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  1. BisonUmpire

    All teams not D1 in Indiana

    Apparently one of the tie breakers is the last team to have been in the playoffs of the 3. That's why I was told Hanover got the playoff spot.
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    IS PJ Fleck a Fraud?

    Out of curiosity I looked up Evan Founce to see if he earned a scholarship at Ball State. He's taken a very different path but seems to be doing well. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9881976/
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    Lateral or Pass protocol.

    The when in doubt on fumble/down has changed to fumble. Someone did a video review of close fumble/down situations and 80% of the time the actual result was fumble. So you have an 80% chance of being right if you rule fumble. It may have been done at the NFL or NCAA level, but that's something that would apply at all levels. It has done me well because when I have the opportunity to review video of these calls (our video isn't always clear) I've been right a lot more than wrong by ruling fumble. As for forward/backward, there are actually two different philosophies. If it's a completed pass and the receiver then throws a second pass, if it's not obviously forward, rule the first one backward. If it's an incomplete pass and not obviously backward then rule it forward. Take your time, process the play and then rule appropriately. Here's another good example based on video studies. If it's a close pass/fumble situation and the QB is hit from behind, it's much more likely a fumble. If the QB is hit from the front, it's much more likely a pass. That's only when in doubt situations though. If you are absolutely certain it was one or the other you rule that way.
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    Lateral or Pass protocol.

    Not everything is covered in the manual. I'd have to dig through it to know if it's specifically covered there. Many things are learned at clinics and meetings. Does it also say the referee should be the only one to flag intentional grounding? No but that is a very standard, common understanding. He'll get help from the other officials to know if there was a receiver in the area, but ultimately that is his flag to throw. None of the responsibilities for an umpire involve ruling on whether or not a runner crossed the goal line. Just as we never mark the progress spot on a run. That's what the wings are for. I agree that because that's what they do on Saturday/Sunday is not a good reason. The reason is because that's what you do on Friday/Saturday/Sunday.
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    Lateral or Pass protocol.

    There are very few instances where an umpire will signal TD. A runner crossing a goal line with the ball is not one of them. That's what the wings are for. One instance where it would make sense is if a runner fumbled in the field of play and it goes into the end zone. If the umpire is the covering official on who recovered the fumble, and it was recovered in the end zone by the offense, then he can signal TD. If you have receive any training as an official via clinics or association meetings you have hopefully heard this as one of the few nevers in officiating. Another example is the umpire should never rule on pass interference. That is not your call. You have to rely on the other members of you crew to be looking where they are supposed to be looking.
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    Wedge Blocking On Kick-Off Return

    I"m not aware of anyone experimenting with no kickoffs at the HS level yet, but I would expect experiments to be coming. I've heard several people say injuries are more common on kickoffs than other plays, but I've never seen actual data proving it. Do coaches have a good feel for it. It does seem like they are any more common to me. As for wedge blocking I don't ever recall actually seeing it in a high school game. The same was true when NCAA added it. I don't remember seeing it any of my games. But then again I was never looking for it because it wasn't a foul.
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    Coach(s) on the field.

    I know you aren't one of the crews avoiding sideline management because of the vote.
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    Coach(s) on the field.

    This is a good example of strictly following a rule and using a rule to manage the game. We will allow a coach to come out on the field to call a play quickly and then get back. No harm no foul as long as he gets back before the play is over. If we are between the 25 and the goal line going in and he's standing in the white during the play back at the 50, we aren't going to look for that. But if we have a change of possession, and the wing is going that way and he gets in the way, it's either going to a sideline warning (assuming it's the first one) or a 15-yard sideline interference penalty (if the official makes contact). Work with the sidelines but don't be a tyrant. Try to focus what's on front of you but communicate when you need to. That communication could include a sideline warning if there is an issue. I agree with falconsref. We have never seen a 15-yard for a 3rd sideline warning, and only a couple times have we gotten to the 5-yarder. But our wings do a very good job working with the coaches and communicating. We average 7 or 8 sideline warnings per season and they often happen on long plays especially kick or turnover returns. Crews need to stop worrying about the coach's vote in regards to sideline management. You don't worry about it when calling other fouls. If you work with and communicate with the coaches on a regular basis they will generally work with you. If you are cold to them or ignore them or are abrupt with them, they will not respond well to a flag for a sideline warning. It's very unlikely you'll get a bad vote just because of a sideline warning. There are likely other issues the coaches have with your crew that are just exacerbated by the sideline warning. Communication is critical. There will obviously be exceptions and outliers. But enforce the rules to effectively manage the game and communicate with the coaches. Don't let the coach vote dictate what or how you call the game.
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    Condition of the ball/clock?

    faconsfbref is correct. A good axiom I learned several years ago - A-B-A-ready-for-play. It means if you have 2 changes of possession and A ends up with the ball the clock will start on the RFP. The exception is if the final runner goes out of bounds.
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    New Pal against the MIC

    There were 2 games in week 1 of the sectional that were 105-0.
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    Lateral or Pass protocol.

    That's why the crews get paid the big bucks! This is a close call and could go either way. The when in doubt here is forward and incomplete, but if you aren't in doubt you rule fumble. The wing on the far side is watching his keys downfield and appears to see this late so it would be hard for him rule either way. If he has it backward you would see him punch back. He either forgot to do that or wasn't sure so he didn't make a ruling. The white hat would be primary on this anyway and while he is exactly where he's supposed to be, he doesn't have the best angle. He just has to make a decision. As I often tell people, some calls aren't right or wrong. They are just calls.
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    Seeded sectionals

    I'm not sure what their Sagarin ratings were before the tournament started, but each of those teams other than Union City are in the top half of their class so if that were a measuring stick they would have made a 50% qualifying tournament. Union City is #37 and because of the luck of the random draw played teams ranked #43 and #59 in their class. The other half of their sectional bracket had #10 and #12. Weaker teams love the random draw because they have the hope they draw another weaker team in the tournament.
  13. If a crew worked a regional 10 years ago and only 1 or 2 rounds since then, they no longer get the points from the regional. That's only good for 6 years. The 1/2 points may be the difference between a 1st round/2nd round crew or 2nd round/sectional final crew, but the crews that are advancing deep into the tournament (regional and beyond) generally are getting there due to volume of votes. They aren't preventing a 1st round crew from getting to the 2nd round.
  14. The crews advancing deep aren't doing it because they start with 1 or 2 more points due to experience. They often have the advantage of 80-100 votes. Those extra 50-60 votes are generally going to be 5s which increases their average much more than 1 or 2 points could overcome. Take your scores and add 50 5s and I guarantee you'll go up much more than 1 or 2 points. To demonstrate, let's say a crew had 15 5s, 10 4s, and 2 3s (after dropping highest/lowest). That's an average of 4.48. That's a pretty good average but probably sectional final at best. Now add 50 5s. You end up with 4.82. That's an increase of 3.5 points. In order for the original crew to reach that point they would need to convert all of the 3s and 5 of the 4s to 5s (22 5s and 5 4s). Now the 1 or 2 points for previous experience makes a big difference. It's possible, but their margin of error is very thin. There isn't a big gap between crew #25 and crew #75. But one is in contention for a regional final and the other is done after 2 rounds. That is exactly why all of us should be doing this. We know the tournament assigning process when we get into this so it seems silly to complain about it when it plays out like we expect. Control what you can control and do the best you can in the games you are assigned.
  15. Schedules would only be done every 2 years (or 4 years if you chose to recycle at a different time). The conference/district schedules would be fairly easy as they could just slot teams into spots (i.e. team1 plays team2, team3 plays team4 in week 4). The non-conference could take a little shuffling, but you could preliminarily schedule teams out of your area or class if you chose in the non-conference/district weeks. If one happened to move into your district/section due to the success factor, you just adjust that one game. I wouldn't anticipate any more or less schedule shuffling than you have today. 20-30% of all games scheduled for next year will have changed at some point in the last year through the Spring due to conference realignments.
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