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Brownsburg’s QB Hunter Johnson, Mr. Football in 2016,  has announced he is leaving Clemson and will enroll at Northwestern per Indy Star. He saw limited minutes as a freshman last season. He will be eligible for the 2019 season.

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2 hours ago, Staxawax said:

Brownsburg’s QB Hunter Johnson, Mr. Football in 2016,  has announced he is leaving Clemson and will enroll at Northwestern per Indy Star. He saw limited minutes as a freshman last season. He will be eligible for the 2019 season.

Pat Fitzgerald defeats Tom Allen

Hmmmm    Shocking

 

 

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I had thought he would maybe have chosen Iowa where a couple of other Brownsburg players from his era went i believe. I remember the announcement that he was leaving a while back looks like he took the time to choose the best fit for him. I'm excited to see him as a starter in 2019. 

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Not really shocking. Fitz is a top-notch coach with a pretty good gig over in Evanston with Northwestern playing in the weaker division. Plus with Clayton Thorson coming back for just one more season the job will be Hunter's to lose over the next few seasons.

I don't think QB is the big issue with IU. Peyton Ramsey is at least a decent young player and they just got a 4 star in Penix from down in Florida. 

Northwestern is just a better opportunity and maybe Hunter can elevate them to win their division.

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I'm not surprised either.  But, it's not like Purdue is lacking at the QB position...

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10 hours ago, Dan Jones said:

Another Gunner Kiel

I dont think thats a fair comparison. He got put in a bad situation with Trevor Lawrence, who is looking like his is going to be the next top NFL prospect we have seen in a while.

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12 hours ago, CGFan2017 said:

I dont think thats a fair comparison. He got put in a bad situation with Trevor Lawrence, who is looking like his is going to be the next top NFL prospect we have seen in a while.

Plus, Bryant still has 1 year of eligibility. Way too early to say Johnson will not live up to the expectations of recruiting analysts and fans. Northwestern is a great choice. Solid academics, great location in Evanston/Chicago, great coach in Fitz, and an unbelievable newly built athletic complex on the shore of Lake Michigan. 

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23 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

Plus, Bryant still has 1 year of eligibility. Way too early to say Johnson will not live up to the expectations of recruiting analysts and fans. Northwestern is a great choice. Solid academics, great location in Evanston/Chicago, great coach in Fitz, and an unbelievable newly built athletic complex on the shore of Lake Michigan. 

I totally agree.  Big things are going on in Evanston and the Wildcats could very well become a force in the Big Ten West.

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Coach Fitz is pretty awesome.  My son was there for a the specialist showcase camp and I inadvertently wore an ND t-shirt.  He walked by, stopped, told me I needed  a new shirt and had a manager kid go get me a Northwestern shirt on the spot.  It was pretty funny.   I still have the ND shirt though....

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The talent that Clemson can recruit now is on level playing field with Alabama. Hunter is a good QB, but he is not a blue chip 5 star QB. Good move for him to go to Northwestern. I can see him being very successful there, in that system.

 

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1 hour ago, psaboy said:

The talent that Clemson can recruit now is on level playing field with Alabama. Hunter is a good QB, but he is not a blue chip 5 star QB. Good move for him to go to Northwestern. I can see him being very successful there, in that system.

 

How did he get the 5 star designation in the first place?  That always seemed very odd to me.  Indiana has never produced a 5 star athlete.  

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52 minutes ago, DrivenT said:

How did he get the 5 star designation in the first place?  That always seemed very odd to me.  Indiana has never produced a 5 star athlete.  

Jaylon Smith would beg to differ.

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16 minutes ago, CityCoach53 said:

Jaylon Smith would beg to differ.

Its an extreme rarity

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11 hours ago, DrivenT said:

How did he get the 5 star designation in the first place?  That always seemed very odd to me.  Indiana has never produced a 5 star athlete.  

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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1 hour ago, BTB30 said:

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Hmmm   Seemed like a fair question to me

 

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14 hours ago, DrivenT said:

Its an extreme rarity

"The state of Indiana has never produced a 5 star athlete. "   

Jaylon Smith.     

"Extreme rarity"

Do you even think about what you've typed before you push submit?

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8 minutes ago, raiderx2 said:

"The state of Indiana has never produced a 5 star athlete. "   

Jaylon Smith.     

"Extreme rarity"

Do you even think about what you've typed before you push submit?

I'm generally "off the cuff", but would be happy to look at your historical list of Indiana 5 star football recruits.

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https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2003/indiana

 

Went back to 2003 and did the research

4 Indiana 5 star recruits in past 15 years :

 

2017 - Hunter Johnson

2013 - Jaylon Smith

2012 - Gunnar Kiel

2006 - James Aldridge

320 schools x avg 40 man roster = 12800 player seasons x 15 years = 192,000 player seasons

Total 4 Five star recruits divided into 192000 player seasons = 0.0000208

A bit rare

 

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Didn't  Aldridge move in from outta state as well? I think he only played a year or two at Merrillville.

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2 hours ago, DrivenT said:

https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2003/indiana

 

Went back to 2003 and did the research

4 Indiana 5 star recruits in past 15 years :

 

2017 - Hunter Johnson

2013 - Jaylon Smith

2012 - Gunnar Kiel

2006 - James Aldridge

320 schools x avg 40 man roster = 12800 player seasons x 15 years = 192,000 player seasons

Total 4 Five star recruits divided into 192000 player seasons = 0.0000208

A bit rare

 

1 out of 3 make NFL roster and possibly be impact player. I would bet to say the 50% of the 5 star athletes coming out of high school don't have an impacting college career let alone have much success in NFL. 

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Indiana is averaging one 5 star every 5 years.

So lets do the math a different way

320 football playing schools.  Lets say average team has 12 seniors.  Thats 3840 seniors per year, X 5 years = 19200 seniors.

So exactly one out of approx 20000 senior high school football players in Indiana is a 5 star athlete.

Thats RARE indeed.

 

 

 

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Let's look at facts though, shall we?

In 2016-17, there were 310,000 seniors that played football. There were 33 players that received a 5 star rating from that group; that is just .01%; so let's talk about what is actually rare, shall we? It is not just rare for Indiana to have one; it is rare for most of the states in the country to have one. Let's also keep in mind that the handful of people who do these ratings live in Texas, California and Florida. Wanna guess where most 5 star recruits come from???
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2018/1/26/16936186/recruiting-stars-rankings-high-school-football

98.77% of that class was unrated. The "rating" system is overrated; plain and simple.

How about just letting ago of your crusade to continually beat up high school football in Indiana? You attack the game, the coaches; especially the new hires; and even more so......people you know NOTHING about.

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In the 2017 class, there were 3 5 star rated QB's.......3. There were 5 offensive linemen, and they were all tackles. There were just 4 running backs.

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My original point here is that I felt it a bit odd that Johnson was designated a 5 star recruit. Given the absolute rarity of 5 stars, you would have expected he would have lead his team to greater heights, and put up more impressive numbers

 

Someone saw in him the raw talent to designate the 5 star rating. I'm simply challenging that rating due to its extreme rarity. 

 

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