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On 11/25/2023 at 3:10 PM, JQWL said:
This might fall victim to an equal protection lawsuit. Orgs like the IHSAA, although formally private, are considered under law to be state actors.
As I recall, putting p/p’s in a separate class was put forward when the success factor was implemented. And the IHSAA received legal advice that it could be susceptible to litigation.
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14 minutes ago, Bobref said:
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”
Lewis Carrol’s Through the Looking Glass😅😂🤣
I must say...when I woke up this morning, I surely didn't expect to find Lewis Carrol quotes on GID. Well done!
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1 minute ago, MHS4Life said:
Whatever you say Boss.
Words have specific definitions. They’re not up for debate, opinion, interpretation.
A transfer is when a kid moves from one IHSAA member HS to another one - not when they go from a particular grade school or Jr High to a HS.
This isn’t my opinion.
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1 minute ago, MHS4Life said:
Bryant, Johnson, Kendrick, Vaughn and probably a few others. Most of these grew up in another school district and then transferred to Memorial in High School.
What you’re describing is not a transfer.
Both Bryant cousins, yes, did transfer to Memorial.
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3 minutes ago, Dawgs said:
Give Bosse coaching staff the talent Reitz has, they’ll still be playing. Can’t give coach of the year to someone who has all those transfers and can’t win when it matters. Now Hurley, I agree with.
One thing I’ve appreciated about Bosse throughout the struggles they’ve had in recent years — with very few kids coming out, etc. — is that those kids show up every game and compete hard until the whistle blows.
I’ve even remarked to people I was with more than once that, as an opposing fan, I was proud of them. It would be so easy to just hang your heads and phone it in.
Coaching has to be a part of that.
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1 hour ago, WWFan said:
So what about the opposite problem? When a team is more then just a good player or class. LCC and Lutheran don't play a single 1A team and im sure both know neither would. Both routinely punch above their class. Lutheran beat #1 2A by 30. Do you just say "you've proved your above it....stay in 2A until your team has a win % around .300 over a 4 yr span"?
Also before someone starts giving a history lesson im just listing them 2 since they have been only teams just have these types of dynasties since I've paid close attention. Sheridan was before my time and if Linton could've got over the hump more im sure I'd mention them too.
If I were the benevolent dictator of the IHSAA, I'd just categorize schools by enrollment. But I'd also get rid of classes entirely in some sports (but not football).
But, if you're going to have a success factor, then the scenario you're describing is what it's made for. I'm not saying I have the perfect answer for how to accomplish this. I think IFCA recommended it be on a 4-year cycle rather than a 2-year. That seems to make more sense to me -- because it requires the school to punch above its weight for an ongoing period before moving up.
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2 minutes ago, MHSTigerFan said:
The Evansville Diocese has something like 7 or 8 grade schools in the Evansville area (plus a couple others outside EVV).
The metro area schools feed either into MD or Memorial. It’s not very complicated.
Not all of the students who graduate from one of these grade schools go to MD or MHS. But most of them do. Our roster lists each player’s grade school - and 90+% went to one of these. We also get some kids from Holy Name in Henderson, which is actually part of the Owensboro Diocese.
I should add that there is a financial component to this between the parishes attached to each of those feeder schools and MD/Memorial. I think they all work slightly differently on how much HS tuition subsidy they pay on behalf of each parish student. But most of them kick in some.
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1 minute ago, First_Backer_Inside said:
Okay, so explain to me how the feeder school works. Because from my understanding, most p/p's don't have their very own feeder. The feeder school can go to multiple p/p schools in an area.
The Evansville Diocese has something like 7 or 8 grade schools in the Evansville area (plus a couple others outside EVV).
The metro area schools feed either into MD or Memorial. It’s not very complicated.
Not all of the students who graduate from one of these grade schools go to MD or MHS. But most of them do. Our roster lists each player’s grade school - and 90+% went to one of these. We also get some kids from Holy Name in Henderson, which is actually part of the Owensboro Diocese.
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1 hour ago, Lysander said:
I agree. The success factor still needs tweaking but I believe it’s the best solution. I strongly disagreed at its inception, admittedly.
I don’t think they should do it at all, really. Just let teams compete and let the chips fall where they may.
But, if they’re going to do it, they need to figure out a way around the problem of a team having an uncharacteristic run of success based on an abnormally good class or two. That kind of shafts the normal classes that come up behind them.
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41 minutes ago, Whiting89 said:
I hope hs associations become more like ncaa and allow open transfers and recruiting
I’m in favor of the IHSAA relaxing (but not removing) its rules on transfers. As for recruiting, I guess that depends what you mean by that.
But, whatever they do, they have to become more consistent.
I think the IHSAA has become corrupted. Not in the sense of taking bribes, etc. - but in the sense of being selective about their enforcement….and their selectivity usually seems to find its way back to their stated objective of leveling out success.
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3 hours ago, Irishman said:
Wise decision……this is not the place for it. Report it though to the AD. The challenge in a number of situations has been getting AD’s or other school/district administrators to follow through with reporting.
The player in question is one of my son’s best friends. I encouraged him to report it. He didn’t want to - which I understood. And I certainly don’t think it’s my place to do so.
I was just surprised at how blatant it was - and the fact the coach felt comfortable doing it in writing, no less.
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59 minutes ago, tango said:
You mean Reitz? Call it what it is...Look at the roster of Harrison when they won the Sectional. It's the business model...
I won’t names names here, even if I probably should.
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I personally saw a text message sent from the Head Coach of school X to a player at school Y blatantly encouraging him to transfer.
I could hardly believe my eyes.
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7 hours ago, tango said:
I agree. EC is that good, but at least Reitz is turning in equipment on Monday. #discipline
Yeah, as impressive and disciplined as EC was last year, it would appear they’ve only gotten better.
I said all along that I have a hard time imagining anybody else in 4A beating them. But, let’s lace ‘em up.
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6 hours ago, FootballFan2000 said:
When does Brunson’s seat get hot at Reitz? 18-0 regular season, 3-2 post season. Inexcusable to lose to that version of memorial for the undefeated SIAC champion
Coaches who have two consecutive undefeated regular seasons (and conference championships to go with them, of course) don’t have hot seats.
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5 minutes ago, Rodney said:
who's home/away
I don't envision this being a close game
But I hope it is, I respect EM program and really like how you make the GS fans Whine
The game is in Evansville.
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7 minutes ago, Tippy said:
The East Central game wasn't fun. East Central will probably win state 47-0, just like they did tonight.
Yeah, they’re ridiculously good.
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Given how rocked Memorial was by the loss of Fisher, this might be one of the best coaching jobs of John Hurley’s career - after getting blown out by Reitz just a few weeks ago.
Reitz made so many mental mistakes for this late in the season. You just can’t do that in post-season.
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On 9/19/2023 at 5:35 AM, TransplantedPanther said:
As I remember, nobody was beating Cathedral in 2007 and 2009 as well. Let’s wait until the games are actually played, shall we?
Yes, there’s a reason they actually play the games.
I should amend that to say that I would be very surprised if anybody in 4A beat them this year. They were really, really good last year. And they returned most of their key guys.
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26 minutes ago, combthehair said:
Thank you. I had heard they were good but damn!!!
Nobody in 4A is going to beat EC.
Put it this way: Cincy Moeller beat Dwenger something like 57-0. 6A Center Grove needed OT to beat Moeller by 1.
EC beat Moeller 38-28.
EC was phenomenal last year. And they returned a lot of kids.
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1 hour ago, Screagle said:
What a stupid comment to make without the information. Has nothing to do with his ligament. Small fracture at the head of the elbow. He’s not ruled out for the season and is 110% committed to getting back by seasons end and playing next season.
Well, OK. I was just passing along what I was told by somebody in the program. It’s entirely possible what I was told was wrong.
So, thanks for clearing it up.
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3 minutes ago, MDAlum82 said:
Jasper drives for go ahead TD. 28 to 21
Is this same injury from MD game, just before half?
I would assume so. But that’s all I know.
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2 minutes ago, MDAlum82 said:
Jasper with a pick down to MD 28
Sorry to learn about this. Good kid, good player. What happened?
UCL - elbow. It’s the “Tommy John” ligament.
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10 hours ago, Football Fanatic said:
If the QB is still banged up, who would you guess suits up behind center for the Tigers? One of their listed backups? Or maybe one of their skills guys like Schulz/Ellspermann?
Fisher is out for the season.
The p/p hegemony continues unabated
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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“We just work harder”, I agree with you. That’s nonsense.
But culture is a real thing in any organization - and it is a huge, huge deal. Peter Drucker popularized the saying “Culture eats strategy for breakfast” (with regards to businesses) and he did so for a reason. It may sound like TED Talk BS. But it really isn’t.
The problem with it is that it’s a helluva lot easier said than done. You can’t just have a coaches retreat and collectively decide “We’re going to establish a winning culture this year.”