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    Purdue 2022

    in The Next Level

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    Bring in Wunderlich. Kid has a big league arm and did nothing but improve at his days at madder days. The biggest difference in stats from him and Allen can be partially explained by masons lack of a D1 receiver and mds offensive scheme.

    2A: Andrean vs Mater Dei

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    5 hours ago, Titan32 said:

    Just because you are good doesn't mean you aren't at a disadvantage.  I would estimate GS at as high as 35% noneffective enrollment (guessing NP is similar)....I admit that data isn't very scientific (based on a poll of my 4 kids), but having this number exact doesn't really matter for the purposes of this conversation, the phenomena is real and catastrophically effects Indiana football and football across the country.  Again, this is why about half the states in the union have a multiplier.  I don't like the idea of putting privates in their own playoffs like many states have done....just need to get them on an even playing field.

    I just love that your argument is basically "35-50% of kids in public school are turds, therefore, the kids that are not turds cant compete." 

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    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Titan32 said:

    My message has always been consistent and accurate.  One shouldn’t be able to purchase an unfair advantage….but apparently feeling entitled to it can’t be stopped.

    Evansville/warrick schools have lost a fair share in recent years to gibson county. I'd say it had at least some to do with a title there. Did those parent buy that success for their kids?

    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    19 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

    I don’t believe hard working programs should be penalized.  I do believe in choice and we just happen to be one of the better free choices in town.  Doesn’t change the fact even at a place like GS we will never come close to the homogeneity of a private school.  This is why enrollment alone tends to line the trophy cases of our private friends…hard work isn’t exclusive to publics or privates….dead weight however is pretty much exclusive to the former.

     

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    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

    I don’t believe hard working programs should be penalized.  I do believe in choice and we just happen to be one of the better free choices in town.  Doesn’t change the fact even at a place like GS we will never come close to the homogeneity of a private school.  This is why enrollment alone tends to line the trophy cases of our private friends…hard work isn’t exclusive to publics or privates….dead weight however is pretty much exclusive to the former.

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    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Titan32 said:

    I would have to research to get those numbers.  The attraction is a top notch education with very few "issues" as compared with the corporation/school to the North and South.  We get a lot of previously bullied kids   Kind of similar to what you guys pay for I would guess.  For a public school, GS is a special place.  I know at one point they put a shut down on the out of district kids as it was growing too large.  I just wish more of them were 6'4" 265....LOL.  In addition the new line at Toyota and companies like Diversity Viewtech continually looking for employees.  I own rental properties and had one available recently, I was shocked at the number of applicants who had taken the Toyota relocation package and were looking to "get their family to Indiana" as they were still living out of state.

    So a higher percentage of families choose Gibson Southern due to values and good education? It appears that hardworking attitude has translated to success on the field too! I'm glad families have that choice and that your football program has not been punished because of all the influx of hard work.

    2A: Andrean vs Mater Dei

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

    No it didn't.  This is a common misdirection pulled by P&P apologists. A certain type of parent with certain types of kids enroll at the private (and they probably do have a good work ethic).  Does NP have some of those same types of parents and kids....of course they do.  The problem that will never go away is the much larger percentage of kids at the public who are not interested in a high level of academic or extracurricular success.  Given, publics like NP and GS will have a smaller chunk of "dead weight" than most publics but even with that, GS will never ever approach the level of ERM and NP will never ever approach the level of MD with regard to quality success driven student athletes, NEVER.  Not one year, not one time, NEVER.  The institutions are catastrophically dissimilar in student population type.  It's interesting how paying for a service drives expectations.

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    2A: Andrean vs Mater Dei

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

    You honestly think that there are even close to the same number of quality success driven student athletes between MD and NP....you really wanna say that?  You have to realize that when someone pays for a service it because they are looking for specific outcomes, and when someone only attends an institution because the law says they have they are typically a completely different kind of student.....this completely skews "enrollment" and why an "enrollment" only classification system can never work, particularly if you are allowing publics and privates in the same tournament.  Enrollment only might work if you only had publics in the system or only had privates in the system because then the effective enrollments are like for like.  The two ways of doing school are so distinctively different with regard to student population type, enrollment alone just won't work and doesn't and hasn't.  Unless as a private parent you feel entitled that your enrollment fees should also purchase you an unfair advantage in the tournament.

    So by your argument, private school students work harder therefore achieving higher levels of success?

    No dog in the fight here, just pointing out your argument just ate its own tail.

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    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    3 hours ago, tango said:

    It makes no difference in the other sports as far as I can tell, but I suppose an even number of teams makes football scheduling easier and preserves the final week "rivalry game" concept. Personally the rivalry week thing is a little over-rated to me and isn't something that has been around forever. In the SIAC it didn't exist until 1992. Before then, the schedules varied. For a lot of years before 1992 we played MD in the final game. 

    IMO MD and Reitz should play 1 week earlier as a culmination of the fall festival. Keep the festival open later that Friday night for all who attend the game and get a boost in both attendances most likely.

    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    51 minutes ago, Screagle said:

    MD vs Reitz beat rivalry in area 

    Central vs North schools just don’t like each other in all sports 

    Harrison vs Bosse two evenly matched east side schools 

    Memorial vs GS two teams that just win and the class of SW Indiana football  

    Jasper vs Castle. Two big schools that can’t win when it matters 

    VL Vs Boonville. Two schools going the same direction in a hurry. 
     

     

    This would be ideal, but doesn't work in the context of the east west divisions that were being discussed.

    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, fartfry18 said:

    I think if the SIAC couldve added Gibson Southern and boonville in the expansion, the football schedule would've benefitted from an east/west division instead of big small. 

    West-MD, Reitz, Central, Lincoln, Gibson Southern, North

    East- Castle, Memorial, Jasper, Boonville, Bosse, Harrison

    5 games in your division, 2 rotating crossover games, 1 out of conference game, 1 championship week. I'm not convinced the championship week is necessary, and without it, the schools could schedule two out of conference games. 

    This could also make a really cool rivalry week in the SIAC 

    MD vs Reitz

    Bosse vs Harrison

    Warrick County Castle vs Boonville

    Memorial vs Jasper

    County line Gibson So. Vs North

    Central vs Lincoln is really odd but left over in this scenario

    The SIAC Thread

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    I think if the SIAC couldve added Gibson Southern and boonville in the expansion, the football schedule would've benefitted from an east/west division instead of big small. 

    West-MD, Reitz, Central, Lincoln, Gibson Southern, North

    East- Castle, Memorial, Jasper, Boonville, Bosse, Harrison

    5 games in your division, 2 rotating crossover games, 1 out of conference game, 1 championship week. I'm not convinced the championship week is necessary, and without it, the schools could schedule two out of conference games. 

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