat99 said:

Thanks. Yeah, a 4 point loss to #2 team in 4A proves Ole Miss can't hang with 4A teams. 

Historically,  I will agree that they have struggled in post-season against top 4A and 3A teams. One more game and we'll see how things shake out for all CIC teams in the tourney.  

IMO, Eastbrook could compete in 4A, definitely 3A. It's  amusing you reference losing to Eastbrook, like it is a huge slap in the face to a 4A school.  

There are countless larger RANKED schools that have lost to smaller class RANKED (in this case #1) schools in the history of Indiana football. That comment is out the window.

But a school of Mississinewa's size and athletic ability should be able to compete with the best in 2A or even 3A. 

Mississenwa needs to close their enrollment window and get their numbers down so they can play at 3A where they belong and would have success at

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3 hours ago, Blitzkrieg said:

Eastbrook showed they are solid in week 1, not for the first time against Alex.

How would you have called the offense differently for Alex?

So your saying that the two teams have similar talent, but the difference was the coaching and players feelings?

I felt like being there that Alexandria moved the ball real well with a mix of short and long passes on first and second set. Their line is slow and non athletic. Couldnt run the ball very well. once they where down two scores the play calling was slants,flats and runs. Have to have variety against eastbrook. The kids seemed to come in flat for the game and not very excited.

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I was at the game and Mississinewa did not pass the ball after the 2nd quarter. Also pulled there starters half way through the 3rd quarter. Coach Funk has done this same thing in all but three games this year.

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While i have not watched everyone in the conference i have to believe that McCoin is the top QB and Skeens , Campbell, and Barajas are the top position players in conference. Am i correct or who am i leaving off of here?

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4 hours ago, midway monster said:

While i have not watched everyone in the conference i have to believe that McCoin is the top QB and Skeens , Campbell, and Barajas are the top position players in conference. Am i correct or who am i leaving off of here?

McGuire is tough along with others. I'd say Berkbile, Metz, Kinder are all tough too. Each team has some solid guys. The folks you reference have an advantage due to the teamates around them. Eastbrook has others as well, but they all share the workload.

Im just going off of hudl, Maxpreps, and news articles.  Havent seen any games live.

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Wilson is one of the top athletes in the conference. Only problem is, he usually has hardly enough time to get his fingers on the laces before he has 2 or 3 defenders in his face. Not much you can do at that point but try to run for your life.

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On ‎10‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 7:53 AM, Bittergymteacher said:

This thread has gotten soft!  No one is getting their feelings hurt?  No one is disagreeing with each other?  No one is making up false acquisitions in order to make things better than what they are?  Come on!!!!  I'm not sure I have read one "I heard" comment all year!!! Give me something to work with here.  My bitterness is starting to just be bitter over the lack of bitterness.   Coachjuntionboy, I need you back!  I used to be able to count on Chief Flyin BearCat in Sox making mistakes on his post but I think he has even gotten a little softer in 2017.  Halfbackpass.......nothing to throw at Frankton anymore?  Even they guy who was convinced there was a secret coach on here has disappeared???  WAIT A MINUTE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankton4life is a military guy from Kansas..... was there a mission to dis-mantel  RUNTHEBALLCOACH??????  Are the Russians to blame for a boring CIC?  

 

Good luck to all tonight and make sure you all yell "Holding" at least 5 times tonight.   Officials LOVE that!!!

 

We are investigating whether the Russians are to blame for boredom in CIC football.  Is the last name Adamson of Russian origin???  MTF.  I think RUNTHEBALLCOACH gave up on the GID after he came to the conclusion that I wasn't actually a football coach.  This thread really took off over the weekend, I was too busy enjoying the greatest sports weekend of the year, (maybe aside from March Madness' 1st weekend) playoff MLB, conference rivalry games in the NCAAF, and vice presidents leaving NFL games early.  Yes FHS deserves a 69-0 drubbing from Ole Miss after running up score against pulse-less APA earlier in the year, if that's payback perhaps we can move on from what happened in week 1.  : )  Go Eagles, beat OH and we should finish season better than 500 for the first time since 2003. 

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In order to keep this thread rolling, here's what the CIC needs to do ASAP:  Bring Lapel into the conference AND Jay County, make it a 10 team conference.  Jay County currently makes team number 7 in the Allen County Conference.  7 is not a good number for any conference and at least there's another 4A team in the CIC already.  Lapel needs a home and they're a solid 2A school in all sports.  The only other option that makes sense geographically is maybe Eastern (Greentown) coming over to the CIC with Lapel.  Then we could split CIC football into 2 divisions and have miniature bowl games at the end of the season.  North= Ole Miss, OH, Eastbrook, Blackford, Jay County.  South= Frankton, Elwood, Lapel, MG, Alex.  Since the CIC masterminds get all of their ideas off of the GID anyways, what do you guys think?

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Would Lapel even want to join the CIC? Top notch facilities and community that butts up to the booming Hamilton Town Center area. They might have outgrown us blue collar folk. 

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I have heard that the cic has turned them down due to how they (lapel) handled it years back when they where solely chasing basketball. Now that they want in I heard the cic just isn't sure.

It would be better for the cic (south) travel but conference is about the best as of now with travel anyways.

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