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Elllison and Brookins are a solid tandem plus Gest showed some promise next year for IU plus their highest 3/4-star recruit is a RB walker tho Stepp is ranked higher 

Purdue also looking set at RB with Jones for next year but I don't know about what else the roster holds Purdue might stand a good shot with early playing time 

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This was supposedly known for a while that he would not be part of Notre Dame class. From what I’ve gathered Stepp loves Notre Dame but there’s some academic hurdles that won’t allow him to go to south bend. Not sure exactly what the issue is. Too bad because everything I’ve read he’s a great kid and was kind of a lead recruit for the Irish class of 18. Wish him the best, hopefully in West Lafayette!

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11 hours ago, wolves on the prowl said:

This was supposedly known for a while that he would not be part of Notre Dame class. From what I’ve gathered Stepp loves Notre Dame but there’s some academic hurdles that won’t allow him to go to south bend. Not sure exactly what the issue is. Too bad because everything I’ve read he’s a great kid and was kind of a lead recruit for the Irish class of 18. Wish him the best, hopefully in West Lafayette!

This is accurate and from what I have heard ND is helping him with his recruiting to another institution. Unfortunate for both sides that this did not work out.

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On 12/3/2017 at 8:14 AM, boilerfan87 said:

Nah, come on down and Boiler Up!

I think it would be come on up, isn't Purdue north (northwest) of Indy? I understand North, South, East and West is hard to grasp for a Boiler fan 

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On 12/3/2017 at 7:14 PM, EasyEJay said:

Elllison and Brookins are a solid tandem plus Gest showed some promise next year for IU plus their highest 3/4-star recruit is a RB walker tho Stepp is ranked higher 

Purdue also looking set at RB with Jones for next year but I don't know about what else the roster holds Purdue might stand a good shot with early playing time 

The entire stable of IU running backs is mid level MAC quality at best.  Central Michigan calibre.

Remember Coleman, Howard and Redding, guys who are playing in the NFL?  

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44 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

The entire stable of IU running backs is mid level MAC quality at best.  Central Michigan calibre.

Remember Coleman, Howard and Redding, guys who are playing in the NFL?  

I remember Coleman, Howard, and Redding running behind multiple All-American’s in Dan Feeney and Jason Spriggs. IU didn’t start a single senior on the offensive line the entire year. Morgan Ellison as a true freshman showed great promise. The three RB’s you previously mentioned weren’t nearly as highly touted as Stepp coming out of high school. 

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19 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I remember Coleman, Howard, and Redding running behind multiple All-American’s in Dan Feeney and Jason Spriggs. IU didn’t start a single senior on the offensive line the entire year. Morgan Ellison as a true freshman showed great promise. The three RB’s you previously mentioned weren’t nearly as highly touted as Stepp coming out of high school. 

Think about that for just a minute FBK16.  All that NFL talent on an Indiana University roster.  And you didn't mention IUs greatest strength, its passing game (Sudfeld/Cobbs/Latimer)  And the best we could do with all that talent was 6-6.  

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27 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I remember Coleman, Howard, and Redding running behind multiple All-American’s in Dan Feeney and Jason Spriggs. IU didn’t start a single senior on the offensive line the entire year. Morgan Ellison as a true freshman showed great promise. The three RB’s you previously mentioned weren’t nearly as highly touted as Stepp coming out of high school. 

I watched the IU interior offensive line play extensively this season.  Not impressed.  Our guys do not pass the eye test.  They are short, undersized and generally outmanned by most Big Ten defensive fronts.  At no time was IU able to pound the ball inside for short yardage when it really counted.  I don't see an NFL calibre OL in the group.  Some think Cronk has that potential.  But he's no Dan Feeney or Jason Spriggs.   Wilson's recruiting appears to have slipped considerably over the past two cycles.  

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19 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

Think about that for just a minute FBK16.  All that NFL talent on an Indiana University roster.  And you didn't mention IUs greatest strength, its passing game (Sudfeld/Cobbs/Latimer)  And the best we could do with all that talent was 6-6.  

*offensive talent. 

Unfortunately Sudfeld, Lattimer, Coleman, Howard, Spriggs etc didn’t get to play with a defense coached by Tom Allen. There’s 3 aspects to the game of football. Doesn’t matter how good your offense is if you can’t stop anybody.

10 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

I watched the IU interior offensive line play extensively this season.  Not impressed.  Our guys do not pass the eye test.  They are short, undersized and generally outmanned by most Big Ten defensive fronts.  At no time was IU able to pound the ball inside for short yardage when it really counted.  I don't see an NFL calibre OL in the group.  Some think Cronk has that potential.  But he's no Dan Feeney or Jason Spriggs.   Wilson's recruiting appears to have slipped considerably over the past two cycles.  

And again you’re speaking out of your a**. IU is on the cusp of a top 40 recruiting class under Allen this year with the majority of the top talent being OL and a RB. They aren’t short, undersized, and undermanned, they are simply inexperienced. When you graduate 3 seniors (1 being an AA) you’re bound to have a down year in the trenches.

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3 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

*offensive talent. 

Unfortunately Sudfeld, Lattimer, Coleman, Howard, Spriggs etc not got to play with a defense coaches by Tom Allen. There’s 3 aspects to the game of football. Doesn’t matter how good your offense is if you can’t stop anybody.

Unfortunately true my friend.  If IU could figure out a way to pair the 2015 offense with the 2017 defense and get the best out of their  kicking game, they would be darn right dangerous.  

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If Purdue is able to keep their coach, they should be able to go bowling every year. IU could be the better of the two every year and miss out, simply because of the divisions and the hurdles Indiana must leap that Purdue doesn't have.

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9 minutes ago, Staxawax said:

If Purdue is able to keep their coach, they should be able to go bowling every year. IU could be the better of the two every year and miss out, simply because of the divisions and the hurdles Indiana must leap that Purdue doesn't have.

The fact that Purdue was able to hang on to Brohm is a huge win for Boiler football.  The west is very soft and PU can be competing with Wisconsin and Iowa for a division title as soon as next year.  I see Brohm hanging on at PU for 3 to 5 years, then off to the NFL.  

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12 hours ago, DrivenT said:

  They are short, undersized 

IU OLINE

6'5" 305

6'3" 310

6'3" 305

6'4" 305

6'5" 305

Ave. 6'4" 306

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CLEMSON

6'5" 295

6'5" 325

6'4" 315

6'3" 290

6'2" 340

AVE:  6'3 3/4  313

Bullseye-Missed-target.png

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11 minutes ago, Night Hawk said:

IU OLINE

6'5" 305

6'3" 310

6'3" 305

6'4" 305

6'5" 305

Ave. 6'4" 306

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CLEMSON

6'5" 295

6'5" 325

6'4" 315

6'3" 290

6'2" 340

AVE:  6'3 3/4  313

Bullseye-Missed-target.png

And cant grind out a yard in crunch time when it really counts.  That's what 2 star prospects will give you.  Cant recall how many times Lagow threw that horrible fade pass into the corner of the end zone because the coaching staff had zero confidence in the running the game to punch the ball into the end zone.  

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12 hours ago, Staxawax said:

If Purdue is able to keep their coach, they should be able to go bowling every year. IU could be the better of the two every year and miss out, simply because of the divisions and the hurdles Indiana must leap that Purdue doesn't have.

They need to redo the divisions somehow. Its not going to be fun having Wisconsin in the Big Ten title every year.

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1 minute ago, CGFan2017 said:

They need to redo the divisions somehow. Its not going to be fun having Wisconsin in the Big Ten title every year.

I like this North - South setup

North

MIchigan/Michigan State/Northwestern/Wisconsin/Minnesota/Iowa/Nebraska

South

Maryland/Rutgers/Penn State/Ohio State/Indiana/Purdue/Illinois

20 minutes ago, Night Hawk said:

IU OLINE

6'5" 305

6'3" 310

6'3" 305

6'4" 305

6'5" 305

Ave. 6'4" 306

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CLEMSON

6'5" 295

6'5" 325

6'4" 315

6'3" 290

6'2" 340

AVE:  6'3 3/4  313

Bullseye-Missed-target.png

Purdue OL - based on current depth chart.  4 Indiana guys on the line

6-6  324

6-8 310

6-2   305

6-4  310

6-5  305      

http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/purdue/91717

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6 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

And cant grind out a yard in crunch time when it really counts.  That's what 2 star prospects will give you.  Cant recall how many times Lagow threw that horrible fade pass into the corner of the end zone because the coaching staff had zero confidence in the running the game to punch the ball into the end zone.  

So it really has nothing to do with them being short or undersized.

If you say what you mean, you will avoid looking like an uninformed message board gnome. 

To each his own.  I suppose some still get some jollies by posting drivel.

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