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If there is one thing I have learned in my time of following GID and then joining the forum it is this: it is incredibly shortsighted of me, having never played football, coached football, or officiated football to sit in the stands or stand on the sideline during the game and believe that my opinion or perspective of any particular play is the correct and absolute opinion or perspective. As to officiating I would ask how do you expect another human being to make 100’s if not 1000’s of split second decisions during the course of a game and get every one of them right. If we take the low number of 100 and say they miss 5 calls during a game. That is still a 95% success rate. I doubt any of us can claim that success rate on our daily tasks, yet we expect it of semi-volunteer people just like us every week. I hope we never put the underpaid individuals, that offer their time and physical strength to make this game as fair as it is, on a podium so we can question every call that we didn’t like. That would be the ultimate insult a real slap in the face. Players play, Coaches coach, Officials officiate, and Fans cheer. I’m a fan!

This has been printed and Posted at the Tennis Complex: The disrespect towards the racketted Bombers will be met with a fury of forehands that the Jays have not seen before. You've been warned

I feel like most people can agree with @Muda69 on this one....

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. commonly attributed to Abraham Lincoln

No.. he just told you the facts of what happened.

The whole idea of HS officials having to do media to hold themselves accountable is so asinine. We are talking HIGH SCHOOL here folks. HIGH SCHOOL

This was one of the most surprising aspects to me when I started officiating. The first time you step on the field or court and have to watch the game differently you realize how little you know and how much you have to focus on the specific play. You don't care about the outcome of the play and just hope you can survive and not get hurt. The more you work the better you get but one thing that doesn't change is you don't care about the outcome of the play or game. It's also why the crew doesn't get excited at the end of a thrilling game. They are just plays and it doesn't matter the outcome.

There are many things as a Bremen fan I like about the NIC. The games are all close. No drive any any sport is more than 50 minutes. I like competing against Marian. We never had a private school on our football schedule. I like Riley. Bremen and Riley communties have been linked for years and we never competed against each other. The drive down Miami Road is easy. Bremen and Riley folks shopped at the same stores (Scotsdale Mall, Venture, Menards), had dinner at the same resturants (Steak and Shake, Hacienda, Texas Roadhouse, the old Chik-Fil-a in the mall), went to the same movie theatres (Showplace 16, bowled in the same bowling alleys (Chippewa). Yeah, Bremen is a rural community but have always been very much in the umbrella of the southside of South Bend. I like the fact that the schools compete against each other, and hopefully Riley enjoys the games with Bremen.

High school sports should be fun. Unfortunately in today's society many schools opt for the no fun allowed policy. And then everyone wonders why students don't show up.

I'll be interested to see if Mark Newell (East's principal) rescinds his "no fun" policy for the students this week. It was evident vs North that the kids are afraid to do anything to show spirit. Their theme was originally "Fight Night", wearing MMA/Boxing type apparel, but Newell told them they couldn't wear that. The reason? It was "insensitive" to North's coaches sideline fight in 2017. He came on the announcements the next day and told the kids that they were not allowed to chant "You Can't Do That" after a penalty, nor could they chant "Why So Quiet" to North's students if we were ahead and they were quiet. The best? If North started a "We've Got Spirit...." back and forth, our kids weren't allowed to engage, as it could be seen as taunting. I witnessed Newell scream, yes scream, at a couple of kids who dared to break his rules. A lot of parents are completely fed up with his draconian rules (several started a "You Can't Do That" chant to spite Newell). There was no energy from our students to get East hyped. I think someone said something to Newell at half, as the kids were allowed to start a "We've Got Spirit" chant, but by then, many kids had left. Hopefully, the kids are allowed to bring the energy this week vs Pickerington!

If you are going to fire/suspend high school officials for incorrect calls you'll see an even larger shortage of officials. We are not D1 or NFL officials for a reason. We will make mistakes. None of them are intentional. I would recommend Potluck attend one of our weekly association meetings or attend a video review session with a crew or tag along with a crew on a Friday night. I bet his/her eyes would be opened wide.

https://t.co/uHDNyaIX7e Mevis' game winner from Michigan City in case anyone missed it

WW did not attempt to run up the score. I am sure that their staff can vouch for that. We utilized the mercy rule as intended and subbed generously in the second the half. Young players carried the ball behind a mixed line (1st year varsity players that needed more reps and JV players capable of blocking without endangering those in the backfield). The 4th quarter was entirely young players. It was respectful throughout to assume otherwise is offensive. This thread has always been very respectful with contributions from fans and coaches. I hope it stays that way or I will not be visiting the site any longer.

I believe this is the philosophy of many crews. "Call the obvious", "make it be there", "whales not minnows" are a few of the phrases officials utilize in their pre-games. Safety fouls follow a different philosophy. However, there are those coaching staffs and fans who also voice their displeasure with the lack of flags thrown (against the other team of course).

Dog Gone It Warrior, you know its spelled WOLFS! Now get your head in the ball game!

I have seller's remorse now that the game is here: Wish we were going instead of taking the pay day. Oh well NOW THIS:

It would seem for Penn to be Independent in Football would be a night mare for them in scheduling, travel, and revenue. How many schools in Indiana would have an open date after week 2 -3 and want to schedule them Could you see them scheduling: Valpo, Elkhart, Mishawaka, Cincy St. X, Moeller, Cleve St. Ed, St Ignatius, + 2 more would be brutal and the distance - not sure there is a solution there. What would happen if all of the schools less 3-4 SB schools, Elkhart, Penn formed a new conference and added Culver?

There one heck of a team and there well Coached!! Go Tigers beat Plymouth... I hope them english teachers at Warsaw teach them kids how to use "There"!! As you can tell I have yet to figure it out.

As if ANYONE needs another reason not to shop at Wal-Mart. Main reason I don’t shop there is too many people at the first of the month when I go to spend my hard earned Muda dollars.

I had the opportunity to sit on the same computer that he had used at the Bloomington Herald-Times when I was there in 2014-15. He is a legend. He automated many processes in the late 1980s and 1990s via computer and we would occasionally have to call him in to "update" his old scripts for the newspaper. His work in Java (.json and Regex) really taught me that not everything has to be complicated and served as my inspiration for the Predictor Tool. He was going to introduce me to Jeff Sagarin, but we never had schedules which match up. Oh well, next time that I'm in Bloomington perhaps we'll be able to do it. The IHSAA, coaches and officials' associations, principals, ADs and fans owe him more than the measley ad revenue he earns through the website.

Yes, a loss is a loss, unless your name is Jeff Sagarin!

I guess we'll still show up this Friday even though LaVille has it won.

As a coach who has competed against both programs in my career, I can tell you that both programs are well coached and usually well prepared for each game. Year in and out they both usually have solid athletes and each program has a solid tradition, but I would give the edge in most categories to Pioneer at this point. I believe its their game to lose. Furthermore I would never say that any team could not beat any other team, on the contrary I do see LaVille's chances as pretty good. I'm just not convinced that they are good enough. Good luck to both teams in what looks to be a heavily followed match.

I became a basketball official after making the move back to the classroom from the AD role. I said my purpose in becoming an official was to help out at the younger levels, 5-6, 7-8, Frosh and JV. After doing this for 3 seasons, I have great respect for the officials who do varsity sports. I also have great respect for those doing it for a long time. Fans are completely disrespectful! I will gladly listen to a coach and to some extent a player, but when I hear it from fans, I don't go back. My goal is to help fill the official shortage, but $50-70 a night is not worth being yelled at or saying I screwed their team. I am reffing younger kids, I really don't care who wins. As far as accountability, I know the varsity and JV officials talk and ask each other questions in games and after games to make sure the rules, calls and technique is correct.

Not even sure HE can help you weeks 1, 2 & 4!!! If you needed some fish and bread maybe..........

I am excited for the Tigers. It's good to see the NLC get more and more competitive.

Honestly I don't see what all the hub bub over this Wal Mart thing is. 1. Wal Mart hasn't sold hand guns in the lower 48 that I am aware of. 2. Local store typically has a lousy selection of guns, I would never consider buying a gun there. 3. Locally I may have bought some bulk shot gun shells from them in the past, but their selection of ammo is less than stellar, and the pricing is not that attractive. 4. They have asked people not to open carry, so what? You can still carry. Most folks don't open carry anyway. 5. Patronize your local gun shop, patronize your local businesses period. They're part of your community. Any big box is one bad quarter away from closing up.

Newsflash! Democratic candidates to compete on special edition of Jeopardy!

To me the biggest measuring stick for the HCC is if the Avon/Brownsburg sectional winner can beat the Warren Central/Center Grove regional winner in the Semi-State and advance to the State Finals.

Coach Willen passes during Homecoming week. It's only appropriate, I guess. I did not ever meet the man in person, but I had many many conversations about Warren Central with WC grad, Mike Kirschner. He mentioned Coach Willen often. I know he was the kind of teacher we all hope to be. My condolences to everyone on the Eastside and to all the players and staff. Coach Willen has the best seat in the house now. Sending you all love from the Westside. --Jon Easter

He can block the wr as long as the wr is a potential blocker to him and the ball is not in the air

Probably won't make it Tut. Have radiation at 3:30 this Friday! Had my biopsy today and I have NO esophageal cancer! The lymph node that is swollen near my esophagus hasn't invaded it. The doctor found no tissue there to take a sample. So they are going to treat the node with radiation. I guess I'll have to listen to Dan and Darren on the radio. That is some consolation. I really hate not getting to meet sbriant. He's been a good chat friend on here over the years.

Washington High School under new head Coach Stammich brought the number of players on the team to 51. I don't know how many the other schools have on their team, but this is an improvement. After reading the article about the sportsmanship between Washington and Jimtown I would think that Washington is on their way to being relevant again. Maybe Saint Joseph could learn something from Jimtown and Washington(over 100 yards again in there last game against Northridge. Yes I agree Clay should disband their whole athletic program.

I remember when there used to be a lot of chatter about the NECC on this forum. Apparently interest in these schools has waned. That's too bad. I see Fairfield02 being the only poster week after week, so I thought I'd jump in and try to help keep the interest alive. CN - I was happy to see Coach Thacker get his 1st win last week, but I think Tipton's guys will have too much for FF to handle. BUSCO - Because it's Busco RIVER VALLEY - Wild guess based on a total lack of knowledge LAKELAND - A PH win over Lakeland is an extremely rare event. ST. MARY'S - They are traditionally a Michigan power WN - They may have something pretty good going on this year

Gosh, Coach Nowlin, you're a moron. $@rc@$|\/|

In the first year of the new 13 team NIC, if you take Penn out of the mix, 11 of the remaining 12 school would have won a conference title. That to me show good competitive balance. I admit none of the 12 school outside Penn would be able to beat Penn in many sports.

It's a game. Played by children.

I am curious as to how this "is showing this season". They lost to Lewis Cass by a score. 6 points. This is the current #3 AP, and #5 team in IFCA. You act like there is something wrong with the Panthers. Then they turned around and did Pioneer like things beating Winamac 50-0. I am sure LaVille is a good team. I am sure they have done good things. But, lets not go around in our first 2 weeks on the lovely GID, you can have more depth, but if your jimmy's and joe's aren't as good good as their first ones, you can only put 5 OL at the field at once!

From a football perspective, I agree that SB Schools as a whole are definitely one of the weaker links in the NIC. That being said, they are also some of the most competitive schools year in and year out in Basketball, Track, Swimming, Wrestling, Baseball, and even Cross Country. As a complete conference, there is little reason to see a team like New Prairie or even Mishawaka leave the NIC, (and from what I have heard many parents and boosters are not happy with the travel times and loss of rivalries). If Mishawaka had stayed, and you have the new Elkhart School, the NIC north would be as good as almost any conference top to bottom. The question is, how do Glenn, Jimtown, Clay, Washington, and Bremen consistently compete in more sports.

I have to disagree with you guys on some of the competitive aspects of the NIC. Marian, New Prairie, Penn, Mishawaka, and Bremen have all represented Northern Indiana down in the Semi State or Regional Championship games in the last 4 years. Add to that, Riley appears to be consistently winning the games they should be winning, just need to get over the hump against some of the solid programs (Marian NP Mishawaka) to take that next step. Unfortunately alot of the schools up here only make a run when they have that 25 kid senior class, and hopefully some of that starts to change. When looking at teams like Jimtown, Bremen, John Glenn I see young staffs and young teams that will begin to turn the corner in a year or two. Adams just feels like they have the numbers and cant do anything with them. Washington and Clay are another story altogether. One of the biggest omissions from your original post though is the new Elkhart school which should be LOADED with talent starting next year. So that being said, the North should be great competition between NP, Penn, and Elkhart for the next few years. Moving Marian up to the North really hurts the South part of the conference leaving only Jimtown, Riley, and Bremen as the only teams with winning records on a consistent basis next year.

I'm with Fine Print and Marshall County here . . . Pioneer is the champ and will be the HNAC champ until determined otherwise. Pioneer-LaVille have played 5 times . . . Panthers won all five ... PHS outscored LaVille 244 to 40. A year ago, it was 66-19 at Pioneer, and a couple scores for LaVille did come off the pass. LaVille has been blown out. I recall the first time LaVille played Pioneer and Pioneer came running down the field on kick-off and LaVille players were not expecting the hard-nosed, physical play that the Panthers brought to the field. I saw the game on the internet. This is a 'program defining' game for LaVille. Right now, I see Pioneer by 3 scores. as always, the game is better from_the_sidelines007

I didn't see what happened and don't care to comment on it. As @JustRules said, a replaced player has 3 seconds to begin to leave the field. The foul is illegal substitution. The situation you describe I've seen happen many times, if the replaced player begins to leave in a timely manner (no I don't do a count, I'm not going to split hairs was it 2.8 seconds or was it 3.4), we let it go.

Believe that title belongs to SB Clay my friend

There is no foul in HS for breaking the huddle with 12. That's an NCAA (and possibly NFL) rule. The NFHS rule says that a replaced player must leave within 3 seconds of the substitute entering. The player becomes a substitute when he communicates with any player or gets into formation. If the 12th player enters the huddle just before they break and the replaced player leaves as part of that it's not a foul. The same applies to no huddle teams. If they are lingering for more than 3 seconds with 12 players the official could flag illegal substitution. Depending on how the different groups are lingering it may be tricky to get the count, but it should be easier with the offense. There is a separate requirement for all subs to get inside the 9-yard marks (usually marked by the top of the numbers) before the snap. It's mostly to prevent hide-out plays so most crews don't get that technical if the sub is matched up or obvious to the defense. Based on your description if there are more than 11 players lingering between the backs and receivers for more than 3 seconds they are gaining an advantage as you describe. It should be flagged. Depending on what else is happening there is no guarantee the officials are counting at that point. There are several other things they have to do between plays. I suggest pointing it out to the official on your sideline so he is at least more alert to it.

My gut says Pioneeer. But Coach Howtrawser has a system building. This is a program defining game for LaVille. What LaVille has done in the last 6 years or so in athletics has been impressive. A lot of positives taking place there beside just football.

John is a great guy. Very quiet, very reserved, very much a behind-the-scenes person when he was running the incredible Bloomington Herald-Times sports section. And he's done more for HS football (and hoops) than just about any.