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    Bowen wins Butkus Award

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    8 hours ago, Piratefan101 said:

    Who would you say is better? Because I can’t name 1. That would be good enough to even split time with him 

    "I don't know enough about any other players to recognize that many other players can compete with, and exceed, his impressive skill set; therefore, no one else can compete with, nor exceed, him."

    Infallible logic.

    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

    You know they are identical to last year, except home/away are flipped, right? 

    I thought there might have been some big shakeup in SIAC-land and everyone's weeks were getting swapped around or something. Couldn't fathom why an AD of a closed conference would ever, ever, ever want to go through that process voluntarily... unless masochism comes into play. 

    PAC 2022

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    8 hours ago, Titan32 said:

    Final Sagarin numbers are in.  Per tradition I have combined the SIAC and PAC and sorted by Predictor here:

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    Here are the the teams sorted by Overall Rating:

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    Passes the smell test to me for the most part. I thought Boonvillle might be a tick or two higher. HH seems a tad high, but maybe not. I did think they'd have another win or two than they ended up with before the season started. Figured MV would be lower. Didn't they get beat by NP? I know that doesn't mean their body of work isn't stronger, just surprised they ended up that high I guess.

    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

    Fair share…seriously? If we received the same number of kids from those areas as we did last year every year for the next 20 years we wouldn’t even approach the number quality student athletes our local P&P friends have gleaned from local corporations in my day.  But that doesn’t bother me…transfers aren’t  an issue to me…neither is “recruiting”.   The problem is enrollment alone doesn’t work when comparing grossly dissimilar student populations. We all know it…but beating up year after year on schools with less homogeneous student populations is fun isn’t it, intoxicating, even addicting.  Why are some of you frightened of competing on an even playing field?  If the paying field was even we wouldn’t have these punitive systems like the success factor.  Eventually one convinces oneself of all kinds of reasons for the success other than the truth.  P&Ps win a disproportionate amount of championships than their number of state association schools would indicate in basically every state in the union.  That’s why states try to find equitable ways to offset the difference in student population types as opposed to enrollment alone.  No reasonably intelligent person believes enrollment alone is fair.  Even privately educated ones.

    That, and the pizza thing. If we're being honest, let's truly lay it bare.

    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    1 hour ago, fartfry18 said:

    Evansville/warrick schools have lost a fair share in recent years to gibson county. I'd say it had at least some to do with a title there. Did those parent buy that success for their kids?

    Unfortunately we have no control over how good Sandy's Pizza is and how it can affect the SIAC/PAC dynamic in any given year. I'd just suggest getting better pizza joints.

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    3A: Bishop Chatard vs Lawrenceburg

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

    Gibson Southern loses to Owen Valley and this guy wants to cry about Chatard. 
     

    Classic

    Crying? Lmao

    GS got beat, I moved on to wrestling the next week. Get a hold of yourself.

    Chatard most very likely doesn't even want to be in 3A. I almost guarantee they have a very strong desire to put a 4A trophy on the shelf next to all their 3A hardware. What TF do they have to prove beating the sh*t out of all us rednecks down here in Kentucky?

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    Automatic touchbacks on kicks...

    in Officiating Forum

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Irishman said:

    You are correct.....a returner can actually step into the end zone and run as long as the ball is not judged to have crossed that plane. 

    I think this came up a year or two ago and it stuck in my head for some reason. I guess since my kid was kicking, that may be why.

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    3A: Bishop Chatard vs Lawrenceburg

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    I think @slice60 said it most eloquently back in April:

    ”Yes, I can explain it. The IHSAA crapped the bed.

    Here is how Chatard has fared in the last 25 years (22 of 25 years in 3A, except where noted). Chatard has won the 3A state title in 13 of 22 tournaments over the past 25 years. If that doesn't scream MOVED UP DUE TO SUCCESS FACTOR, I do not know what does.   

    97-State Champ

    98-State Champ

    99-Lost in Sect (Roncalli-State Champ)

    00-Lost in Sect (Heritage Hills-State Champ)

    01-State Champ

    02-State Champ

    03-State Champ

    04-Reg Champ (Andrean-State Champ)

    05-Reg Champ (NorthWood-State Champ)

    06-State Champ

    07-State Champ

    08-Reg Champ (Bellmont-State Champ)

    09-Reg Champ (West Laf-State Champ)

    10-State Champ

    11-State Champ

    12-State Champ

    13-moved up to 4A, won Sect (Andrean-3A State Champ)

    14-moved up to 4A, lost in Sect (Tri West-3A State Champ)

    15-State Champ

    16-Lost in Sect (FW Concordia-State Champ)

    17-Sect Champ (Ev Memorial-State Champ)

    18-Reg Champ (West Laf-State Champ)

    19-State Champ

    20-State Champ

    21-moved up to 4A, lost in Sect (Gibson So-3A State Champ) "

    I think there was a very real concern that Chatard might run into it's second string of three consecutive non-state champ seasons in eight years and the IHSAA wanted to nip it in the bud. The embarrassment that this kind of perceived downturn in a program as storied as Chatard might lead to the utter collapse of the team, the Chatard community, and, more broadly, the entire 3A class. How would the IHSAA move forward with only five classes of postseason football being viable, while 64 3A teams wander aimlessly from one gridiron to another for a month, sometimes three schools on the same field, occasionally a team stumbling into a different state's playoffs entirely. Something like this could ultimately be the downfall of Indiana football as well know it.

    /s

    Meanwhile, I believe Dwenger and LCC both stayed up this season, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Owen Valley vs Monrovia

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    2 hours ago, hick said:

    Finally heard back from someone who attend this game. Turns out we had 2 OL banged up, and our all-conf JV LB missed the 2nd half. 

    HA! I see what you did there.  It take you the whole workday to come up with that, or were you just keeping it in your pocket until, you know, the timing was right? Boss must love you spending all that quality cerebral time working on those zingers.  😉

    Btw, I'm absolutely positive the OV/Monrovia folks are pumped that this thread has been taken over by muffins, Uncle Rico, and The Great Hambino. Lo siento. Sorta.

    Owen Valley vs Monrovia

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

    He clearly can't differentiate between the ramblings of a Telecom Engineer and and an Architect.  I'll say it to your face in cursive....GS wins that game 19 out of 20 times.  That said, it is our own fault we didn't have depth at O-line....guys were trainable, the loss of the stud OLB.....hard to replace.

    Be honest.  The first time you typed "architect" it got red-lined, didn't it?

    Dumb engeneers enginears enegineers telecom guys.

    Owen Valley vs Monrovia

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    16 hours ago, hick said:

    I as I suspected. Grade A c*ntmuffin

    Clearly, you don't know how to grade muffins.  @Titan32 is a Grade B, at best.  Myself, now I'm of such high quality muffin that they started adding extra letters. But I wouldn't expect such a low grade muffin as yourself to have the capacity to compete with such as high grade muffin as me, let alone 32.

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    Owen Valley vs Monrovia

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    21 hours ago, hick said:

    You coming to the Reitz Bowl Friday? Or does your freshman team have a game?

    My post-postseason Fridays usually involve pulling out the old VHS tapes of my HS football games, standing in my boxers and pit-stained undershirt, yelling at the screen that if coach would have put me in we would have won state, while a tear slowly runs down my cheek.  I still have an empty place on the mantle where my blue ring would be, if coach just would have put me in.

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