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DrivenT

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  1. The IHSAA's primary motivation is Competitive Balance Build your proposal around the concept of how a qualification tournament improves overall competitive balance in Indiana high school football.
  2. Noll did this the right way. They determined before the season started that they could not compete given the numbers on hand. caston was in the same boat. They chose to play. Neither is right or wrong. Both made decisions based on what they felt was best for their school. Personally, I believe contraction was the right choice for both. I believe the IHSAA should put in mandatory minimum participation standards by class. That number would be somewhere around for 20 for Caston. That takes the decision out of the hands of admins and leaves it up to IHSAA rules and bylaws. The resources were always there for a potential turnaround. Mismanagement and lack of leadership and vision were major factors. Those are correctable. Chronic low numbers are not correctable.
  3. No It takes minimum 11 players to field a football team, plus some additional bodies for practice. You can have a band with 2,3 4,5,6,7,12,15, whatever students. Logic, reason and common sense rule the day my friend. This isn't rocket science. Agree Its a logical, thoughtful and practical solution. Its an IFCA issue. Bobby Cox will listen to the coaches as long as they have a clear, cohesive and coherent message. Good ole' Bruce Lake
  4. Thumbs Up - Warsaw's prospects in the NLC / the NLC guys have been complaining all year in their private thread about the poor quality of play, overall lack of talent and falling numbers. Sounds like Burt Curtis timed his entrance into the conference at just the right time. Expect to see Warsw take over complete control of this conference over the next 5 to 8 years, (with all due respect to Northwood) The Tigers, under Curtis' leadership, will finally flex their numbers muscles and begin to dominate. Thumbs Up - George Karlaftis and West Lafayette / Big George, in my view, has an opportunity to become the single most accomplished player to ever emerge from an Indiana high school. Rod Woodson probably holds that distinction currently. I see a great college and pro career for this young man, who is the extremely rare 5 star defensive recruit out of Indiana. Thumbs Down - Lake Central and Crown Point / 6A football on the far west side of the Duneland Conference is a disaster. New coaching is needed at both schools if they expect to have any hope of improving their prospects in the conference, let alone in the post season. Thumbs Up - North Central Panthers / Great season for Coach O'Sheas team. I believe O'Shea absolutely feels like he can win a state title at NC. This is just the beginning. The message has been sent to the other MIC powers. There's a new player in town. Thumbs Down - Penn Football / Both fans and critics alike are calling this the worst Penn team of the past decade. Is it really true? Is Penn really considering a departure from The NIC and the pursuit of full blown independence. That possibility appears to be gaining some traction. Certainly, Penn would like to leave The NIC on a high note. Perhaps next year will be better. Thumbs Up - Bedford North Lawrence / The Stars made a nice move on Columbus East's dominance of the Hoosier Hills this season. Is this a one year aberration or does BNL have a program in place with staying power where they can see continued improvement and ultimately topple the Olympians from the lofty perch atop the HHC? Thumbs Up - Mike Gillin and Mooresville Football / Next to the job that O'Shea has done at NC, Gillin's turnaround of the Mooresville program has been fast and furious. The Pioneers are Mid State Conference Co Champs and have one of the state's most exciting offensive attacks. Gillin is a genius. Would be fun to see what he could do in The MIC with schools like Pike or Lawrence North , who are starved for success and lack a core football identity and DNA. Thumbs Down - Perry Meridian and Franklin Central / both schools made jumps to new conferences and are really struggling. Southport, on the other hand , is thriving. These three schools have been connected at the hip for decades. PM is a 6A school in a 5A/4A conference. They have a new football facility and appear to be committed. What is holding the program back? FC has a huge challenge ahead to overcome competitive obstacles in the Hoosier Crossroads. Tough times ahead for both. Thumbs Up - Noblesville and Justin Roden / The Millers quietly had a very solid season, going 4-3 in the tough HCC under first year Coach Roden. You've also got to love Noblesville's gritty non con schedule, opening the season this year with Cathedral and Carmel. Sounds like NHS hads a solid foundation and good things lie ahead for Roden's program. Thumbs Down - HSE and Fishers / What is happening to the football programs in Fishers, Indiana? The Royals and Tigers combined to go 6-12 in regular season play, and post season prospects don't look very good. Very uncharacteristic of these two programs to be this challenged, at the same time. Numbers? Size? Talent? Depth? Maybe the other schools in the conference are just getting much better. Thumbs Down - Hoosier Heritage Conference / When did this league become so soft? New Pal certainly raises the overall profile of this league, but the other schools are not doing their share of the heavy lifting. Shelbyville, Greenfield Central, Delta. What direction are they heading? Is Mt Vernon really a future threat to NP? New Castle is doing what it can to try and be a football school, but its still New Castle. New Palestine needs someone other than Pendleton Heights, on occasion, to give them a push in this conference. Thumbs Neutral - Indy Catholic Football / Overall, a quiet year for the Indy Catholics. They seem to be becoming a more insulated group, happy to compete amongst themselves rather than picking a fight with the local publics. Recruiting wars, transfer issues and nasty public-private feuds of the past seem to be all but gone. Its rather boring actually.
  5. DrivenT

    2018 Boilermakers

    Love those big Catholic school linemen. They seem to have a nastier edge to them than their public school counterparts. Certainly the Chatard Nasty Boys Zack and Nick Martin come to mind. It also reminds me of the great Matt James, who never made it to Notre Dame
  6. I can't imagine how anyone could take an objective outside view of this situation and not come to the conclusion that contraction is the right thing to do. Yes, there will be casualties. Some people's hopes and dreams will be crushed. But the common good must be prioritized over individual desires. More kids at Caston will benefit if the resources dedicated to this football program are reallocated to other more worthwhile endeavors that result in a positive experience for the student athlete. Life lessons are great, but they don't necessarily need to be learned on the short end of a 70-0 football drubbing 8 or 9 times a year. On a side note, I read the story about the coaching change. It seems like too often today, assistant coaches , especially at small schools, get too caught up in titles. How does a tiny school like Caston, with 15 players, have a Co Defensive Coordinator? That's just ridiculous. And smells of selfishness and self promotion. There might be 3 or 4 coaches in attendance for most practices for this program. We didn't have offensive or defensive coordinators when I played. We had a head coach, and his staff of assistants. At a large school with over 2200 students 9-12. Do your job and don't get caught up in titles that you assume are going to advance your career. Or at least earn it and get on a big enough staff to where the title makes some logical sense.
  7. DrivenT

    2018 Boilermakers

    That's a future NFL Head Coach right there.
  8. That's better than being obsequious
  9. Justin Roden record Year School Won Lost Title 2013 East Central 4 7 2014 East Central 8 4 2015 East Central 12 3 semistate 2016 East Central 11 3 regional 2017 East Central 12 3 state
  10. Not only did New Pal take Delta's best player away, they then crushed and demoralized the visiting Eagles in a week 9 HHC conference wrapup. Former Delta star Charlie Spegal rushes 16 times for 387 yards and 7 TDs. Thats a 24.7 yards per carry average. Thru 9 games, Spegal has 2164 yards rushing and 49 TDs. New Pal is 9-0 and HHC Champs, and has outscored its 9 opponents 588-84 Is New Pal this good, or is the competition this bad? These look like sandlot, playground numbers. You've got to wonder how seriously some schools are taking their football when you see numbers like these. If the other HHC schools don't figure out a way to step up their game, I wouldn't be surprised to see New Pal approach the Mid State Conference about potential membership. Maybe Decatur Central, Mooresville, Whiteland or Martinsville could give the Dragons some decent competition. On the other hand, the Mid State schools might not want anything to do with this New Pal beast.
  11. Interesting sidebar in the West Lafayette at Calumet Class 3A Sectional tilt Friday night at Calumet. 5 Star recruit George Karlaftis of WL, a surefire future NFL defensive lineman, meets up with 350 lb Calumet running back Josh Johnson. Who wins this epic one on one matchup?
  12. This one is a no brainer. They will contract in advance of the 2019 season. Logic will prevail.
  13. Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The school admin and athletic department should have pulled the plug during the summer, like Bishop Noll did, and ended this debacle before it even got started. You cannot practice or play this game safely or correctly without the appropriate amount of human resources. Terrible experience for these kids. How could they possibly look back with fond memories ? The parents are not without fault as well. They should have acquiesced to reality and forced the program to shut down by pulling their kids out. Lots of blame to go around. The kids are victimized throughout the process.
  14. Would you be disappointed to see New Pal leave the conference for the Mid State?
  15. What does Michigan have to do with it? Were they expecting a reincarnated Bo Schembechler when he was hired? If he didn't fit in and won a state title regardless, he clearly was run out of town.
  16. Martin is terrific, but like most offensive linemen, he toils in relative obscurity. GK has an opportunity to be a terrorizing defensive end at the next two levels. Carl Eller Jim Marshall Reggie White Julius Peppers Richard Dent Lyle Alzado Ben Davidson Michael Strahan Jack Youngblood Buck Buchanan JJ Watt I sense the end of the Wimmer era might be approaching. Lots of negative personal press combined with poor on field performance equals potential trouble. Is it safe to say that Coach Roden was run out of St Leon?
  17. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/star-defensive-end-nick-bosa-intends-to-withdraw-from-ohio-state-focus-on-nfl-draft/ Bosa withdrawing from school to heal and prep for NFL draft. Trend continus of high profile players bailing out on their teams. Should scholarship funds be revoked and OSU demand payback for prior financial commitment to Bosa? How do schools protect themselves from this in the future?
  18. DrivenT

    Seeded sectionals

    Given the current climate of declining numbers, you should also assume there is another group of student - athletes who are still playing but not fully committed. They are "on the fence", so to speak. These kids are tough to motivate, and easily distracted. And likely the next group to walk away from the game.
  19. DrivenT

    Seeded sectionals

    I agree that there will be some more compelling games in the back half of the season relative to playoff positioning. However, I also would anticipate that an even higher number of games will become even more meaningless due to early playoff disqualification. We are seeing many programs in decline due to a myriad of factors (numbers/talent/coaching. apathy/etc) The number of good/elite programs is falling and the number of average to bad programs is rising. Bad programs need outside motivation to press forward. Without the all-in, their seasons become meaningless and goalless after about 3 weeks.
  20. DrivenT

    Seeded sectionals

    My message is consistent and precise. Yes, the amount of schools in play for a title remains very small. The content of that group of schools has changed somewhat due to the Success Factor. There is more public - private balance on the podium stand now, which was the objective of Emperor Cox and his court. I used to be a proponent of a playoff qualification system, but not anymore. I have come to the conclusion, after listening to all the arguments pro and con, that the negatives outweigh the positives. It's a great topic of discussion and everybody has a strong opinion, one way or the other. I guess in my view, I do not believe adding a qualifier will have any material change on the expected outcomes. So why change?
  21. DrivenT

    Seeded sectionals

    Given the shrinking number of schools that actually have a legitimate shot at winning a state title (on average 2 or 3 per class = 20 schools / 320 total schools = 6% of schools actually have a shot at a blue ring) the goals for the majority of schools are more local, regional. Have a decent season Have some fun Gain some experience Stay healthy ( in some instances to preserve a good basketball season) Win a rivalry game Win a conference championship Win a sectional game Be named All Conference These are all reasonable and attainable goals for the vast majority of schools in Indiana who play football. A state title is a pipedream for these schools.
  22. DrivenT

    Seeded sectionals

    Kids are different today. They don't respond to the same motivational tactics of 20 to 30 years ago. Also remember we have had massive coaching turnover over the past 5 to 8 years, with many inexperienced Bro Coaches walking the sidelines. Some of these guys can hardly motivate themselves let alone a group of 16 year olds. The current system in place actually helps coaches keep distracted teens motivated thru the drudgery of mid to late October football in Indiana.
  23. Competitive balance has long been the central and primary focus of the IHSAA. It is the reason that the Success Factor exists today. Analyzing the results of the just completed 2018 Indiana high school football regular season, the IHSAA still has a big competitive balance issue on its hands. The middle class of high school football in Indiana is disappearing - quickly. There used to be a time when most conferences had three separate and easily identifiable tiers of member schools. Top Tier - strong to elite Middle Tier - average to good Bottom Tier - below average to poor As participation declines, coaching staffs rapidly turnover, and school administrations and athletic departments place less emphasis on football, the middle tier programs are the ones to suffer the most. There is a growing class of elite programs in Indiana, across all classes, and an even larger group of schools who grow more uncompetitive by the year. Reading thru many of the conference and sectional threads here on The GID, one thing is crystal clear. Talent is down across the board, numbers are down everywhere, and dominant teams are becoming even more powerful and extending the performance gap between themselves and their counterparts. What's even more interesting about this phenomenon is the fact that this is not a PP issue. The schools that are putting the greatest distance between themselves and their opponents are all public (Warren, New Pal, Pioneer, West Lafayette, Northwood, East Central) The parallels to college football are interesting. There are basically 4 schools who have a legitimate shot at the national championship. There are no miracles in the NCAA Football Playoff. Nor are there any in the Indiana High School Football Tournament. And that's bad for business. Demographic changes, socio economic circumstances, financial restrictions, cultural and health related concerns and community apathy are at the heart of the decline of football in Indiana's middle school class. Can the tide be reversed? I don't think so,. I see the trend continuing, with many schools reevaluating their future in the high school football business, and several deciding to pull the plug. Some have already initiated this process. Look for more to follow this offseason. The tournament is here, and with very few exceptions, the final script has already been written.
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