DaveMosbey

On 12/20/2022 at 10:44 AM, oldtimeqb said:

Hard to tell rumor from fact on conference realignment.  Is Tecumseh joining the small PAC for fall 2023?  Is Southridge moving to the Big division?  I have heard both but I don't know if either is true. 

I thought MV could make some noise, as most thought their JR group last year - seniors in fall 23 - were their deepest class.  The coaching change is always a big question mark though.  I think BV graduates most of its skill talent.  I agree a two team race GS-HH for the title. 

Small division? SR should take it, IMO.  I don't have much of an opinion on anyone else, other than not even Knute Rockne could win at PC as they try out their 5th coach in 8 years. 

 

Boonville did graduate Connor who passed and rushed for over 1000 yards and leading rusher Wilder but return one Skill stud in DB-WR-Punter-Returner Marques Ballard  

Ballard led the Pioneers in receiving yards, kick return yards and punt return yards and was 3rd in rushing yards behind the 2 senior studs.

You would think Mount Vernon 4 Seniors and North Posey 2 Seniors would be much improved with all the young players this past season.

1 hour ago, sr1 said:

Gibson Southern would need to 6 classification points this year and next to move up to 4A. To get 6 points they would need to win semistate this year and next year or win state and regional this year and next year.

They delayed realignment from the 2021-22 school year to the 2022-23 school year so unless I'm mistaken next season factor points are reset.

2 hours ago, jets said:

Aren’t there suppose to be “rules” that keep kids from transferring solely for the purpose of athletics?? Are GS and HH just immune to such rules- or does no one care much ?? 

When Banks transferred to Heritage Hills in January from Central he had to sit out 1 year from date enrolled at HH meaning No Football at all and No Basketball until January, When the Newton kid transferred from South Spencer a few year back to HH he was JV  only his Junior season and not eligible for Varsity until week 5 of Senior season so the answer is NO HH is  not immune.

As far as the above rumor how about waiting until its actually verified before speculating on if the transfer is for athletic reasons.

BTW: I don't remember Jacob Masterson sitting out any games when he transferred from HH to Southridge .     

On 4/29/2021 at 12:50 PM, Reb08 said:

 

 In the 2019 sectional game, methodical didn't hurt Gibson Southern.  Sigler's ability to break big plays late in the game did it.....unless my memory is wrong.  Can't speak about the other games with these two programs.

  

2019 team rush attack was so good because they had a bunch of really good rushers in addition to Sigler Fullbacks Rodgers and Wetzel and Slotbacks Vaal and Mundy. Speedy Vaal was injured early in the sectional win and didn't play again until the end of state.

That team had 2 1000 yard rushers.

2019 rushing yards

Wetzel 1215

Sigler 1135

Rodgers 679

Vaal 503

Mundy 268

HH-GS rush leaders in 2018-2019

2018 regular season win

Wetzel 118 yards

Sigler 80 yards 

Carter 75 yards

2018 sectional loss

Wetzel 123 yards

Sigler 75 yards

2019 regular season  win

Sigler 146 yards

Rodgers 133 yards

Wetzel 91 yards

Mundy 59 yards

2019 Sectional  win

Wetzel 114 yards

Sigler 80 yards

On 9/27/2020 at 7:22 AM, hhpatriot04 said:

I believe 16 quarters (special teams don't count) is the requirement for a varsity letter. How many sophomores do you expect will achieve that this year? (Most years it's 3-6...)

Other then Brenden Chew, Skyler Staples and Shane Staples I honestly cant cant tell you.

On 9/23/2020 at 11:28 AM, hhpatriot04 said:

@DaveMosbey I know you keep us updated on the lower levels on your site http://hhqbclub.com/history, but could you please share HH's Freshman and JV scores for us who are too lazy to click back and forth? Please. I'll buy you a Patriot Dog and Diet Mt Dew at the next HH game I'm able to attend (maybe basketball this year... I anticipate being home Dec 20-Jan 6 for the holidays for the first time in two years). I really want to see Sisley and Sherri in action, and catch up with several others.

Just read this not on the GID as much as I use to. We have a talented Sophomore Class  but with so many of them playing varsity the JV record has taken a hit.

7th  4-1
Beat Boonville 38-26
Beat Southridge 32-6
Beat Jasper 14-8
Beat Pike Central 44-0
North Posey Canceled
Lost Washington 14-6 

8th 4-2
Lost Boonville 16-6
Beat Southridge 30-0
Beat Jasper 14-8
Lost North Posey 30-8
Beat Pike Central 48-0
Beat Washington 34-0

Freshman 1-3
Lost Floyd Central 23-7
Lost Jasper 31-6
Beat Boonville 28-0
Lost Lincoln 22-20

JV 2-3
Lost Mount Vernon 13-0
Beat Tell City 41-0
Lost Boonville 26-20
Beat South Spencer 30-0
Lost North Posey 14-13

Back before Lance was top dog on HTF it seemed he was at just about every HH home game even heard rumors about him showing up at the Chateau victory celebrations at times. He also was MC at the pep session in 2000.

29 minutes ago, Cappy said:

Sorry to disappoint you. I can assure you the man doing the announcing was not intentionally trying to do whatever you believe he was doing. He is a very "do the right thing kind of guy," and I'm confident he was just trying to do the best job he could do. He is a very excitable guy and I have no doubt that could have played into how much he was talking if he was saying too much. I was on the field and never noticed it...

If it needs addressed it will be...

Here is Twitter comment from a Memorial guy on this. The play by play did get old you just don't hear PA announcers talk that much but watching the game live I didn't know he talked all the way through the kick, Only heard that watching the J/D Video. 

5 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Hmm, looks good.  But how many other states have yet to even start playing high school football, or are as far along in their season?

 

Also National numbers always have to be taken with a grain of salt because a bunch of schools don't report stats and when you get numbers from a place like Max Preps I would guess you're lucky if 50% of the teams in the  country have reported stats.

That said its still impressive.

39 minutes ago, Reb08 said:

 Sounds like HH was their own worst enemy.   If there is football later in the year, sure they would love a rematch to turn the tables.  Must admit that I was a little surprised to see HH have 40 carries for only 120 yards......and total offense MV- 247  HH- 197.     

Another huge play in the game besides the fumble on the punt was in the first quarter.

A HH player stripped the ball and looked like he was going to return it for a TD but the Mount Vernon player caught up to him as he got close to the endzone and not only knocked the ball out of his hands from behind but the Wildcats recovered just inches from the goal line.

After the play the Cats completed enough 1st downs to get out of the danger zone before punting.

Also got to give credit to coach Messmer for trusting his defense and punting with 5 minutes left  so they had the chance to recover the fumbled punt return.

Had to work this morning and went to bed as soon as I got home and wasn't hiding  🤣  First congrats Mount Vernon on the win. Not going to beat many teams when you turn the ball over 5 times.

We took a 14-7 lead and forced a Mount Vernon punt with about 5 minutes left, Ball was mishandled by the return man and it looked like instead of just falling on it he tried to scoop it off the field and it rolled a few feet and recovered by MV, I believe it gave them first and goal and tied the game. Its easy to look at something in hindsight but if he had fallen on it we might have held on. 

On Ensuing kickoff we fumble the ball again and Mount Vernon kicks the FG to go up 17-14. Now in catchup mold we go for it deep in our own territory and turn it over on downs and Mount Vernon turns it in to another TD and its game over.

We have won umpteen games by making plays on special teams but last night it was that area that decided the outcome.

Clean up the turnovers and we should be fine if not we might be heading for the programs just 6th losing season in 49 seasons of football.

Tough test at Tell City Friday and it should show what we learned in week 1.

Again congrats to the Wildcats on a well earned victory that handed the Patriots their first regular season loss since September 29th 2017 when we lost 17-7 against Southridge. 

2 hours ago, Cappy said:

Where did you see the 500 total number?

It was in a newspaper article I read but cant remember which one however  Randall Parmley Tweeted the same thing.

I'm late to the party this year with everything going on but my donation has been sent.

On 8/6/2020 at 12:15 PM, Football Fanatic said:

Especially with the anticipation for Reitz this year with the new faces on the coaching staff and coming off of a losing record, I'm sure there are tons of west side faithfuls itching to get out and watch games at the Bowl. The sections seem to be pretty big so I'm sure at least 200 could safely fit in each section. Then you also have up to 250 in those opposite visitor bleachers. And that still would not even be close to 50% capacity for the Bowl, which is why I feel that the local health dept might approve them to allow more in. 

if they went strictly by the IHSAA recommendation the bowl would be empty, It said 250 per bleacher max regardless of how many the bleacher holds each has to have its own entrance. It did say staggered entry was possible for schools with only 1 entrance. But the big thing I read in addition to the 250 per   bleacher the total limit at each facility is 500includimg players, band, etc...

If they adhere to the 500 counting players people could sit 25 feet apart at the bowl.

Just curious how many teams have moved their scrimmage to Saturday so they can have fans ??

The mandate of only essential personal ends Friday the 14th.

Jasper at Heritage Hills originally scheduled for Friday at 6 pm was changed to Saturday morning.

Freshman at 8:30  and Varsity at 10:00.

19 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I know smaller school perspective here, but many of these folks you refer to are volunteers, for smaller events like Volleyall or basketball, different sports teams and their coaches are in charge of hosting the concession stand on various nights.   

I know our ticket takers at RCHS will get a "season pass" to all the sports events if they work X amount of games for the year.   

 

Yep at HH band parents run concessions at varsity football games and boys basketball.

Middle school football parents of players run concessions normally 7th parents during 8th game and vice-versa. 

Still debatable if football will be played  but wrote something up for the quarterback club just in case so decided to post here.

Mount Vernon Wildcats at Heritage Hills Patriots.

This is the 20th   meeting between Heritage Hills and Mount Vernon (Posey) the two teams played in the regular season every year from 1974-1981 and resumed the regular season series in 2014,They also met 4 times in sectional play and once in the regional.

This will be the 1st time since 1982 that Heritage Hills opens their season against a conference opponent as Mount Vernon formerly a member of the now defunct Big Eight Conference joins the PAC and for football becomes member of the PAC large team division.

The Patriots lead the series 14-5 & like most of the Patriots opponents in the early days of the program Mount Vernon dominated the series  winning 3 of the first 4 games and starting with Bob Claytons 1st team in 1978 the Patriots have turned the tables winning 13 of the last 15 games.

Heritage Hills coaches records VS. Mount Vernon.

Roger Snow 1-2

Bob Ashworth 0-1

Bob Clayton 6-2

Todd Wilkerson 7-0

History of the series :

1974 regular season Mount Vernon 24 H Hills 6

1975 regular season Mount Vernon 26 H Hills 13

1976 regular season H Hills 14 Mount Vernon 8

1977 Mount Vernon 16 H Hills 6

1978 H Hills 21 Mount Vernon 14

1979 H Hills 44 Mount Vernon 0

1980 H Hills 27 Mount Vernon 0

1981 Mount Vernon 21 H Hills 0 

1985 sectional H Hills 40 Mount Vernon 6

1999 sectional Mount Vernon 6 H Hills 3

2000 sectional H Hills 36 Mount Vernon 7

2007 regional H Hills 36 Mount Vernon 14.

2014 Heritage Hills 21 Mount Vernon 7

2015 Heritage Hills 20 Mount Vernon 14

2016 Heritage Hills 15 Mount Vernon 6

2017 Heritage Hills 42 Mount Vernon 26

2018 Heritage Hills 45 Mount Vernon 7

2018 sectional Heritage Hills 47 Mount Vernon 0

2019 Heritage Hills 36 Mount Vernon 0

Mine arrived today 

If we have enough players to field a team the  freshman schedule is a bit tougher.

This is a team that needed to play 7th graders to play games in 2019.

On 6/17/2020 at 5:01 PM, Coach Hanson said:

Lawrenceburg vs Gibson southern semi state?

Danville has a good chance to make semi state and play one of those teams. they return a quarterback that passed for over 2000 yards and top 3 receivers. Graduated 2000+ YARD rusher but the QB was 2nd on team in rushing with 440 yards. Not sure about the defense.

25 minutes ago, JQWL said:

I interviewed at TC yesterday for their head coaching job (which will not be going to me incase you were wondering) and their AD said TC and HH not playing was never discussed and he doesn't see them ever not being on the schedule.

If they dropped one in the future my guess would be North Posey because Tell City is one of those opponents that draw a huge student crowd  by the visiting team. Football and Basketball I would say the teams that draw the most students are Jasper, Southridge, Forest Park, South Spencer and Tell City and two of those teams are off the football schedule already.

On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2020 at 10:52 AM, Titan32 said:

I guess I hadn't thought about Heritage Hills keeping TC on the schedule.  Would love to have been a fly on the wall in the room for that discussion.

Coach mentioned in the paper that there are few options in the area with the expanded SIAC and also that it would be his preference to play possible post season opponents instead of out of state opponents.

I would guess eventually either North Posey or Tell City will be replaced but that's only a guess. Our Junior and Senior classes have some talent but not deep and the freshman class struggled with numbers and on the field . Been told 5th, 6th,7th and 8th are all really strong and the sophomore class is strong as well so we should be back to being a major contender again by 2022 if not before.  

That said I still think we win between 6-8 regular season games in 2020 despite replacing 9 starters on defense and 11 on offense, Our JV and Freshman teams both had pretty good seasons in 2019. 

6 hours ago, Indiana Fan said:

Teams should take note on scrimmaging on Friday the 14th with no fans rather than Saturday with fans

Some athletic programs might need that gate  and concessions especially  if they reduce number that can attend games and what can be sold at concessions.  I would guess most schools depend on football and Basketball to fund other sports and extra curriculars. Schools probably saved some money with the cancelation of Spring sports but still reduced gate in football would have to hit some athletic departments hard.

I would guess a Heritage Hills Jasper  scrimmage would likely be the largest crowd for a scrimmage ever at HH because the 2 big rivals wont play in the regular season for the 1st time since 2000.

On 6/17/2020 at 9:14 AM, oldtimeqb said:

Put Gibson Southern in for Heritage Hills.  HH had almost 20 seniors (I think??) that will need replacing. 

I'm curious to see WL.  Adams was tough at QB, and could be tough to replace as well.  

Started season with 18 Seniors but 2 quit leaving us with 16 Seniors, But we had several two-way starters and had 21 Senior starters at beginning of season and ended up with 20 Senior starters.

Return one fulltime starter on defense and one that started about half the season also on defense. Offense started all Seniors.

special teams should be Steller with both kickers and a punter that had one of the top  averages in the state all three returning.

We should be in better position to rebuild then past seasons because the schools fulltime  strength coach is   entering his 4th year in the program and the fulltime trainer is entering her  5th year.

Strength coach arrived at HH in August 2017 and trainer March 2015 before that time we didn't have fulltime all sport trainer or fulltime all sport   strength coach at the school.

Just a guess but I could see several Sophomores starting this season last year as freshman they went 5-3 with wins over Evansville North, Jasper, Boonville and Southridge Twice.

Losses were Mater Dei by 5 points, Gibson Southern by 8 points and the Tecumseh JV team 16-0.

Our incoming 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th grade classes  are all suppose to be really good but the incoming freshman class is really struggling with numbers.   

3 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/06/11/aaron-clements-steps-down-tell-city-football-coach/5347348002/

Everytime you think the once dominant program is making progress to becoming a successful program again the coach resigns for one reason or another.

Seems South Spencer and Tell City have the same problem, starting over every couple seasons.