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1 hour ago, El Tigre said:

Different strokes . . . but "bro culture" seems to be working out for some people

 

 

Sweeney looks like a redneck hillbilly dancing with the brothers in the hood.  He should leave that activity to his graduate assistants.  Can you imagine Nick Saban or Urban Meyer in this role?

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So you are saying that Dabo has hurt the Clemson brand and football product as a whole? 

Nope.  You said that, not me.

 

Its probably good for recruiting.

But it undoubtedly is connected to the declining TV viewership and overall ratings we are witnessing at both the college and NFL level.  People are turned off by the product.  

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Call me old school/old fool/whatever, but I don't think the "Bro" culture is all that appropriate.  Although the right camaraderie and chemistry are needed between the coach and players, a system of discipline is essential as well. 

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More horrific "bro culture"  Just ridiculous.  Where is the class?  This crap trickles down from the NFL all the way down to the lowest levels.  Great example our "pros", or "bros" are setting.  

As long as our adults keep enabling these overgrown millennial children, this activity will continue to permeate our great game.  

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13 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

I lament the loss of proper decorum between coach and player, at all levels.  Too much physical "bro" interaction breaks down the lines of authority and responsibility between the two, in my opinion.  Every time I see a retirement announcement of a Pat Parks, Phil Jensen, Rick Streiff, etc, these lines get further blurred.  It is a passing of the torch that denigrates the game and its overall decorum, rather than enhancing it.  

Real, not 'bro, coaches:

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38 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

Sweeney looks like a redneck hillbilly dancing with the brothers in the hood. 

Tells me all I need to know about your opinion.  Thanks for playing. 

I get sick of the bro culture myself.  This picture is clearly crossing the line.

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You guys have a problem with celebrations but post pictures of a guy who's team made a music video before they won a super bowl.

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33 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

Sweeney looks like a redneck hillbilly dancing with the brothers in the hood

well that's classy. 

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Image result for Tom Landry celebrating

He's looking for someone to chest bump here. There were no millennials around to reciprocate.

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4 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

Tells me all I need to know about your opinion.  Thanks for playing. 

I get sick of the bro culture myself.  This picture is clearly crossing the line.

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Great picture.  Shows class and dignity.  

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1 minute ago, JQWL said:

Image result for Tom Landry celebrating

He's looking for someone to chest bump here. There were no millennials around to reciprocate.

Landry had a nice vertical.  He would do well in OTA's

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9 minutes ago, JQWL said:

You guys have a problem with celebrations but post pictures of a guy who's team made a music video before they a super bowl.

Sorry - my sarcasm doesn't translate to message boards! LOL

Here's another example of coaches crossing the line with his bro's. 

 

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1 minute ago, oldtimeqb said:

Sorry - my sarcasm doesn't translate to message boards! LOL

Here's another example of coaches crossing the line with his bro's. 

 

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More class and dignity.  We Boomers are embedded with the double standard gene.  

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36 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

Sweeney looks like a redneck hillbilly dancing with the brothers in the hood.  He should leave that activity to his graduate assistants.  Can you imagine Nick Saban or Urban Meyer in this role?

Nope.  You said that, not me.

 

Its probably good for recruiting.

But it undoubtedly is connected to the declining TV viewership and overall ratings we are witnessing at both the college and NFL level.  People are turned off by the product.  

Yes, I can. 

 

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1 minute ago, oldtimeqb said:

Sorry - my sarcasm doesn't translate to message boards! LOL

Here's another example of coaches crossing the line with his bro's. 

 

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At least he is in appropriate, professional  attire for a football head coach.

Not like this schlub:5922344.jpg

 

 

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6 minutes ago, JQWL said:

Image result for Tom Landry celebrating

He's looking for someone to chest bump here. There were no millennials around to reciprocate.

FOR THE WIN!!!!!

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1 minute ago, Woody Hayes said:

Yes, I can. 

 

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Your hero, the player-punching Woody Hayes, must be rolling in his grave.

 

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5 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Your hero, the player-punching Woody Hayes, must be rolling in his grave.

 

ZINGGGG!!! Troll game on fleek, Bro!!

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2 minutes ago, Woody Hayes said:

ZINGGGG!!! Troll game on fleek, Bro!!

fleek?

 

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3 hours ago, DrivenT said:

Sweeney looks like a redneck hillbilly dancing with the brothers in the hood.  He should leave that activity to his graduate assistants.  Can you imagine Nick Saban or Urban Meyer in this role?

I really think that Sweeney looks like a coach who understands his role and how to reach his players on a personal level.  You certainly sound like a middle aged white man when you speak of the "brothers in the hood," considering there are white and black men in this picture who undoubtedly come from a multitude of different backgrounds.  As a coach, you can be successful with a variety of different methods.  It is our responsibility to develop meaningful relationships with the young men that we coach.  Each relationship must have boundaries, which are clear and consistent.  Nick Saban and Urban Meyer both have their methods as well.  I am glad that you know more about being a successful Head Football coach more so than the man who just won the last national championship, and has the best odds to do it again this season.

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1 hour ago, eschnur66 said:

I really think that Sweeney looks like a coach who understands his role and how to reach his players on a personal level.  You certainly sound like a middle aged white man when you speak of the "brothers in the hood," considering there are white and black men in this picture who undoubtedly come from a multitude of different backgrounds.  As a coach, you can be successful with a variety of different methods.  It is our responsibility to develop meaningful relationships with the young men that we coach.  Each relationship must have boundaries, which are clear and consistent.  Nick Saban and Urban Meyer both have their methods as well.  I am glad that you know more about being a successful Head Football coach more so than the man who just won the last national championship, and has the best odds to do it again this season.

I like Sweeney.  He has done a terrific job at Clemson and probably does not get the recognition he deserves.  I doubt that he encourages the "bro culture" element that is evident on his team, but participates minimally to placate his players.  He seems like a guy who knows where to draw the line between player and coach, and play both ends of the spectrum.  That might help to explain his great success.  Note that he learned under Saban.  No doubt that had great influence on his approach, demeanor and style.

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28 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

I like Sweeney.  He has done a terrific job at Clemson and probably does not get the recognition he deserves.  I doubt that he encourages the "bro culture" element that is evident on his team, but participates minimally to placate his players.  He seems like a guy who knows where to draw the line between player and coach, and play both ends of the spectrum.  That might help to explain his great success.  Note that he learned under Saban.  No doubt that had great influence on his approach, demeanor and style.

Thank you for the response. If you obviously understand the circumstances, why the utter insistence upon the "bro culture" issue?

Also, I must ask how I get the down vote for my previous post?  Unless, of course I wrote something that offended someone, because in that case...

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7 minutes ago, eschnur66 said:

Thank you for the response. If you obviously understand the circumstances, why the utter insistence upon the "bro culture" issue?

Also, I must ask how I get the down vote for my previous post?  Unless, of course I wrote something that offended someone, because in that case...

Because I think he tolerates it.  Doubt he encourages it.

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