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32 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

This. I can't find another sport where a conference/division title doesn't in some way impact your postseason.

You have very valid arguments and I've really enjoyed the discussion, but I don't think you can use a pro sport or even the NCAA to justify a HS system change though.  It's a completely different animal and driven so much by money/TV.   

Time to head out and get the car loaded up.  Its football Friday!!!

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Don't know about you guys but I am trying to get home so I can make my way to the scrimmage at this point.

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I'm all in for the all in and I'd like to see the sectionals only seeded.  Good teams normally advance from sectionals, at least most of the time so there's no advantage to seeding at that point.

I hope everyone has a dry night tonight.  It's gonna be good to hear the pads crackin' again!:07_v:

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This is one of the better discussions going on the GID, IMO. But the discussion is much better when someone says “I’m for this,” or “I’m against that,” and then supports it with some reasoning. Otherwise, the comment doesn’t add much.

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2 hours ago, bobref said:

This is one of the better discussions going on the GID, IMO. But the discussion is much better when someone says “I’m for this,” or “I’m against that,” and then supports it with some reasoning. Otherwise, the comment doesn’t add much.

But at least it’s discussion. Miss the gold ole days Bob. Almost wish the multiplier threads were back.

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2 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

 Almost wish the multiplier threads were back.

Hehe.......be careful what you wish for.

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5 hours ago, bobref said:

This is one of the better discussions going on the GID, IMO. But the discussion is much better when someone says “I’m for this,” or “I’m against that,” and then supports it with some reasoning. Otherwise, the comment doesn’t add much.

I believe that this topic has been beaten to death over the past few years around here and I don't think repetition is gonna make it better.  The original topic was seeding of the classes but it evolved into the yearly "let's thin the herd" discussion.  It's time to sit back and enjoy what we have.  The cream will always rise, or it should, and there will be a few surprises.  

 

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17 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

http://gridirondigest.net/topic/58160-what-a-playoff-qualification-system-would-look-like/

Last year around playoff time I showed what a hypothetical playoff would look like in my proposed format. FWIW, Evansville Mater Dei and North Posey were both in the field and by a comfortable margin at that. Mater Dei was the #2 seed in the south and North Posey was the #8 seed.

Records aren't indicative of a teams worth. There are plenty of ranking systems that rank teams on a number of criteria, not just W-L record. I don't think the IHSAA would ever resort to strictly W-L record because conferences are equally balanced.

I do recall your hypothetical playoff. Not that I disagree with the current format or your proposed format. I did however notice some things from your hypothetical as the all in format took place. In 4A your hypothetical qualification format had #1 Evansville Central vs #16 New Castle. Rightfully so for New Castle coming into the tournament with their 5-4 season. That being said in the actual all in format at the end of the season 1-8 Mooresville after winning their first sectional game beat New Castle at New Castle to advance to the Sectional Championship and give Greenwood a good fight before losing. I think the possibility of this happening really interests many people and why they like to see the all in format. For Mooresville I am sure they were thrilled to be able to play in the tournament and got things headed in the right direction. We will see this year but that definitely could have been a building block into this year and what they might do. Without the all in format that may not have been possible.

Just giving another POV.

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To those who support a qualification system for football- would you support the same system in basketball and baseball?

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14 hours ago, PHJIndy said:

I believe that this topic has been beaten to death over the past few years around here and I don't think repetition is gonna make it better.  The original topic was seeding of the classes but it evolved into the yearly "let's thin the herd" discussion.  It's time to sit back and enjoy what we have.  The cream will always rise, or it should, and there will be a few surprises.  

 

The cream of the crop will always rise to the top!

 

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On 8/11/2018 at 10:35 AM, DanteEstonia said:

To those who support a qualification system for football- would you support the same system in basketball and baseball?

Don't follow either nearly as much as football. Will say that there is much more parity in both those sports across the state where past results aren't quite as indicative as future results. One player can make an average to below average team good in basketball just like one dominant pitcher on a bad team could beat any team on any given night. Football is different, you get beat by 4 TDs one week you're likely looking at the same outcome in the playoffs with the all-in.

I would support a qualification for basketball and baseball but don't believe it as a necessity like it is for football.

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