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Heritage Hills stadium to get $1.8M facelift

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Wow...  Looks like a lot of work ahead.  In case anyone else was wondering from the blueprint (surely I'm not the only one...) this is a speed table:image.png.e171b2537ec69a22e4044382f5420236.png:13_v:I feel ridiculous now for having to look it up

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Can only think about 1.8 million would have built 20 years ago. Price has changed so much in the construction industry and i can still get a coke out of some machines for 50/65 cents. 

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Hmm, taxpayer money being used for improvements that will primarily benefit extracurricular, non-academic activities.    Why can't such improvements be funded via private donations?

 

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1 minute ago, Coach Ellenwood said:

And............there it is.

Somebody has to be a watchdog and ask the tough questions.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

Hmm, taxpayer money being used for improvements that will primarily benefit extracurricular, non-academic activities.    Why can't such improvements be funded via private donations?

 

I understand your fiscally conservative nature, but aren't extra curricular activities an important part of a students education? Don't these things make a student more well rounded? Don't these things also benefit communities socially and instill pride.  Think of what sports did for the University of Mississippi in 1962 and for the town of Philadelphia Mississippi when Marcus Dupree was there. Read about why Bear Bryant played USC in Alabama when he knew they were probably going to get beat. Plato, I believe also stated, that a sound body led to a sound mind and recommended a strenuous exercise regimen during his days as a "Teacher."  I understand, that we should try to fund things without tax money whenever possible, but if there is extra money as seems to be the case here, why not use it to upgrade facilities and improve community and school pride.  That money can typically only be used on capital improvements, so why not?  If you do not use tax money, what do schools in poor area with no economic benefactors do? 

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1 hour ago, Patch33 said:

I understand your fiscally conservative nature, but aren't extra curricular activities an important part of a students education? Don't these things make a student more well rounded? Don't these things also benefit communities socially and instill pride.  Think of what sports did for the University of Mississippi in 1962 and for the town of Philadelphia Mississippi when Marcus Dupree was there. Read about why Bear Bryant played USC in Alabama when he knew they were probably going to get beat. Plato, I believe also stated, that a sound body led to a sound mind and recommended a strenuous exercise regimen during his days as a "Teacher."  I understand, that we should try to fund things without tax money whenever possible, but if there is extra money as seems to be the case here, why not use it to upgrade facilities and improve community and school pride.  That money can typically only be used on capital improvements, so why not?  If you do not use tax money, what do schools in poor area with no economic benefactors do? 

Not necessarily,  hence them being labeled 'extracurricular'.   As for your 'extra money' argument why can't that be returned to the taxpayers?

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Studies show that children in extracurriculars do better academically, socially and have fewer issues away from school.  Isn't that worth the expense?  So schools shouldn't save money for future growth or improvement of facilities? They just give it back and ask and each time it's needed they should ask for a referendum.  It is PUBLIC education. Would you prefer a world in which just privates operated? Would prefer a world in which students paid for these extracurriculars? Then what do we do with kids that can't afford them? 

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1 minute ago, Patch33 said:

Studies show that children in extracurriculars do better academically, socially and have fewer issues away from school.  Isn't that worth the expense?  So schools shouldn't save money for future growth or improvement of facilities? They just give it back and ask and each time it's needed they should ask for a referendum.  It is PUBLIC education. Would you prefer a world in which just privates operated? Would prefer a world in which students paid for these extracurriculars? Then what do we do with kids that can't afford them? 

1.  If the parents of that child, and not taxpayers as a whole, want to foot the expense, sure.

2.  Government schools should plan for future growth, based on it's primary mission of providing academic instruction.

3. Yes,  I advocate government getting out of the education business entirely. 

4. Yes.

5. Private charity.

 

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So in your world, only the wealthy kids would get an education and our economic inequality would grow. you would have loved to live in the Guilded age ( if you were lucky to be wealthy).  I would argue that the best way to improve and grow the economy is by educating everyone. Only Kids with money should get to play sports, be in choir or band, art club, etc. I understand your fiscal conservatism, but your views would create a greater inequality in our country then already exists.

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Congrats to HH.  Can't help but think...almost $2mil and people not on the HH side won't even know it happened. 

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21 minutes ago, Patch33 said:

So in your world, only the wealthy kids would get an education and our economic inequality would grow. you would have loved to live in the Guilded age ( if you were lucky to be wealthy).  I would argue that the best way to improve and grow the economy is by educating everyone. Only Kids with money should get to play sports, be in choir or band, art club, etc. I understand your fiscal conservatism, but your views would create a greater inequality in our country then already exists.

No, if there is a great enough need for a service at a particular price point I trust the market will provide it.   

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Congrats to the HH folks.  The plans look great!  

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History is not on your side my friend.  The market has never cared about the needs of the poor. 

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10 minutes ago, Patch33 said:

History is not on your side my friend.  The market has never cared about the needs of the poor. 

Hence the need for private charity.

 

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38 minutes ago, VIP said:

Congrats to HH.  Can't help but think...almost $2mil and people not on the HH side won't even know it happened. 

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39 minutes ago, VIP said:

Congrats to HH.  Can't help but think...almost $2mil and people not on the HH side won't even know it happened. 

It will be very visible to you across the field according to the plans ... (but i know what you mean)  

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How much is the Koch family kicking in for this facelift?  

 

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8 hours ago, Muda69 said:

How much is the Koch family kicking in for this facelift?  

 

I would guess about what they kicked in to ours a few years ago...

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21 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Hmm, taxpayer money being used for improvements that will primarily benefit extracurricular, non-academic activities.    Why can't such improvements be funded via private donations?

 

Why use taxpayer money for any education expense? All school's should be private! And for that matter, most of what taxpayer money is spent on should be privatized. We should have toll roads only, private prison system, welfare and welfare programs eleminated, Medicaid and Medicare eleminated. Privatize everything.

I  am with Muda quit using my money for things I don't use.

 

 

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