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  1. 7 hours ago, Bobref said:

    Not true. Under the high school rules, any player can line up in any position wearing any number. However, numbers affect eligibility to catch a forward pass. Only offensive players numbered 1-49 or 80-99 can legally catch, bat or muff a forward pass. There are also numbering requirements on the offensive line. But they don’t affect any player’s ability to wear a particular number.

    Also, can we move this topic to the Officiating sub-forum? I think that’s the better place for it.

    So, if a player is an OG, they must wear a lineman number (50-79), correct? But what if a team wants to use that same player as a FB (like Fridge)?  Would they be required to switch jerseys? Or just report eligible?  

    Sorry if it seems like the same question. I am just a bit confused. 

  2. In HS, what are the number restrictions?  I know that 50-79 can not line up as QB, RB, WR, etc.  However, are there further restrictions?  Can an offensive lineman wear a "non-lineman" number?  What if you have a OL who is also used as a RB in short yardage? Two jerseys? 

  3. Ok, this topic may not be in the right place, but I really can think of very few places where a guy can get these answers.  

    First off, my son is finishing his freshman year right now (playing spring HS football in Illinois right now), so I am thinking I am premature on this. 

    I am curious how to go about starting to get my son on the radar for colleges.  I was contacted by someone from NCSA (I clicked a button during registration on the 8to18 site).  They informed me that I was already behind in getting my son's name out there.  

    My question is this: what is the process to get his name out there? Is this something that falls on me as a parent? Or should the HC and AD be taking these steps? 

  4. My son is an Illinois freshman playing football this spring.  Most teams are playing 6 games, with no playoffs.  The odd thing is the lack of JV football teams.  Most schools have less players this year, which has lead to more schools not having a JV team.  My son's school is one of only 3 schools in our area (and conference of 😎 to have a full JV roster.  Other schools seem to have taking most of their Sophomore, and even some Juniors, and put them together with the freshman.  So far, all three games my son has played are against JV/Freshman teams.  

     

    Going to be beneficial for this group of freshman as they move into their Sophomore year, but tough sledding right now. 

  5. Few thoughts.

    First, just take your ball and go home, huh?

    Second, good luck keeping the top coaches. Coaches have competitive drives just like players. They want to play the best competition, so they will long to play the whole state.  This doesn't even address the message you are sending.

     

    Lastly, those schools mentioned that will be stronger (Luers, Marian, Concordia, St. Joe's,etc) will be thrilled that they will be treated "fairly".  What happens if Penn or Snider find their previous dominance? Do they get multiplier or just kicked out?

     

     

  6. 32 minutes ago, DL6 said:

    Spot on. The Success Factor hasn’t kept Chatard and Roncalli up a class because the IHSAA refuses to separate those two in the sectional when they’re both in 4A (next year). Same can be said for when Roncalli moved up to 5A. Cathedral was in their sectional while New Pal went north.

    Want to keep Chatard/Roncalli/Cathedral up a class? Quit putting them in the same sectional for a big $$$ gate. It screws up the purpose of the success factor.

    Fair point about the sectionals, but how do you achieve that?  Even though Chatard or Cathedral and Roncalli are on opposite sides of Indy, that typically is close enough to legitimately be in the same sectional. I think if you intentional separate Chatard and Roncalli next year, there will be plenty of complaints from the other 4A schools that feel they shouldn't have one or the other in their sectional

  7. I am glad to see that the P/P debated has shifted away from recruiting/cheating.  I can acknowledge that their is an advantage at a private school that doesn't exist at public schools.  For instance, a few years ago, at my 20th reunion, we did a tour of the updated school. Included was a run down of student body information. It was stated that 91% of students at Chatard participated in at least one extra curricular activity (fine arts or sports)

     

    What I hear very clearly from this post is that fact.  What I don't understand is why we can't acknowledge that the SF is at least a very large portion of the solution. It needs to be tweaked, but it is a very good start.  In my opinion, there is little doubt that Chatard belongs in 4A. To answer the questions I read all the time about why Chatard doesn't volunteer to move up- why should they? Any good coach will teach the same thing, "play by the rules, and beat the guy across from you".  

     

    I think we need to figure out the correct threshold to move up and stay up or go back down.  Some schools are moved up because they have that one great class, others get moved up, and fail to stay up simply because of a down year (which I have heard Chatard might have next year).  I think the energy and effort should be aimed there. 

     

     

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  8. I coached my son in baseball until his 8th grade year, all in Rec.  We both loved it. I will say, I had the benefit that he was legit one of the better players each year.  Not sure I would want to coach him in "school sports"

    One if the things I developed early on with him was the minute we got into the car, he would start talking about the game.  I would stop and ask if he wanted to talk to dad or coach.  He almost always asked for coach.  He wanted to get better.  He is now in HS, and plays three sports, and while I miss being on the field with him, I love to just watch.  I would never trade those memories.  

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  9. 1 hour ago, Titan32 said:

    Kicking the can down the road could be kicking it onto a landmine.  There is no reason to believe things will be any "better" in the spring particularly if rudimentary case counts are the metric.

    I think everyone involved here knows that is likely. IHSA is trying to get all sports at least something this year.  

    57 minutes ago, wabashalwaysfights said:

    Worth the grind that @psaboy referenced. You will lose some younger kids to physical and mental burnout. I know there is a strong contingent on here who thinks a spring football season would be fine, and it may be for some kids and programs, especially current Seniors, obviously, and bigger programs. But for underclassmen and especially smaller programs a spring season is just not that simple.

    Even with two shortened seasons, there's still a number of ancillary issues to sort through. Each season would need at least two weeks of practice before competition begins, how do football coaches handle the Spring Break crowd (which having coached in both the fall and spring seasons incandescent assure you is TOTALLY different from even your week long fall breaks), how do they handle the new dynamic with winter and spring coaches.

    Some consideration also needs to be given to how many student-athletes are not "football first" multiple sport athletes.  If I am a "baseball first" guy who plays football because it is fun and doesn't conflict with baseball season too much, I am likely not playing football in the spring, even if the seasons are separated a la what Illinois is doing. If I sustain a mild injury in the fall, I have the winter months to rehabilitate that injury and be pretty close to full strength by tr he time baseball rolls around in the spring. The Illinois schedule takes that away: now if I sustain even a mild injury it has a big impact on my baseball season. Basketball teams may see this too where they lose guys off their roster who are "football first" and play basketball because it doesn't really effect their traditional football season. Bow prevalent would these issues be? Depends on the size of your school and how many multiple sport athletes you have.

    Also, if I am a baseball or track coach in Illinois I am ticked about their schedule.  For some, and I would hope this is a small crowd, selfishly I just lost half of my summer. Next, I think their overall participation rates will be way down. This may not be for lack of interest but simply because most parents take time off from work in June for vacation and that time is often worked into their schedule months or years in advance. Many reserve their spots at vacation spots years in advance and I think this past spring break proved that people are going to vacation even in the middle of a pandemic. Baseball coaches specifically are going to have to contend with travel baseball now more than ever.

    Again, I am apparently on somewhat of an island here and I get that which is why I have refrained from posting about it as much. I could be totally wrong; things could go off without a hitch in Illinois, Virginia, and New Mexico. Participation may actually go up, coaches may work in perfect harmony, rainbows, unicorns, etc, but I just don't see it. 

    I want football, I think it is safe to play now, I do not want our seniors to miss their last season, they have definitely earned it, but not at the expense of the long term health of the game. Fully admit I may be wrong, but there it is.

    You have valid points.  I don't think there is any great solution out there right now. We will have to roll with the punches and see what happens. 

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  10. 13 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

    Coach, this is a realistic plan.  Volleyball cant be held indoors this fall either...

    March to June football will be OK for one year...

     But where is baseball and softball in this plan. Summer? 

     

    The best thing about spring football is that it allows fans back in the stands in some way...we have time to plan

    Football is the money maker.....To have it this fall with few or no fans is a losing proposition....

    ..and all senior boys get a chance to play football AND baseball, right?

    Football will run until mid May.  Playoffs past the first two rounds of what is Regionals here, is TBD based on conditions.   Baseball will start mid May, and run through the end of June.  

    My son will be playing freshman Durham this year, and I personally am a little concerned about the quick turn around to his sophomore football season, but I would rather this option than cancelling the season.  

    Should be an interesting year over here. 

  11. There is another proposal that will be bright to the table. The whole idea of districts was to help prevent the 3-4 he drives for first and second round playoff games.  Right now, imagine a team from Anderson area having to go to Evansville in the first round. That is not unusual in the first few rounds in Illinois.  

    The new proposal will in essence go from just about 50% of schools making the playoffs, to almost 75% of schools making it. Hopefully, it would create a better travel distance. 

  12. The school is in Illinois.  I agree with most of what is being said here. A few points I made to the mother who posted.

    -I think it is important for her to have her son take the lead on talking to the coach/AD. She should feel free to be involved, but at this age, I think it is vital that the player be in charge of the situation. 

    -talent of said athlete should not, and I don't believe is, the issue here. HS is where many athletes decide the commitment is not worth the time required. Lifting is practice, period. Unless there is a reason, like another sport or similar, that the player is not at lifting, it is an issue. 

    -I am never ok with bullying, but I have seen way more times where words between a more intense teammate and one who is on the fence about fully committing has been termed bullying, when that is not at all the case.  This happens a lot when the parents of the kid is not use to the HS sports mentality.

     

    I agree that this is a great chance for the young team leaders to step up and explain to all teammates what is expected, both as the player not coming to lifting, and to those trying to pressure the kid to get there. 

  13. Today I saw this posted on a Facebook page for the town that I live in.  I am curious how people feel this should be handled by the player/parent, in regards to addressing with coach/school.  

    (This is a text the player sent to his mom when she asked why he was upset. Parent posted it on Facebook asking for advice)

    "Kids on team [football] won't even let me in the locker room because of my attendance to lifting. But then this one kid pushed me and told me to grab my *hit after making fun of me for after adhd. And making fun of where I grew up and *hit. I don't want to even be on the team if the team "role models" are going to be treating me like that"

     

    Now, I don't know anymore, like who the kid is, though I do know he is part of the current Freshman class at the local (and only) high school in town. The current Freshman class has been highly talked about around town for two or three years as the group that will bring a State title back to town, and started their high school careers by going 9-0 this fall.  

     

    I am just curious how you would advise player or parents to proceed. 

  14. On 11/22/2019 at 11:15 AM, XStar said:

    Why play the state finals under different rules than everything else?  Do we not care about the teams that suffer from bad/missed calls in a regional or semistate loss? 

    It doesn't really seem to be about the teams that didn't make it.  It is sorta like saying that all the games should be played in an outdoor stadium because it should be the same as every other game.  The fact is, it is not like any other game.  I am not saying they should automatically start using it, but the argument against should not be based on it not being used in other games during the year. 

  15. I played, well stood on the sidelines, against that Roncalli team for Chatard.  I was a sophomore WR/DB who had just decided to go see what football was all about.  Learned a lot, enough to know I was not tough enough to play HS football.  Lol. 

     

    But I learned valuable lessons from that team and coaching staff.  I regret not sticking it out and playing the last two years of HS.  

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