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Is it common around the state, that the head football coach and girls and boys basketball coaching stipends are not included in bargaining?

 

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getting some good feedback via text and pms.  feel free if that is better/easier.

so far some say fb is outside of bargaining.

so far some say their g/b hoops is in bargaining.

 

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15 minutes ago, Coach Ellenwood said:

Is it common around the state, that the head football coach and girls and boys basketball coaching stipends are not included in bargaining?

IDK about Indiana, but CCSD it's $22/hr.

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Just now, DanteEstonia said:

IDK about Indiana, but CCSD it's $22/hr.

for just those 3 positions?  what about the "other" sports?  if you know.

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15 minutes ago, Coach Ellenwood said:

Is it common around the state, that the head football coach and girls and boys basketball coaching stipends are not included in bargaining?

 

Yes, it is very common. Probably should be the rule rather then the exception.

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Just now, Patch33 said:

Yes, it is very common. Probably should be the rule rather then the exception.

Thanks Patch.  Why would you say rule/exception? 

Good stuff folks.

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Here it is Football/ Volleyball in the fall and Boys and girls basketball in the winter.  Spring sports get nothing... lol

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3 minutes ago, Coach Ellenwood said:

for just those 3 positions?  what about the "other" sports?  if you know.

All coaches with contracts and teaching licenses are paid $22/hr. If it's individuals with sub licenses it's $15.28/hr.

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It allows for these coaches to actually get a stipend that makes sense. Folks in the public don't realize most of those stipends amout to about 25 cents an hour (less in years where you advance farther).   Columbus has a great deal in which they get their normal stipend for the normal season and then get bonus money for each play off game they win. For example in football: 10 games under contract, then another 1/10 for each game past the 1st sectional game.  

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2 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

All coaches with contracts and teaching licenses are paid $22/hr. If it's individuals with sub licenses it's $15.28/hr.

Who logs the time?  Is it just time spent at practices?  

Man if I got paid $22 an hour for everything I did football wise, heck even $5 an hour if I was allowed to count Film, meetings, Staff meetings, at home film, JV games, evaluating Middle and Freshman games, post Friday night games where I am downloading film, stats, etc.     I would blow out my current stipend which is VERY GOOD.   

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Just now, Coach Nowlin said:

Who logs the time?  Is it just time spent at practices?   

1. Office manager logs the time. 

2. It's time for practices and games, as well as travel time with the team. Eg. a coach goes from Chaparral HS to Spring Creek HS in Elko. The clock is running for the trip. Idk if coaches also get own-car mileage if scouting a game. 

4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Man if I got paid $22 an hour for everything I did football wise, heck even $5 an hour if I was allowed to count Film, meetings, Staff meetings, at home film, JV games, evaluating Middle and Freshman games, post Friday night games where I am downloading film, stats, etc.     I would blow out my current stipend which is VERY GOOD.   

Teachers in CCSD live to complain about their pay, but many don't know how well they are compensated. 

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11 minutes ago, Patch33 said:

Here it is Football/ Volleyball in the fall and Boys and girls basketball in the winter.  Spring sports get nothing... lol

Cool.  Looks like Title IX is covered too.

8 minutes ago, Patch33 said:

It allows for these coaches to actually get a stipend that makes sense. Folks in the public don't realize most of those stipends amout to about 25 cents an hour (less in years where you advance farther).   Columbus has a great deal in which they get their normal stipend for the normal season and then get bonus money for each play off game they win. For example in football: 10 games under contract, then another 1/10 for each game past the 1st sectional game.  

We had this at Lake Central when I was there.  Unfortunately for my bank account, I was coaching freshman at the time and this didnt affect/effect (I can never remember) me.  Plus, we never had the consistant success at this time (early 2000's) that Coach Gaddis and crew have had in recent past.

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7 minutes ago, Patch33 said:

It allows for these coaches to actually get a stipend that makes sense. Folks in the public don't realize most of those stipends amout to about 25 cents an hour (less in years where you advance farther).   Columbus has a great deal in which they get their normal stipend for the normal season and then get bonus money for each play off game they win. For example in football: 10 games under contract, then another 1/10 for each game past the 1st sectional game.  

I have always wondered if there were any schools that put this into practice.  Of course, 90% of the coaches that you speak to will give you the "I don't do it for the money" runaround, but I don't think a single one would turn his/her nose up at this idea.  Speaking specifically with football, this would be very easy to implement and would also be well earned.  Because, after all, if a team is fortunate enough to make a deep run, they play 2/3 of another season, which based on North Vermillion's public contract records, would equal out to another $1,600+ for the three paid assistants.  Now, I understand that the extra game(s) incentive would likely not equal out to the original contract money, but darn what a difference that would make regardless.     

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Our coaching stipends are listed in the ECA pay schedule.

Boys and Girls Basketball makes the same (more than football btw)

Our pays are pretty low... I made almost as much being an assistant at 5A... 

 

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Just now, Coach Nolting said:

Our coaching stipends are listed in the ECA pay schedule.

Boys and Girls Basketball makes the same (more than football btw)

Our pays are pretty low... I made almost as much being an assistant at 5A... 

 

Thanks Travis.  Keep up the great season.  Fun watching from afar.

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The North Vermillion coaching stipends are also listed under the ECA pay schedule; with assistants having a set stipend and the head football and basketball coaches being under negotiation.  

Curious what the summer conditioning policy/stipend is at some other schools?  There is one lump sum listed on the NV contract for varsity football and varsity basketball summer conditioning.  Is this usually given only to the head coach?  If the head coach requires assistants to be accountable for all summer practices, is it up to the head coach to distribute the money or does the district step in and do it so it is included on all ECA stipends?  I know there would be a lot of gray area with money given up front, so perhaps this is given at the end of the summer period?

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23 minutes ago, Joe Kane said:

The North Vermillion coaching stipends are also listed under the ECA pay schedule; with assistants having a set stipend and the head football and basketball coaches being under negotiation.  

Curious what the summer conditioning policy/stipend is at some other schools?  There is one lump sum listed on the NV contract for varsity football and varsity basketball summer conditioning.  Is this usually given only to the head coach?  If the head coach requires assistants to be accountable for all summer practices, is it up to the head coach to distribute the money or does the district step in and do it so it is included on all ECA stipends?  I know there would be a lot of gray area with money given up front, so perhaps this is given at the end of the summer period?

What's ECA pay schedule?

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2 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

What's ECA pay schedule?

Extracurricular Activities 

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Nice perk at my school:   I get .06% of our base ECA scheduled pay, so for this year its like $23 and some change.   They take that number and then multiply it by number of consecutive years that I have been on staff in the same position.  so next year I will have that number times 14 which is about another $500 on top of the base stipend.   

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40 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Nice perk at my school:   I get .06% of our base ECA scheduled pay, so for this year its like $23 and some change.   They take that number and then multiply it by number of consecutive years that I have been on staff in the same position.  so next year I will have that number times 14 which is about another $500 on top of the base stipend.   

Obviously, you don’t teach math.  :14_v:

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1 hour ago, Joe Kane said:

Curious what the summer conditioning policy/stipend is at some other schools?

$22/hr, or $15.28/hr for coaches with substitute licenses. 

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58 minutes ago, Joe Kane said:

Extracurricular Activities 

Yes its typically a sheet that attached to the teachers contract.  So each ECA pay that is in the schedule is part of the board and ISTA local negotiations.  

 

Some small schools have it made though... Tecumseh for example gets the same amount of pays and stipends as the larger schools in their district.    

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One school I used to coach at paid assistant girls 7th grade basketball coaches more than assistant varsity football coaches just because they won a state title in girls basketball at the varsity level over a decade ago.

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1 hour ago, bobref said:

Obviously, you don’t teach math.  :14_v:

Im a ball park type of fella ya know.   

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