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EasyEJay

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just bought 2 tickets to the IU/MSU game in East Lansing for Jan 19th...taking the 10 year old son for Christmas, should be a fun experience in "enemy" territory!

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https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/12/19/doyel-these-iu-whosiers-play-like-directional-program/962871001/

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Until further notice, they are a directional school. They are IU-Central or IU-Bloomington, just another satellite campus that plays basketball in a crowded state system full of them. Earlier this season the Hoosiers of IU-Central were embarrassed at home, blown out in the opener by the Indiana State University, and now they have done it again.

On Monday night IU-Central played Fort Wayne – a school once called IU-Fort Wayne, but one we might need to start calling IU-Daddy – and was blown out 92-72 by the Mastodons.

IU-Central is now 6-6 in Archie Miller’s first season as coach, not nearly as talented but every bit as befuddling as some of the teams coached by Miller’s predecessor, Tom Crean. The Hoosiers played on Monday night like they couldn’t be bothered, like Fort Wayne was somehow beneath them. They allowed Fort Wayne to shoot 51.7 percent from the floor and 56.7 percent on 3-pointers.

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You just have to chuckle.

 

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Doyel has been great addition to Sports Media in Indy.  Loved him at CBS and has done a phenomenal job covering all sports for the Star 

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Conference play resumes tonight as the Hoosiers look to end an almost 20 year drought in Madison vs the Badgers (7-7, 1-1) both teams have had a rocky start to the season and this game could be what gets one or the other back on track. The Hoosiers are 2-16 against Wisconsin in the last 19 seasons...... This is the chance for Archie to shake two more ghost that haunted his predecessor. 

1) IU can't beat Wisconsin. 

2) IU can't win away from SSAH. 

per usual with this team now I have NO idea what to expect from this game, hopefully the IPFW loss is in the review mirror after 2 solid controlling wins against Tenn Tech and YSU. I did love Archie's quote after the TT win " I'm basically going to have to be a raving lunatic everyday."  Hey whatever gets the job done coach there is a reason why Bob Knight was the most successful coach in Program history :13_v:

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When Bobby coached, without looking at his record, I think he may have won at least 90 percent of his games with the badgers.  Ironically coach Knight turned down an offer from Wisconsin because Indiana made a similar offer and he thought the recruiting grounds would be better. In 1971

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1 hour ago, southend said:

When Bobby coached, without looking at his record, I think he may have won at least 90 percent of his games with the badgers.  Ironically coach Knight turned down an offer from Wisconsin because Indiana made a similar offer and he thought the recruiting grounds would be better. In 1971

I can believe that especially in 1971..... Wisconsin and that area regionally has turned out some nice basketball players over the last 5 years though (nothing like what Indiana puts out every year)  Wisconsin has stayed pretty well close to home and recruited and done pretty well helps that Marquette is the only in-state competition plus other power 5 conference schools don't really search for under the radar kids in that area. 

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In my opinion, this loss at Wisconsin is a horrible loss. I have refrained from saying anything to this point in the season. I wanted to give Archie some time. But the complete lack of effort was just pathetic. This team has a few HORRIBLE losses; games that talent like this SHOULD win. There are a number of issues, but the big one just seems to be something in the locker room that keeps these kids from competing consistently.

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11 hours ago, Irishman said:

In my opinion, this loss at Wisconsin is a horrible loss. I have refrained from saying anything to this point in the season. I wanted to give Archie some time. But the complete lack of effort was just pathetic. This team has a few HORRIBLE losses; games that talent like this SHOULD win. There are a number of issues, but the big one just seems to be something in the locker room that keeps these kids from competing consistently.

You could be right here, lockerroom. With these players still being Tom's boys', that he recruited, I think the whole dynamics of the team changes with a new coach. Pecking order, all of a sudden, this gets foggy. Which in turn creates communication , relationship problems, not only with each man on the team, but coaches to players and so forth. The modern athletes are a pampered bunch, the"what have you done for me lately" syndrome. So im not going to put to much emphasis into this season. If you remember when Tom Crean came in, he essentially cleaned house. 1 player left on the team from previous year. Clean slate ,his guys from the start, and they had no talent but they all played hard. I think Ryan "Archie" will have to weed out the guys ,that don't want to or can't fit in with how the team is run. Bottom line it may take a few years.

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I liked the rebound win for the Hoosiers at Minnesota, I get they had the whole Lynch thing and Coffey was also out but I was down Davis and Hartman as well so its still a good win for the Hoosiers now like with Notre Dame just have to root for the Gophers going forward till they come to Bloomington. Of course have to love what we have seen from Johnson and Morgan (outside of Wisconsin game) and they emergence of Justin Smith. I expect to see a ton for Smith going forward I thought we was so strong at the beginning of the year and was sad when we fell out of favor with Archie. 

Now the key is moving forward to deal with slight success. Some would say Hoosiers are rewarded with what would look like 2 winnable games at home vs Penn State and Northwestern this week and could improve to a respectable 4-2 in Big 10 play after the first flurry of conference play. BUT with this team you just can have that mindset plus Penn State is much improved and has given IU tough games over the last couple of years. Northwestern is looking to get its season back on track that looked to have High promise and a return to the NCAA tourney and will want Bloomington to be that place. time will tell but this week could be a cross-roads for the Hoosiers...... heading towards the cellar of the Big10 or claiming its right to fight for an upper-tier spot. 

No matter what Go Hoosiers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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2 solid performances in a row.......have they turned a corner? Hopeful, but we will see.

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1 hour ago, Irishman said:

2 solid performances in a row.......have they turned a corner? Hopeful, but we will see.

I think and hope so.... problem is any success this team enjoys is going to be destroyed all over by the losses against ISU and IPFW. Indiana has a realistic shot at going 10-8 in this conference problem is those losses and drop of the Big 10 this year makes the Hoosiers a bubble team at best and cause heartbreak once again...... However I do think that a 12-6 Big10 record gets the Hoosiers in and its not out if the question with Big home games against MSU, PUR, and OSU at home and really winnable road games outside of MSU and OSU. A ton of time and basketball left, but I think a +.500 Big 10 season and an improvement in the things Archie said he was going to fix has to be considered a successful 1st season in the Archie era IMO. 

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Update: IU Sophmore De'Ron Davis out for the season as he undergoes surgery to repair a torn Achilles. An up and down half of the season for him highlighted by the performance vs Duke when he went toe to toe with Marvin Bagley III. A ton of off season work went into Davis getting is weight dropped and better basketball shape as he dropped almost 30 pounds. Hopefully he takes the same mentality into rehab best of Luck DDavis!!!!!!!! 

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Hoosiers not only winners of 3 straight in the Big 10 but finally get a dominating win with a 66-46 win over Northwestern, the run for the Hoosiers have started with the defensive intensity that Archie is known for and wants out of his teams. Hopefully a trend that not only continues for the rest of the season but for future teams as well. 

However will be very hard to extend it to 4 straight as the Hoosiers will travel to East Lansing and the Breslin Center Friday to take on the Spartans who have a sour taste in their mouths after rival Michigan came in a nabbed a victory. I don't expect IU to come away with a victory Friday the last time they did they needed the number 1 team in the country to win by 4......I do however hope for a hard fought game to prove that the Hoosiers even on the road deserve to be considered a top 5 team in the Big 10 which I believe they are even if that doesn't mean much this year! 

PS enjoy the trip to East Lansing @NRRaider2001 hopefully the Hoosiers show up as well! 

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My 10 year old and I will be surrounded in a sea of green, but that's just fine with me.  I really like the direction this Hoosiers team is going, especially in light of the huge loss of Davis.

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