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EasyEJay

2017 Indiana Hoosiers Mens Basketball

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Well here we are 5 days out from the Archie Miller era getting going. Clear from the 2 exhibition wins that Archie is putting his style of play into a group used to playing the totally opposite way. There will without a doubt be some hiccups along the way but we know that the future is bright, I would argue so does the present. IU has some experience and Archie is determined to take away the things that crippled IU the last couple of seasons and that could result in some surprise wins from this IU team. Time will tell and I don't want expectations to be too high in a transition year but I firmly believe IU is not only a mid -level above Five hundred team and a winning record in the Big10 but an NCAA tourney team as well! 

Few notes to open with and keep an eye on.

- Hoosier play a tough Non-Con schedule chance for quality wins and 19-20 wins might land them in the NCAA tourney 

- Looks like IU has a legitimate chance to sign top prospects Garland and Langford in the class of 2018 (Garland to commit sometime on Nov. and Langford said by spring) 

- Hoosier open Friday with In-State ISU and great way to start the season! sad that it is only on BTN-Plus instead of say FOX Sports Indiana, but hey people are just loving watching this Pacers team lose close games. 

- Notes from exhibition games:

Turnovers seem to be down but Miller also classifies quick shot possessions with no basket to be turnovers as well (wow good thing Crean didn't have that same policy IU would have averaged 30 TO a game!)

Devonte Green seems to be scoring option #1 like his mentality and ability going forward could have breakout year!

Hatmans leadership will be Key to keeping this team level headed during the growing pains of going from Crean to Miller 

Freddie McSwain looks WAY more comfortable in Millers system than Creans, this could be huge down the road for IU in terms of depth.

D-Davis weight loss does appear to be helping but Miller said he needs to be in game shape witch is 30 min a game.

Can Juwan Morgan evolve into the consistent offensive threat the Hoosiers will need him to be going forward.

Of all the Freshman Crean brought in that Miller retained I think that Miller seems to be the most high on Al Durham has been bringing him along slowly after an injury but really eager to work him in when he gets healthy. What will that also mean for CuJo moving forward as well? 

 

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3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Go Sycamores.

 

I was the only person in my family not to attend ISU for school so I do have a soft place in my heart for the Sycamores and like to see them do well would go to a number of games when my sister was in Terre Haute would even try to watch them on TV when Jake Odum was playing he was a fantastic PG for them!!! 

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I don't follow the names really at IU bball, but was it supposed to be this bad this year?  Or did dudes bolt with Crean firing?  

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35 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I don't follow the names really at IU bball, but was it supposed to be this bad this year?  Or did dudes bolt with Crean firing?  

Anytime you get a new coach their is going to be a transition period IU only lost 3 player (Blackmon Jr. , OG, Ananoby, and Thomas Bryant all to the NBA also were the top 3 scores from last year) 

IU does have seniors in Rob Johnson, Josh Newkirk, and Colin Hartman. Hartman is hurt yet again and begs the question should he really even try anymore? Johnson and Newkirk seem to be having trouble adjusting to Millers new system not a good recipe when they are also suppose to be the leaders.

Juwan Morgan was injured last night again and could miss significant time, he would have made it more difficult on Howard inside defensively last night. 

The bright spots are Soph De'ron Davis 14 vs ISU and 17 vs Howard if he can give us 30+ min a game and stay out of foul trouble things are bright he could be 2nd team all Big10 guy.

Freshman Al Durham and Josh Smith seem to be flourishing early in the Archie Miller system as said by many media guy.... they don't have Tom Crean coaching to unlearn (like Johnson and Newkirk).

Another thing really hurting IU is Devonte Green lack of confidence he is in a full blown Soph Slump right now and he has the potential to be a great all around guard he he and pick it up and IU gets more contribution from Curtis Jones as well IU will be fine this year.

The Howard game looked closer then it was because they honestly hit some ridiculous 3 threes late in the 2nd half the lead was as high as 18 for IU in the second half. The ISU game was a combination of many things from what I read but ISU shot 65% from three which they wont do again maybe ever in program history some you can blame of defense some you can blame on dumb luck. Think about really good 3 point teams usually hit around 40% for the game if ISU had shot that then they would have had 7 less 3's so that's minus 21 points the difference in scoring....... But thats still not an excuse despite making shots IU should have risen to the challenge 

Finally again transition year it happens IU has the 12th ranked recruiting class nationally for 2018 (guys Archie recruited) four 4-star and a really high 3-star and stand a real chance to sign 1 maybe 2 5-stars which (Garland or Langford might make that a top 3 class). This team has talent and they will improve trust me when I says they will win more games in Archie's first year than Tom Crean did in his first 3 years 6,10,12, 

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1 hour ago, NRRaider2001 said:

I'll be glued to my computer screen at 3:45 today hoping Garland decides to wear candy stripes

Well this just *%#!?*s!

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/21400490/darius-garland-commits-play-vanderbilt-commodores

I guess anything is possible until you hear the official word from Garland, but lets remember IU has a 12th ranked 2018 class without Garland or Langford the future is bright these are kids Miller got them for HIS system with the strong things we've seen from the Freshman and sophomore classes this year without Langford I firmly believe IU could be a 25 win team in 2018

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14 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

I guess anything is possible until you hear the official word from Garland, but lets remember IU has a 12th ranked 2018 class without Garland or Langford the future is bright these are kids Miller got them for HIS system with the strong things we've seen from the Freshman and sophomore classes this year without Langford I firmly believe IU could be a 25 win team in 2018

yes for sure, I'm a believer in IU with Archie running the show, and I posted the top of my post (glued to computer screen at 3:45) before ESPN blew his announcement

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I really hope the Hoosier go and play tough at Seton Hall tomorrow for Archie, I think despite the rough weekend and start to the week he has the full support of the fans but sooooooo many media members (many of whom defended and still defend Tom Crean)  are just laying into Archie two games into his start at IU , I guess after covering Crean's 1st 3 years they have lost patience sad would love to see the collective media hush if IU could knock off Seton Hall on the road!   

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Miller does not get 3 years like Crean got coming off the dumpster fire that was Sampson 

I think most would think that with Miller their would be an improvement in defense early in the season.   Seemed to be the buggaboo for Crean was defensive toughness 

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1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Miller does not get 3 years like Crean got coming off the dumpster fire that was Sampson 

I think most would think that with Miller their would be an improvement in defense early in the season.   Seemed to be the buggaboo for Crean was defensive toughness 

Fair point I full expect IU to be a top tier Big 10 team by Miller's 3rd year but were talking about game 3 with a group that he had 0 involvement in recruiting.... again some guys can shaped to his system because they are still new. But I think with the upperclassman with 2-3+ years in a totally different system its unrealistic to not think their is going to be some transition issues.

If they end up winning tomorrow I will stay with my original prediction of 21- 22 wins this season, if they don't but play hard I will still say 18 wins but will have momentum going into 2018 

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I don't understand how they can not play hard.   Take ZERO talent to have want and play hard.  

IU will get the attention of top flight talent each year thanks to Bob Knight era.  

Look at Brohm at Purdue, he has changed the culture over night with some JC transfers and a couple dudes who followed him from WKU to PU.   

I think Miller will get them going, no doubt but shouldn't IU be considered top tier every year?  Even in transition years? 

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19 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I don't understand how they can not play hard.   Take ZERO talent to have want and play hard.  

IU will get the attention of top flight talent each year thanks to Bob Knight era.  

Look at Brohm at Purdue, he has changed the culture over night with some JC transfers and a couple dudes who followed him from WKU to PU.   

I think Miller will get them going, no doubt but shouldn't IU be considered top tier every year?  Even in transition years? 

I agree 100% and so do most fans at IU but we are talking about game 3 , I have never been a big fan of Johnson or Newkirk but it seems like from the press conference this week Archie basically told the team if you don't plan on playing like a man tonight don't get on the plane. I hope for Miller's sake they play hard and compete tonight otherwise things are gonna get loud for Miller already which unfortunately for him comes with the job at IU but as I said before they will be close to a 20 win team this year I still firmly believe that. 

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Caught the last 4 mins of the 1st half, when it was 1 or 2 point game.    What happened 2nd half?   talent gap or other?   

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29 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Caught the last 4 mins of the 1st half, when it was 1 or 2 point game.    What happened 2nd half?   talent gap or other?   

Just got wore down, Seton Hall got bailed out a lot in the second half and the hit free throws it was a 10 point game with 7 min to go had the under 8 media time out Hoosier were on a 6-0 run and SH hit a couple of tough 3's and it was just basket trading after that plus De'Ron Davis fouled out with 6 min to go? Desi Rodriguez and Delgado are the real deal WOW those dudes are tough .

For IU Smith and Durham continued to play well while Johnson was OK at times but wow Newkirk and McSwain were terrible!!!! I really don't know how any coach could justify putting those 2 out on the court at any point in the game they were the cause of a good deal of IU's turnovers. Bright side Green played the way he is capable of and really showed he is an all around tough guard and Morgan seemed to be healthy and played extended solid min.

The start to this season is reminding me a lot of 2 years ago, Yogi's senior year when IU went to Maui and got ran out going 1-2 almost 0-3 and went on the road to Duke and got destroyed. But took their lumps early and got it figured out with a good solid rotation and went on to win the Big10 and make the tourney. I'm not saying Iu will win the big 10 but I think they will get some easy wins over the next couple of weeks and may take some licks again in Dec but will surprise some tams in Late Dec, Jan and Feb still saying 18-19 wins

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thanks for summary.   I would say that Yogi was a HUGE factor that year, IU from sounds of it, doesn't have a YOGI type 

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36 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

thanks for summary.   I would say that Yogi was a HUGE factor that year, IU from sounds of it, doesn't have a YOGI type 

Oh no doubt they are i don't disagree think they have enough talent thought to get to that 18 win mark which isn't terrible for Miller's first year with the new system and the recruiting class coming in they will be back to 22+ wins next year. 

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Solid Win last night and 70-53 over USF, now (2-2) not the best competition but we saw the best half of basketball from IU  and Archie with his first tech officially and IU coach! LOL its amazing what this defense looks like when an opponent doesn't hit 3 pointers that would make Steph Curry envious 

really saw great things from Morgan and Johnson tonight. Durham played 31 min and had 0 turnovers my only complaint is still from Newkirk that kid needs to get it figured out but at least Archie has made the decision several times already this year to sit him for most of the 2nd half. Really do like what I see from Durham and Smith two solid freshman that are gonna be around for a while 

IU will finish this week with 2 more really winable games vs 

Arkansas State and Eastern Michigan before starting Murders Row:

vs #1 Duke 

@ UM

vs Iowa

@ #18 U of L 

vs #13 ND @ BLFH

Would hate to be (7-7) heading into conference play I think if IU can get 2 wins in that stretch of 5 games then that would put them at (9-5) with some confidence heading into Big10 season

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