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Madison Football is a very unique situation. They are the smallest school in the HHC. The Cubs are a 4A School playing in a 5A and 6A conference. If Madison is in a league with schools of similar demographic makeup, then I thoroughly believe that they win more and very possibly finish the season with a winning record every now and then. All I can say from being the head coach for 4 seasons that the kids will give you everything they got. They will compete and they will play their hearts out every Friday night. Jut look at Sectional of 2018 Madison with one win travels to a 6-3 Edgewood Squad. Madison does lose but it is a ballgame the whole way through. A break hear and there and Madison comes home with a victory. (Edgewood won 28-19) I came down in 2003 - 1st season 0-10 We had some injuries to some key players in weeks one and two. I started majority freshman and sophomores. As coaches know it is hard to win on Friday nights with your JV squad on the field. We were defeated in the sectional by a very good Pat Parks Shelbyville team. 2004 - 0-10 Again. However, we made strides we were up 14 at half in week one. They finally figured out where to run the ball at in the second half. We lost 21-20. Week 4 we are at Jeff. Thy got PJ Thomas - all state baseball player and punter at QB and Trey Burgess (future IU running back). It is 4th and 4 under 2 min Jeff has just used their last timeout. We are nursing a 16-14 lead. We stuff their ISO play for a 2 yard loss. Madison has never beaten Jeff.. We get called for a facemask. Kid did not mean to do it but it happened. Sectional we draw East Central. 21-17 East Central with 2 min to go we are driving. 25 going in on a 3rd down play my Q throws an interception they take it nearly all the way back and score late for the victory. Their principal comes in to our locker room to tell us how much respect he has for our program. How the fans at the beginning of the game were making plans for running clock and being able to get home early. We also did not have 2 of our best players for that game. 2005- We start out of the gate 3-0 and are the WLKY team of the week. Jeff week 4 Operation football and the whole 9 yards. We make a miscue hear and there and lose by 14 very competitive game bounce back with a win vs JC and sit 4-1. Get New Albany, East and BNL who are all ranked and they show us what we need to work on. Play JC in sectional and get our first playoff win in a number of years. Lose in the semi finals to a very good SD team who we had beaten in week two. Our offense was potent that year. Coach Ketchum went for it on 4th down every time to keep our kids off the filed. My Q set the record for completions in a game that night 37 What is most impressive is he did that on 44 attempts. 2006 - A season of high hopes. Make some mistakes week one lose 21-8. Week 3 we bounce back and beat a sound FC team. Play through some injuries and such come in at 2-7 on the year. Lose to JC in overtime on a 4th down QB Draw. We knew it was coming. Our kid just did not get low enough on the hit and their Q bulled into the endzone for the win. could we have won more that year maybe but we played hard every week and we never gave up. 7 and 34 is not going to win anyone any coach of the year awards. However if you consider who the Cubs have to play week in and week out I call it respectable. I have experienced great success in football as well as other sports prior to Madison. I have experienced great amounts of success in football and other sports post Madison. And while at Madison I experienced success. What means the most to me is all the great kids that I got to work with and be a part of their lives. A majority of my former players are doing great things in all parts of the world. A few of them I have stayed right at home. # 60 Patric Morrison would eventually become Madison's Head Football Coach. Former All-State Lineman Ryan Lamb would join Patric as an Asst. Coach for the Cubs. I got a big list of others that are near and dear to my heart. I will not bore everyone with an already lengthy post. Just know this. Before you bash a program or suggest a team fold tent and give up... please consider all the factors. Consider the kids that give their time and energy to 40 guaranteed Friday Nights. Consider all the work the coaches put in.. not to win but to just be competitive and not be embarrassed by a wide margin of defeat. And consider all the parents and community that desperately want a winner and who support their teams no matter what the outcome. Thanks Mike Dowell

Didn't I read a while back you were "retiring" from the GID? We'll have to change your name from DT to Brett Favre.

I realize that I am being sucked in by the resident troll, but I refuse to let the program be spoken of in such a manner. Numbers are numbers, and that is fine, but what is most important is what you don't see in the significance of the sport to the many student-athletes who participate. The community loves football and supports it dearly. Like many rural communities, Madison has been hit heavily by the drug epidemic and has one of the highest rates of suicide in the state (did you read the article??). Football is all some of these kids have, win or lose. If you follow the Hoosier Hills Conference, you will know that the schedule has in fact been adjusted to allow the smaller programs the opportunity to schedule an out of conference game. Other conference affiliations have been considered but such a move isn't as simple as it seems. There aren't many programs in southeast Indiana with which to pair. Coach Morrison is a Madison alum and has been loyal and given everything he has for the program. Someone else will come in and do the same. Regardless of record, these kids and the community will support the coach and the student-athletes that participate. These points have been argued to you many times and you fail to consider anything besides shear numbers. If that is all we ever consider, we fail the young men we try to support with this game. For some schools with very small enrollments and low participation, perhaps it is something they must consider. Madison has nearly 900 students at the high school and regularly has 60-70 kids on the team. Football isn't going anywhere, nor should it.

DT, have you ever had a positive thought even once in your entire life. It has been made abundantly clear to you the positive influences that football has in young mens lives, time and time again. Still you beat the drum of contraction as if it is the only solution. Have you volunteered at any of these “low performing” schools in an effort to turn them around? Or do you show up and tell them “You suck, I’d quit if I were you” Just venting, that’s all. Coaches coach, players play, fans cheer.

DT you might be right, but have you been to Madison? Did you read the NY Times article? I went to college in Hanover only about 5 miles away. I know the city, some of the people and the history. The student-athletes there need football. Football provides the kids an opportunity to develop a bond, friendship and brotherhood not to mention keep the kids safe. The boys learn accountability and have the football staff looking out for them. The coaches at Madison educate their student-athletes about life as much as the game of football. You and I probably view success differently. Yes they might not be win on the gridiron, but who is it to say that winning is success for this community? Just because a team doesn't win doesn't mean it isn't successful. Coaches are with these guys for a minimum of 20 hours per week in season and countless hours out of season. We are positive role models who represent what their lives could become instead of what they see everyday. I'm only 34, but when former players come up and talk to me they appreciate how much work and time I gave them.

Which is really odd since your name is Tim.

Coach Morrison was a college teammate of mine and good guy. Good luck in your new role Coach Mo! https://madisoncourier.com/Content/Sports/Sports/Article/Madison-football-coach-Patric-Morrison-resigns-to-take-assistant-athletic-director-position/18/289/115225

If I had a dime for every time someone spelled my name Brain, we'd all have a merry Christmas.

These are ripe. Fire up the Soylent Green Machine

Here is an article for a few years ago about what Coach has done. I hope in his new role he can continue to be a positive role model and make a big impact in the Madison area! https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/sports/opioids-suicide.html

Oh boy, this ought to generate another 15 pages of discussion. 😂😂😂

Thank you, now I understand. Again it has been interesting to follow your research and development. Best of luck with your endeavor.

I was talking about you....

Yep, just like the drug manufacturers who worked to increase sales and build market share for their opiod products by misrepresenting the medical evidence re the benefits of pain management on healing, or the level of addictiveness of their products. Unfortunately for them, they were not smart enough to pay the right people to get themselves immunized from liability for the damage their products have caused as a result, like the gun manufacturers have done. Look, we (collectively this forum) have been down this same path enough times before. The conversation always starts with the "guns are just a tool" argument. Then someone will make the blindingly obvious point that the manufacturers of any other consumer market tool that 1) injured and killed many people each year, yet 2) its actual utility among the people who owned it was consistently decreasing (because of the decline in hunting, less rural population, lower violent ctime rates, etc.) would have been sued out of existence a long time ago. Then, suddenly, the argument becomes about "liberty" -- who are you to tell me what I want or need? To which someone will make the again obvious point, from Poly Sci 101, that whenever humans form these things called societies, there inherently will arise conflicts between the needs, wants and desires of some individuals and the needs, wants and desires of others in that society, and that human societies have come up with lots of different ways in the course of history to resolve those conflicts, ranging from the guy with the biggest club decides, to the King appointed by God gets to decide, to hey, let's all vote on it. But that whatever method is chosen, the decision to live in society with other humans means that, one way or another, you ability to always get what you need or want is subject to limits because the "decider" in your society is not always you. And so then the conversation goes to, "Yeah but this is not just my "want". It is my right. Ever heard of the 2nd Amendment, pal? And then we all become Constitutional experts and argue about what the 2nd Amendment means.... And then we get tired and talk about the latest Trump tweet until the next time a bunch of kids get shot up....

It's been a great off season for the Rocks...... Maxes coming in. Probable starting line squat numbers are: 655, 600, 545, 545 and 475. We got some Beef!! Strength Coach Tavio Henson has done an Awesome Job!!!

Sad that no one sees the negative effects of constant teacher turnover. I taught at my first school for many years, I knew the kids, the brothers, the sisters, parents, coached kids in multiple sports and at multiple levels. The relationships you develop cannot be understated. I could get kids to do things they didn't want to do, just because I asked them to, sometimes just with a look. Fast forward, I'm at my 2nd teaching job (in Michigan) and I've only been here a couple of years. I like the kids and they like me, but its not the same. Takes years and years to become part of a community or school system that is the community in a lot of rural areas. Deeply bothers me that those relationships are being robbed from Indiana's youth.

To me, that is part of the plan. The ultimate goal is to make it so teaching is not a career; that most will stay for somewhere around 3-5 years, at most. The thinking is that the high turnover rate will weaken the membership numbers in ISTA. what is sad is what price they have decided to pay to reach that goal.

What about an unintended consequence: Teachers go to these externships and find a better opportunity to make more outside of education and more teachers leave the field.... Food for thought.............

It appears Muncie central has hired it's new head coach. Good luck coach Lee Star Press: Muncie Central chooses new football head coach https://www.thestarpress.com/story/sports/2019/05/15/ihsaa-football-muncie-central-picks-new-head-varsity-coach/3680896002/

Thank you!

Assistant Athletic Director at Madison

As long as one party controls the state of Indiana things will continue to go the way they are going: Get In Line!!! Indiana does not have a checks-and-balance system, as the same with some other states. This is not a slap at Republicans or Democrats but how things seam to work. When one party controls everything for several years this is what happens. Just my opinion.

Yep. Asks where my nearest sibling lives. I thought I knew. Evidently I don't .

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Western Boone is getting Turf this summer

Sound like the argument of "Stakeholder Capitalism" vs. "Shareholder Capitalism".

So what is the solution? More government wage controls? Guaranteed basic income? Or perhaps the solution would be for "family units" to cut expenses. "Back in the day" we didn't have $100+ family cell phone plans, $100+ cable tv/internet bills, $100+ fees for our kids to participate in sports, etc.

And who is forcing these individuals to work for these companies that "treat their employees like 💩. "? What do you feel the minimum hourly wage should be in the USA?

https://spectator.org/government-is-trying-to-control-cancer-treatment-costs-it-will-fail/ Yet another counter-productive example of government interference in the free market. Shocking.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/15/723518379/u-s-births-fell-to-a-32-year-low-in-2018-cdc-says-birthrate-is-at-record-level So whose going to pay for all those federal entitlements like social security and medicare? No babies means no new wage slaves having the fruits of their labor confiscated for redistribution. Is immigration the answer?