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  1. 4 minutes ago, BTF said:

    I honestly don't know, I lost interest in the CFP after Notre Dame lost to Louisville. I keep an eye on it, but probably not as tightly as you guys. 

    I don't see FSU losing so they are going to get in as an undefeated team. Washington would get in as undefeated PAC12 team but I don't think they get by Oregon a 2nd time. 

  2. 29 minutes ago, BTF said:

    So the eye test doesn't really count. Right or wrong?

    It matters but OSU's eye test would look similar to Michigan had the Buckeyes played Michigan's schedule to date. Michigan hasn't played a soul. Unless Washington goes undefeated, OSU is almost assuredly in the field even with a loss to Michigan so long as they don't get blown out. 

  3. 2 minutes ago, temptation said:

    And if found guilty he will pay the price...likely the equivalent of a level 3 violation...

    Is he going to cooperate or flat lie about it? That level 3 can turn to a level 1 very quickly. 

    On October 19th he told the world he knew nothing about any sign stealing scheme. A day later Connor Scallions name was introduced to the world and was subsequently suspended for his role in the sign stealing scheme. 

  4. 2 hours ago, Bash Riprock said:

    Not as much as they wanted when playing TCU last year in the CFP.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2023/10/27/23934696/michigan-tcu-sign-stealing-college-football

    Not long after the CFP unveiled the 2022 semifinal matchups — Georgia vs. Ohio State and TCU vs. Michigan — the Horned Frogs staff began receiving phone calls from coaches across the country about what was a well-known fact in the Big Ten coaching community: that Michigan had an elaborate sign-stealing system.

    Many of those on the TCU staff were unaware before the calls. Coaches from several Big Ten schools, including Ohio State, informed TCU coaches of the scheme.

    “Literally everybody we talked to knew,” said one TCU coach. “They’d say, ‘Just so you know, they steal your signals and they’re going to have everything so you better change them.’”

    One coach told the staff that Michigan “has the most elaborate signal-stealing in the history of the world.”

    So what did TCU do? They put together a system of dummy signals and more, hoping to throw the Wolverines off. TCU mixed in some new signals with the old ones, instructing players to ignore the previous signals and call plays associated with the new signals.

    But that was not all the Horned Frogs did. They also would at times use two different signals, sending in one play with the new signs, “freezing” the play, and then signaling in a second, dummy play using the old signs. Players were instructed to run the play as first called with the new signs, but the hope was that Michigan would buy the second signals, the ones they potentially knew.

    They also tried sending in plays late in the play clock, to prevent Michigan from having enough time to adjust.

    The plan worked, in part, as TCU beat Michigan 51-45 to advance to the National Championship Game. As found by Dellenger:

    [TCU head coach Sonny] Dykes and staff crafted a game plan that, at least in part, used the dummy signals to fool coach Harbaugh and signaler Stalions. TCU scored first-half touchdowns on drives of 10 plays for 83 yards and 12 plays for 76 yards. The Frogs scored more points on Michigan than any team that season (51), eclipsing the next highest scoring opponent by 24 points.

    “The guy [Stalions] was wrong a couple of times,” one TCU staff member said. “We rewatched the TV version of the game. You can see him standing next to the defensive coordinator. He tells something to the coordinator and he points in the air to mean pass. You can see the playsheet he’s holding with our hand signs on them.”

    Pretty funny how every B10 school had knowledge of the sign stealing scheme....except Michigan and Harbaugh

    https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2023/10/26/michigan-sign-stealing-updates-latest-news-ncaa-investigation-jim-harbaugh-team/71328356007/#:~:text=Jim Harbaugh denies knowledge of sign-stealing in Michigan program&text=On the same day as,this matter%2C" Harbaugh said.

    "I want to make it clear that I, and my staff, will fully cooperate with the investigation into this matter," Harbaugh said. "I do not have any knowledge or information regarding the University of Michigan football program illegally stealing signals, nor have I directed staff members or others to participate in an off-campus scouting assignment. I have no awareness of anyone on our staff having done that or having directed that action. 

    This is what is going to ultimately do Harbaugh in; lying about petty offenses to the NCAA.

    Bruce Pearl received a show cause for lying to the NCAA about hosting a recruit at a backyard BBQ

    Kelvin Sampson received a show cause for lying about impermissible phone calls, a secondary violations.

    Jim Tressel lied about knowing his players received free tattoos from a booster. He was handed a show cause.

    Harbaugh seems to be going all-in playing dumb. Obviously he was on record saying this prior to Connor Scallions name ever becoming public so he'll recant his claim.

  5. 1 minute ago, temptation said:

    Allow me to tell you why it matters…in true 2023 form Michigan has already lost the PR battle and in the minds of some has invalidated all of its accomplishments over the last 2+ years.  Folks’ minds and the court of public opinion has already determined they are guilty and this is the most egregious sin in NCAA history and is something only folks at a Michigan have done/would do.  Many coaches have spoken out and shrugged it off..likely because they have skeletons in their own closet and don’t want the NCAA knocking on their door.

    The sensationalized language and slow dripping of details of this story (controlled solely by the MSM and the “firm” appointed to the case) only adds to the outrage involved.  It’s slander, pure and simple.  Michigan may be guilty as hell and if so they deserve legitimate punishment…but usually the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

    SOMEHOW Ohio State insiders had a beat/the inside scoop on this story 3-4 months ago…makes you wonder.  The story broke immediately when word got out that Harbaugh was had a contract extension on his desk, right before Michigan’s bye week yet they said they’ve known about this since 2021?

    C’mon.  No amount of “sign stealing” causes what happened in the OSU games in 2021/2022…

    I know this is an unpopular opinion in 2023, but let’s allow the facts to play out.

    I don't care about any of the other noise or nonsense or any Ohio State pettiness. It's a pretty cut and dry case here, either Harbaugh:

    1. Is behind a sophisticated sign stealing scheme that breaks NCAA rules

    2. Or he isn't.

    It's one or the other here. This isn't Harbaugh's first run in with the NCAA and he's already under investigation for prior allegations. 

  6. Just now, temptation said:

    So, reading between the lines, "minimal?"

     

    Why does that matter lol? If one team sends personnel to scout the other teams signals (by breaking the rules) and that teams opponent doesn't you tell me who has the upper hand? Let me guess, what the Astros did was no big deal either?

  7. 1 minute ago, temptation said:

    Just out of curiosity, how much of a competitive advantage do you believe this sign stealing "scandal" provided for Michigan?

    Probably the same advantage Spygate gave the Patriots. If you're that good, why blatantly cheat? And if you're going to cheat, at least cover your ass. 

  8. 7 minutes ago, temptation said:

    We will find out won't we?  As I said, if this infraction is as egregious as you are claiming then expect the NCAA to drop the hammer. 

    I have my doubts they will.

    Probably going to depend on his cooperation and the fallout from the other investigation. The NCAA doesn't like when you become habitual. 

  9. 4 minutes ago, temptation said:

     

    Didn't send a staffer...

    If it's blatant then we should expect the harshest punishment (vacating wins, post season ban) correct?

    Side note, anyone watch the OSU/Wisconsin game the other night and it seemed every damn time the Wisconsin sideline held up the photo of an airplane it ended up being a pass play?  

     

    Ok a paid staffer bought tickets under his own name and sent associates to do his dirty work. 
     

    Let me guess, Harbaugh had no clue this was going on?

  10. 1 minute ago, temptation said:

    The guy gets clicks as he is truly a love him or hate him type of polarizing character.  But you don't win at every level and turn programs around like he has it you are a "putz."

    Blatantly breaking NCAA rules while you're already under NCAA investigation (for breaking a different set of rules) is in fact the very definition of a putz. 

  11. 2 minutes ago, temptation said:

    You’re catching up…the minority stakeholder has skin in the game on this current investigation too…keep digging.

    You’ve already shifted from “Harbaugh treated the interview like he already had the job” lol.

    That’s different from “being difficult to work with.”

    He met with Denver TWICE and THEY came to him.

    Not bad for a “putz” huh?

    He's a good coach with a blatant disregard for the rules set forth by the NCAA to the point he doesn't even try and hide it. He can be a good coach and a putz at the same time, they aren't mutually exclusive in this instance. 

    And I haven't changed my stance, you've pumped out some narrative that only the national media was driving Harbaugh to the Vikings and the local media had it right all along. I've given you two examples in two posts where two local UM writers suggested he was leaving.

  12. 2 minutes ago, temptation said:

    False again.

    Sam Webb and John Bacon are the only reliable Michigan insiders in the business.

    You are losing badly here and seem to have an unhealthy obsession with the “putz” and his program.

     

     

     

    The "only reliable insiders in the business" lol

    Sam Webb sure seemed to think he was gone too

    It's ok to admit it wasn't the national media driving this narrative. Had Harbaugh not botched his interview with the Vikings, he'd be in Minnesota right now. 

    https://247sports.com/college/michigan/article/michigan-football-jim-harbaugh-gets-final-in-person-interview-with-minnesota-vikings-wednesday-182046538/

    "Because of the narrative about Harbaugh being difficult to work with. In this instance that isn’t just sentiment from around the league. There is a minority stakeholder in the Vikings with strong Michigan ties who has been adamant in expressing the view that one of the other candidates would be a better choice. Ordinarily a minority stakeholder’s view would carry the weight of his or her stake (and that will probably be the case here). But because this stakeholder is speaking from an informed perspective and amplifying a prevalent narrative, countering that sentiment is important. If Wednesday’s interview achieves that, it’d be a surprise if Harbaugh walked away without an offer.

    And if that offer is extended, it’s all over but the shouting."

     

  13. 1 minute ago, temptation said:

    3.  Once again that was irresponsible journalism and the national narrative was wrong.  He was MUCH closer to taking the Denver job than Minnesota.

    You sure about that? Local writers sure seemed to think he was taking the Minnesota job, and in fact wrote that he had already taken it lol. They named Matt Rhule as a potential successor. 

    https://www.on3.com/teams/michigan-wolverines/news/jim-harbaugh-plans-to-sign-with-the-minnesota-vikings/

     

  14. On 10/28/2023 at 6:44 PM, temptation said:

    2015:  Harbaugh was not coming to Michigan. No way. He was going to stay in the NFL and go to Oakland.

    MSM:  wrong

    Don't remember that one, but if you say so sure

     

    On 10/28/2023 at 6:44 PM, temptation said:

    2020:  Michigan is working on firing Harbaugh, and has a potential list of replacements due to the 2-4 COVID season…

    MSM:  wrong

    He took a serious paycut just to stay employed at Michigan

     

    On 10/28/2023 at 6:44 PM, temptation said:

    2022:  Harbaugh to the Vikings is basically a done deal.

    MSM:  wrong

    That wasn't the narrative. Harbaugh treated the Vikings interview as if he had already been given the job and the interview was a mere formality. This turned off Viking execs and he was passed over. 

     

    On 10/28/2023 at 6:44 PM, temptation said:

    2023:  the sign stealing scandal is the worst thing to happen to college football since SMU, Michigan is a lone wolf in doing this and will get hammered.

    Stay tuned.

    I'm not sure how this is going to play out but he's a walking putz that can't seem to stay out of his own way. 

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  15. 1 hour ago, FastpacedO said:

    I doubt they will since Coach Peebles is very familiar with them from Coaching at Lawrence Central and his comments on broadcasts about both Lawrence schools being athletic and talented. Even without overlooking them Lawrence North will present some difficult challenges with their WR's vs Cathedral's DB's. Should be a very good game and honestly could be a coin flip game.

    Yeah if Cathedral doesn't get pressure and their QB has time to throw the ball downfield, this will come down to the wire. 

  16. 1 hour ago, Yuccaguy said:

    I'm done with this stupid comparison to a district that is solely it's OWN (ESL) and that which a part of a larger one (Tech)....

    I’m not comparing districts smartass. But you knew that. I made the comparison between East St Louis High School and Arsenal Tech, two inner-city schools with identical demographics and socio-economic status.
     

    If you’ve followed any of Temp’s diatribes on this subject over the years, a school like ESL should never be able to succeed (low enrollment/high f/r/l program) given those two factors. 
     

    No need to announce your presence as the smartest guy in the room, just hit submit reply.

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