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  1. If they accidentally assign you to a school you've already seen in the playoffs they will make a swap. But they aren't looking at regular season teams when assigning playoff games. The closest we came was same home team week 9 of regular season and week 2 of playoffs. I remember a crew who not only had the same game location week 9/week 1, but also the same opponent!
  2. I don't believe there have been any double bookings. What happens is crews get assigned where they have conflicts of interest (i.e. live in the district, spouse works for the school, work with an assistant coach). These are all reported to the IHSAA prior to assignments, but they often still miss some. It's possible your game was changed to account for someone else's conflict. It happens every year, especially in the first round. There are 127 games with 635 officials being assigned so they are destined to make a couple mistakes. They correct them quickly once they are reported though.
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    Ref formation for PAT kick

    Don't forget you could have a hurdling foul if he hurdled over the player who doesn't have something other than his feet on the ground.
  4. We have 2-3 games each year that are either lost or changed because of conference realignment so the current conferences aren't staying together that much any way. If you are in the same class and the same geographic area, the likelihood of staying in the same conference/district/section are extremely high. If you end up a different conference/section/region then you still have 3-4 weeks of non-conference games to schedule so you make sure they remain in tact. The same approach could be used in all sports so it ultimately wouldn't just be a football thing. It's a pretty common method in many other states so it's not unique at all. Forming conferences like NCAA I believe is fairly unique. One thing that could be done is to not have such rigid classifications (and I'm making this up as I type it so don't give me too much grief if it's out of line). But set the initial classifications based on enrollment. Allow some movement up or down based on proposals from the schools. For example, Frankfort could try to make a case why they should be in 3A rather than 4A. And Cathedral likes 5A better than 4A for long term. Maybe set a minimum and maximum for each class enrollment wise but have some overlap. That way if a school starts in 3A but they grow significantly so they are as big as most 5A schools, they have to move up at least one class. With this approach too you don't have to have the same number of teams in each class because you would have some level of qualification. So if 4A had 72 teams and 3A had 56 teams it wouldn't matter because 32 or 48 or whatever number of teams would qualify. This would also provide for more consistency year to year in the teams in your conference/district/section and you could more easily schedule those non-conference games before the regular season starts. Just throwing some fodder out there to consider and show there are so many ways to skin this. I don't really care how Indiana does it because it doesn't affect me personally. All I know is every person I have ever told about the system used here thinks I'm making it up and there is no way a sane person would do something like this. An 0-9 team makes the playoffs? And they host a 9-0 team in the first round? And 2 undefeated teams play each other in the first round while two 1-win teams play each other in the other half of that bracket?
  5. One of the most common is to have all the teams in a conference/district/section be in the same class. This is more commonly assigned by the state and not organized independently by the schools like Indiana. The most relatable example for Indiana would be using the sectional assignments done by the IHSAA. Your schedule then includes every other team from your conference/district/section. For 5A/6A you probably use the regional level to get 8 teams. By playing every team in your conference/division/section and using a 10-week season, you have 3-4 non-conference games to schedule traditional rivals who may not be in your conference/district/section. Your qualification and/or seeding is then based on how you finished in your round robin conference/district/section play during the season. No SOS calculations. No formulas. Just on field results. If you want a qualification the top 3, 4, 5 teams qualify. Playoffs would match #4 from one section at #1 from the next section, #3 at #2 and so on. You could either do an all-in or qualifying tournament this way. The main hurdle to get over is the current conference structure wouldn't exist for football. Conferences seem to realign all the time so I'm not sure this is as big an issue as some make it out to be. Scheduling would be a little more involved, but there are many ways creative minds could address that.
  6. I wouldn't call it that either. It's really easy to get involved because we are calling around most weeks trying to find subs to fill in on crews during the season. Tournament advancement is a different beast with coach's rating playing a key factor. And I still wouldn't call that an ole boy system. The crews that know the most coaches definitely benefit because they get a lot more votes (and usually positive votes) and advance the furthest, but someone could still advance with fewer votes as long as they are all positive. They just have a much smaller margin of error. The ole' boys network would imply someone gets in a room and decides who works and who doesn't. That doesn't occur.
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    Ref formation for PAT kick

    This is one of the huge drawbacks of 5-man mechanics. Some states have gone to keeping the wings on the sidelines and moving the umpire under the other upright. He'll watch action at the line immediately after the snap, but he has to quickly transition to the upright in case. The issue with this is nobody is now watching opposing players in the middle of the field where contention can happen to provide better coverage for something that RARELY happens. In my 18 years of officiating I can only remember one or 2 instances where either pylon was threatened on a try or FG. But every kick had potential contention between players so I do prefer our mechanic. It's very rare for that back side pylon to be threatened, but it can be huge if it happens, and it sounds like it did in this game.
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    play clock

    The 40 second play clock is used between two successive plays with no administrative stops and accounts for the time it takes to unpile players and get the ball in position for the next play. Generally the ball is spotted and the umpire steps away with 25-30 seconds left so it's effectively the same as the old 25 second clock which started when the R blew his whistle after the ball was spotted. If there is an administrative stop for a time out, injury, measurement, etc. then the play clock is set to 25 and started when the ball is ready for play. The game clock will start based on the result of the previous play. If it was an incomplete pass or runner out bounds, it would start on the snap. If it was a run that ended in bounds, it would start on the ready for play. I think I'm understanding what you are getting at though. You were on offense and trying to kill clock at the end of the game. A defensive player was "injured" and thus the game clock stopped quickly after the previous play. Rather than being able to burn 40 seconds before snapping it you were only able to burn 25-28 (depending on how quickly the injury was recognized. This is why NCAA does set the play clock to 40 following a defensive injury or defensive player losing his helmet (regardless of game time or score). A team could gain a clock advantage due to injury. If the 40-second play clock is approved I would expect something similar could be added to the HS rule.
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    Local Refs of NWI

    I've found many coaches who get into officiating do very well. They understand the game both from a player and coach perspective. Your biggest surprise will be, "wow, I didn't realize how little I knew or understood the rules." You will probably find it less stressful than coaching, especially once you become more comfortable on the field. I wish you the best of luck and hope you love it! And one thing I always tell people...it's harder than you realize, but once you get a good foundation of experience it's easier than you think. But it's a process.
  10. I do. I deduct all mileage throughout the year for games, meetings, and clinics. To simplify it for playoffs I just do one way rather than round trip. The Schedule C only asks for mileage. With mileage, dues, clinic registration, and equipment, I usually come out as a wash regarding reported income. The IRS is probably wondering why I've had a business for almost 20 years with very little income and showing a loss most years.
  11. 96 in round 2 48 in sectional final 24 in regional final 12 in semi-state 6 in state Most of the crews (75%) who get a 1st round game (128) will get a 2nd round game (96). Then it starts to drop off quickly.
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    False Start/Offsides

    Personal foul and unsportsmanlike conduct are two separate fouls. The former involves contact and the latter doesn't. They carry the same enforcement in many cases, but the unsportsmanlike conduct foul is more severe as two result in an automatic ejection. What you described would be a personal foul if it was deemed excessive or unnecessary. Both are dead ball fouls so they will be enforced in the order they occurred. The exception to that is the same number of dead ball 15-yard penalties by both teams offset. So if one team had 3 15-yard penalties and the other team had 1, 2 of them would still be enforced. In this case you had a 5-yarder and a 15-yarder. The false start would be enforced first and then the 15-yarder.
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    First downs moving the chains

    In NCAA referees are instructed to wind the clock with about 35 seconds on the play clock after a first down. For them it also applies on runs out of bounds unless under 2 minutes remaining in the half. The idea is to keep the clock moving. You'll be a little more conservative in toward the end of a half in a close game seconds become more important.
  14. As of now there is no centralized scheduling system used across all schools. They tried to do it in Arbiter with the officials entering their own schedules, but the IHSAA found some officials were not including games where they knew they may get a negative vote from one of the schools. I believe this was happening in basketball and baseball and they use the same system in all sports so they removed that option and went back to the all-vote-for-all system. One of the goals of the new myihsaa.net is to get to the ability to have a centralized schedule tracking system so at least it limits schools to only vote for the crews/officials who have worked at that school recently. I believe last year about 142 crews applied and there were around 130 first round games. If the issue for this year that means there are only 106 crews that applied which would be surprising. One thing Bobby Cox shared with us at the IOA meeting this Fall was if the number of schools drops below 320 this year during reclassification they would go back to 5A and 6A having a bye during week 5 of the tournament rather than week 1. If that's true then they would need closer to 155-160 crews for the first week next year. 24 less than that would be 130-135 which seems more consistent with last year.
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    40 Second Clock

    There were 3 states I believe experimenting through last year. It only failed by a couple votes last year. A few more states are experimenting this year. One is Tennessee. The southern states often vote together so if it's positive for them they can possibly swing the vote of other states and get it to pass. One of the options is to propose state adoption like the shot clock in basketball. That way states who don't want it don't have to use it. I bet that would pass. I know Robert wants to continue to use it regardless of what happens with the vote so I expect we'll still have it one way or another. I love it and hope we keep it as well. I have heard no negative from any coaches or officials who have used it in Indiana or other states.