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  1. 19 minutes ago, Piratefan101 said:

    You realize Andrean is moving into crown point right? At least according the the survey they sent home to parents asking about the move 

    AND? 

    1. Andrean has donated land from the Franciscans and that's about it. You really think with less and less people attending church these days they are going to raise enough capital to build a school and athletic complex? Only hardcore Catholics pony up that kind of cash.  People willing to pay tuition to give their kid a better athletic experience for four years aren't going to donate huge sums for a complex that won't be completed until after their kid graduates. That's a pipedream. 

    2. But, let's go with it.  They build it and double their enrollment to a fringe 3A/4A school by siphoning off CP kids (it is not up for debate that "stealing" CP kids would have to be their primary means of increasing enrollment).  It still begs the question of why CP would play them when their goal is to compete with the Indy schools. They can just simply make the drive down 65 and play one of them. 

    3. I'm not naïve.  If Lowell can't pull of a W every few years, CP may have no choice but to dump them too. 

    P.S.  You can't really believe there's only 10 6A teams better than Andrean?  They got beat by a very average Lowell team Week 9. 

  2. 21 minutes ago, scarab527 said:

    Except Andrean actually gave CP somewhat of a game. And this year, just like last year, the Niners are still playing, while the Devils are home. 

    So by your logic Andrean is better than Lowell because they gave CP a close game even though Lowell beat them?  Don't be so butt hurt, I was just making a statement that CP dumping Andrean from their schedule is far more likely than dropping Lowell because:

    1. It's the state's oldest rivalry

    2. It's a huge gate Week 1 for the host team

    3. It's a natural geographic rival

    4. CP has nothing to gain from playing a 2A Catholic school. And, yes, they are a dominant 2A team but a 2A team nonetheless.  But if you think CP is better off playing the 59ers over an Indy team (even if they have to travel), then you're just being stubborn and/or stupid. 

    Douchebag comments like yours are the reason most Region fans don't root for Andrean in the playoffs. Lastly, if you're going to use the "we're still playing card," Lowell might not be the program to use it on. 

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  3. Who has CP played?  Their entire schedule was Region teams, only two of which were 6A and neither (LC and Portage) were a challenge.  CP will win the Sectional and then it gets interesting.  But long term, CP is going to have to find a bigger/better week 2 opponent. Their staff and admin isn't dumb, I'm sure they know this. Lowell in week 1 is too big a rivalry to take off the schedule unless things get out of hand in the future. The DAC itself is a potential long term problem.  CP is the only school with increasing enrollment. The rest are growth neutral or on the decline.  

  4. 2 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

    You seriously don't believe in an open transfer market that the best and highest level athletes won't naturally gravitate to the best one or two area teams? I find that extremely hard to believe. It's not what the IHSAA wants nor is it conducive to high school athletics. This is why club sports and AAU exist outside of IHSAA sanctioned events. There's no need to integrate the two. 

    Exhibit A: Crown Point Wrestling. 

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  5. 8 minutes ago, Obi-Wan said:

    First off if by "Patriots" you mean protecting Title IX and women's sports... So be it. Also your second statement about a child or grandchild being transgender comes off like your wishing cancer on someone.  

    It's you're. So you're equating a person being transgender as having a potentially life threatening illness?

  6. Just now, DE said:

    Man.  Right on cue.  Ole woke @gonzoron comes in w/ his "sit and spin reaction".  So tolerant of you.  Oh the irony.  You are only tolerant if it fits your narrative.  Isn't that right?

    Speaking of irony and (in)tolerance, how ironic will it be if one of the "patriots" on this post ends up having a transgender child or grandchild? This thread is an embarrassment and it's my sincere hope one of the moderators removes it soon. 

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  7. 28 minutes ago, DT said:

    Regardless of long time rivalry ties, it just does not make sense for a highly aspirational 6A program to play down to 4A and 2A in non con play.  Cant convince me of that.  CP will soon be over 3000 students.  Lowell has 1100.  This is a lose lose proposition for CP.  Win and it was expected.  Lose and you are a bum for losing to a much smaller school.  

    Beyond the fact it's one of Indiana's oldest rivalries (some say the oldest), you are overlooking a very important fact as to why the CP-Lowell rivalry will remain:   Economics! Lowell fans travel better than any other team in the Region.

    Plus, the kids are just getting back to school, it's week one of the HS season, the CP kids love to dress up as farmers to tweak the Lowell kids, etc. The stands are PACKED.  You need to lighten up old man and realize competition isn't everything!  If you weren't such a curmudgeon I'd invite you to the game at the Inferno next year as a side trip to visit your family.  It's a top 10 Indiana HS Friday night atmosphere IMO. 

     

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  8. 1 hour ago, DACNUT said:

    Move them in for everything, not just for football. These schools  play each other at a high level in many sports, mainly Penn, but I'm sure Elkhart soon, at the regional levels and it only makes sense to do more than football. 

    As for East West, Michigan City and LaPorte were long time members of the NIC with Penn and Elkhart before the DAC was formed. 

    Lake Central to Penn is 85 miles.  LC to Elkart is over 90.  That sounds like loads of fun for a mid-week swimming or wrestling meet. The kids can do their homework on the way there since it will be too dark on the way back....

    I bet the many LC parents who work in Chicago will love the drive after commuting through city traffic.

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  9. Just to put some enrollment numbers into the scenario (these are on another thread and Morton and Hammond's are after the presumed consolidations):

    Andrean - 348

    Highland - 1061

    Hobart - 1264

    KV - 1015

    Lowell - 1092

    Munster - 1572

    Hanover - 748

    Hammond - 1596 (5A)

    Morton - 2063 (6A)

     

    A "closed" conference is NOT happening.  This was done 20+ years ago.  It was called the LAC and it was a mess. OUM states it well: Conference affiliations are about three things - gate revenue, participation across three levels in all sports and the ease of scheduling that comes with said participation.  I'll speak from Lowell's perspective from the standpoint of a fan who wants them to do well - Morton is a great football opponent.  What an awesome way to start your season against three 6A opponents in CP, Portage and Morton (this is why I LOVE the all in playoff format). If you believe adversity makes you stronger, playing those three to start your season does it. 

    Finally, in regard to Hanover,  keep in mind it encompasses a decent portion of St. John.  South of 231 is exploding with growth. I can envision them being 4A in less than 5 years.

     

  10. 1 hour ago, DT said:

    Why?

    Two simple reasons:

    1. It is and always will be about the $$$. Hammond schools do not travel well. 
    2. Conference memberships are about more than football. Morton would certainly be competitive on the gridiron.  But, they would bring very little to cross country, volleyball, track, golf, tennis, etc. Same reasons for the breakup of the LAC 20+ years ago. 
  11. 1 hour ago, Bobref said:

    With Hammond being open enrollment, Morton was already getting most of the players. Arguably, with the closure of Gavit and Clark, and their brand new facility, Hammond High is more likely to be on the rise than Morton.

    I don't see current Morton players leaving for Hammond High, but you never know.  Hammond, Clark and Gavit have had zero recent success so other than the shiny new facilities (maybe that's enough?), what is the draw athletically? Excluding the "Rippy" one year fiasco, Morton has also had a much more stable coaching situation. 

     

    1 hour ago, DT said:

    Agree

    The new Hammond Central High School will be a state of the art high school structure with all the amenities required to support 21st century modern education.  Morton will probably lose some kids to HC.  Both HM and HC are likely to be 5A football schools, which completely transforms the post season makeup of region football.  As we have discussed before, The NCC would be a great fit for both Morton and Central moving forward.

    You can keep on pushing this scenario but it isn't happening.  If the NCC expands, Hanover Central and Wheeler make way more sense. 

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  12. 21 hours ago, Brickie Rickie said:

    Jealousy -- it's an ugly thing. BRICKS DON'T BREAK!

    I am certainly not rooting against the Brickies, and would be happy to eat crow on here Saturday morning.  But, they are not going to be able to pound the rock like they did last week, and stopping the Rebel run game is no small task.  Offensively, they are going to have to find ways to get Vode the ball in space - jets, bubble screens, etc. He's an absolute stud IMO, but I do not see the fade jump balls working against a good/prepared defense. The Brickies are going to have to put up at least 28 pts on Roncalli to have a chance.  Throw in the fact Roncalli will be sleeping in their own beds, have faced a much tougher road to LOS, and I presume some of their coaches were on staff in 2016 and know how to keep kids' emotions in check this week,  a 28-35 point margin of victory is reasonable.  Still going 42-7 Rebels. 

  13. 3 minutes ago, Gipper said:

    The NCC is a good league at the Brickies rep them well.  They did go down to Merrillville earlier in the season and they’re Sectional final game against Lowell was nowhere close to the bloodbath everybody and their mother (notwithstanding yours truly) was expecting.  I do like the Bricks’ chances, though.

    The NCC has become a 3 team league (Andrean, Hobart, Lowell). KV was decent at the beginning, but faded after the tough loss to Lowell.  Hobart didn't face a challenge in the regular season after week 5.  They would be better served playing Andrean and Lowell later in their conference slate.  Playing two 6A's to start the season is fantastic, but there's no meat on the bone at the end. 

  14. 48 minutes ago, The TW said:

    After watching film, Hobart’s Sagarin ranking is not indicative of their ability. Not only are they a very talented team, they play with a sense of urgency that few of our opponents have displayed. It’s clear that these kids want to bring back the program’s glory. I predict this game will be a war. 

    Time for some honesty: 

    IMO, Hobart had a much stronger team last year, and this year's road through the North was essentially a joke (not their fault,  the SF makes it what it is).  They only had one tight game, and the opponent was without their stud RB. This is THE senior class Hobart has been banking on to get them back to the title game. Congrats on getting there, which is a huge accomplishment, but this game will not be close.  42-7 Roncalli. 

  15. Let me preface my statement by saying I have no dog in this fight and have ZERO opinion one way or the other if Southwood plays.  But, if what I've read in this thread is true, how is this possible and someone please enlighten me? According to every CDC, State and Local Board of Health guideline I've read, a close contact results in a 14 day quarantine, period.  A negative test during that 14 day period is irrelevant because close contact individuals are still in a contagious/incubation state. So are the Southwood kids contacts of contacts?  That's the only thing that would make sense here.  If Southwood plays, good for them. But I feel sorry for all the other teams/individuals who had to forfeit their seasons due to the 14 day rule.  If you really want to get people angry, changing rules midstream is a surefire way to do it.  

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  16. 1 hour ago, Bobref said:

    At The Inferno? Egad, man! You’ve taken leave of your senses!

    Rumor has it the Devils are not at full strength with quite a few players still under quarantine (15+ I was told).  A lot of young players are going to see their first action under the Friday Night Lights.  Kudos to the kids and staff for not postponing and going with a "next man up" mentality.  

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