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I have been saying for weeks that California will be red come November.  Now, I think NY will be red too.

These are feeling, which do not equate to facts  

All because those state governors can not do their job. 

 

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10 hours ago, foxbat said:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/02/outrageous-christian-leaders-reject-trump-use-of-church-as-prop-during-george-floyd-protests

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The Right Rev Mariann Budde, the Episcopal bishop of Washington, told the Washington Post: “I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call, that they would be clearing [the area] with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop.”

Trump’s message is at odds with the values of love and tolerance espoused by the church, Budde said, before describing the president’s visit as an opportunity to use the church, and a Bible, as a “backdrop”.

“Let me be clear, the President just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese, without permission, as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus,” she told CNN.

“We align ourselves with those seeking justice for the death of George Floyd and countless others. And I just can’t believe what my eyes have seen,” she added.

“I don’t want President Trump speaking for St John’s. We so dissociate ourselves from the messages of this president,” she told the Washington Post. “We hold the teachings of our sacred texts to be so, so grounding to our lives and everything we do, and it is about love of neighbor and sacrificial love and justice.”

Other religious leaders echoed her comments.

Presiding Bishop Michael Curry, Primate of the Episcopal church, accused the president of using the church and Bible for “partisan political purposes”.

 

 

Like I said. Leadership. You riot. You vandalize monuments. You try to burn down a church. You get what you get. Promises made. Promises kept. 

Open your eyes folks. Truly. Open your eyes. You are witnessing the New Great Awakening. Some have to be shown. The systematic destruction of the old guard, world wide, is coming down. 

Oh yeah.  Don’t think these planned riots across the country aren’t staged?  Who is in court this week?  Today?  Look HERE. Not THERE. 

Transition to greatness. 

In the end, God wins. Good wins. America wins. 

 

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18 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Shocking coming for a liberal that has been outspoken against Trump in the past.  

"Hold our teaching about sacred texts to be so"...yeah....I bet if a lot of Christians researched her positions, they wouldn't agree one bit with that comment.

She supports the murdering of innocent children, so I refuse to pay her or anyone that supports/quotes/references her, any attention. 

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12 hours ago, foxbat said:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/02/outrageous-christian-leaders-reject-trump-use-of-church-as-prop-during-george-floyd-protests

FTA:

The Right Rev Mariann Budde, the Episcopal bishop of Washington, told the Washington Post: “I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call, that they would be clearing [the area] with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop.”

Trump’s message is at odds with the values of love and tolerance espoused by the church, Budde said, before describing the president’s visit as an opportunity to use the church, and a Bible, as a “backdrop”.

“Let me be clear, the President just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese, without permission, as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus,” she told CNN.

“We align ourselves with those seeking justice for the death of George Floyd and countless others. And I just can’t believe what my eyes have seen,” she added.

“I don’t want President Trump speaking for St John’s. We so dissociate ourselves from the messages of this president,” she told the Washington Post. “We hold the teachings of our sacred texts to be so, so grounding to our lives and everything we do, and it is about love of neighbor and sacrificial love and justice.”

Other religious leaders echoed her comments.

Presiding Bishop Michael Curry, Primate of the Episcopal church, accused the president of using the church and Bible for “partisan political purposes”.

 

 

Here is a picture of the “religious leader” who supports the murdering of innocent babies. 
He has been outspoken for years about President Trump. Nothing new here. 

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2 hours ago, DannEllenwood said:

I have been saying for weeks that California will be red come November.  Now, I think NY will be red too.

These are feeling, which do not equate to facts  

All because those state governors can not do their job. 

 

My sister is an elementary teacher in suburban Los Angeles. She said a considerable amount of people are fed up with the coronavirus lock down hoax. People are realizing their Democrat leaders do not care about their welfare and will bankrupt them and their businesses.

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1 hour ago, Howe said:

My sister is an elementary teacher in suburban Los Angeles. She said a considerable amount of people are fed up with the coronavirus lock down hoax. People are realizing their Democrat leaders do not care about their welfare and will bankrupt them and their businesses.

Very wise sister. We are witnessing the systematic destruction of the old guard. Transition to GREATNESS. NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING!  

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2 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Are you sure about that?  Penalty flag thrown again for BS.

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/president-barack-obama-religion-113791

Not saying he isn't a man of faith.  But there is too much on the net that proves your statement wrong about Obama's church attendance.

Try again.

Are you saying the picture is fake? Got any pics of Trump in a pew? 

By standing in front of one that supports a woman's Right to Choose for a photo op can we assume he is now Pro-Choice? Photo op backfire.

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34 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

I'm nostalgic for the days when we had a POTUS who attended mosque

The Obamas Attend Easter Service at Historic Virginia Church ...

Fixed it for you.

Thats a tremendous photo-op. Well done Barry. 

In your blind hatred for POTUS Trump, yiu must’ve missed when he attended church remotely, during the corona “virus” lockdown. 

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6 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:

Fixed it for you.

Thats a tremendous photo-op. Well done Barry. 

In your blind hatred for POTUS Trump, yiu must’ve missed when he attended church remotely, during the corona “virus” lockdown. 

*you*

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2 hours ago, gonzoron said:

*you*

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1 hour ago, TrojanDad said:

Pic is good.  It is your posts that are fake.  

Its on record Obama occasionally attended church.  Infrequently attended.  Now if that is your standard of "greatness", I guarantee you can find evidence of Trump in a church.  Just type it in your favorite search engine.

 

😊. I love my fellow Americans. 

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Partisan religion discussions are by far some of THE most nauseating things to see, hear and read. This "who is holier game" is pathetic at best. In my honest opinion, the most Christian example in DC we had and even continues to be Jimmy Carter. He was as opposite in many political beliefs as me, but he is a man of high integrity and faith. His example is something we should all strive for. The fact is that any pictures, video, or moments in church were all photo ops. Dispute President Obama's faith all you want, but he has been faithful to Michelle, and committed to his family as long as he has had a family. I will give him credit even for not being shy about owning his mistakes. But he never did cheat on Michelle like Clinton or Trump have. He has never had to pay off a porn star; regardless of how the case turned out, he still did it. There is a picture a friend of mine who is a minister in CA posted today. It is a side by side of President Trump holding the Bible up yesterday and today Nancy Pelosi holding one. I hate seeing this Book become a political prop. Because that is all it is. 

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6 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

Pic is good.  It is your posts that are fake.  

Its on record Obama occasionally attended church.  Infrequently attended.  Now if that is your standard of "greatness", I guarantee you can find evidence of Trump in a church.  Just type it in your favorite search engine.

 

Trump is a modern-day Pharisee, then.

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4 hours ago, Irishman said:

Partisan religion discussions are by far some of THE most nauseating things to see, hear and read. This "who is holier game" is pathetic at best. In my honest opinion, the most Christian example in DC we had and even continues to be Jimmy Carter. He was as opposite in many political beliefs as me, but he is a man of high integrity and faith. His example is something we should all strive for. The fact is that any pictures, video, or moments in church were all photo ops. Dispute President Obama's faith all you want, but he has been faithful to Michelle, and committed to his family as long as he has had a family. I will give him credit even for not being shy about owning his mistakes. But he never did cheat on Michelle like Clinton or Trump have. He has never had to pay off a porn star; regardless of how the case turned out, he still did it. There is a picture a friend of mine who is a minister in CA posted today. It is a side by side of President Trump holding the Bible up yesterday and today Nancy Pelosi holding one. I hate seeing this Book become a political prop. Because that is all it is. 

It has and I agree with your statements..

Jimmy Carter is a great man. 

Barack Obama and George W Bush have their faults as men and have admitted so but seem to be great husbands and dads. 

Bill Clinton seems to be trying to be a better husband but ive never doubted his love for his daughter. 

Donald Trump has cheated on all his wives, ive read articles that when he was divorcing ivanna, he without fight gave up Ivanka and Eric and dragged along DJTJR for a bit, when ivanna said she was done fighting after the lastest court hearing, Donald Trump Jr got in with his dad (who he wanted to live with) but Trump then ordered him to go with his mom. It seemed it was just a stunt. 

Our country willl be a better place once he's out of office. 

The bible has created so much divide in our country.

 

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Joe Biden Basically Admits Libertarians Were Right All Along: Cops Shouldn't Have Military Gear

https://reason.com/2020/06/02/joe-biden-basically-admits-libertarians-were-right-all-along-cops-shouldnt-have-military-gear/

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In a Tuesday speech addressing the recent civic unrest that has roiled America since the killing of George Floyd, former Vice President Joe Biden called on Congress to pass a series of reforms aimed at improving "oversight and accountability" in the nation's police departments.

Among those ideas is a proposal "to stop transferring weapons of war to police forces," Biden said in Philadelphia.

That's a good idea. Indeed, Biden is echoing something that libertarians have been saying for years.

Still, Biden is an awkward avatar for police reform. Back in 1997, the then-senator from Delaware voted in favor of the bill that expanded the Pentagon's role in handing off surplus gear to local cops. It was that year's National Defense Authorization Act that created the 1033 program, a vastly expanded version of previous military surplus programs that entitled "all law enforcement agencies to acquire property for bona fide law enforcement purposes that assist in their arrest and apprehension mission."

Like so many other bad ideas from the 1990s, this one was wrapped up in the war on drugs. The 1033 program gave preference to departments that sought military gear for counter-drug operations. That makes the program a double-whammy of bad ideas: It gave local police an incentive to more vigorously prosecute drug users in order to score free toys from the Pentagon.

The result was exactly what you'd predict. It's no longer unusual for local police departments to own mine-resistant vehicles, grenade launchers, and even tanks. These weapons of war have never been appropriate for police work, but billions of dollars' worth of them have been distributed to departments around the country—in part because Biden voted for the original legislation.

In his speech on Tuesday, Biden did not grapple with that unfortunate bit of his legislative history. Hopefully he will be asked about it soon.

In the meantime, some members of Congress are already getting to work. The New York Times reported Tuesday that a bipartisan group of lawmakers have launched an effort to shut down the Pentagon's transfer of military gear to cops. "It is clear that many police departments are being outfitted as if they are going to war, and it is not working in terms of maintaining the peace," Sen. Brian Schatz (D–Hawaii)—who previously worked with Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) on an ill-fated attempt to end the practice—told the Times. "Just because the Department of Defense has excess weaponry doesn't mean it will be put to good use."

As for Biden, his change of heart regarding military gear for cops fits nicely alongside the rest of his biography. As one of the most powerful members of the Senate in the 1980s and 1990s, Biden played a major role in passing several tough-on-crime policies that helped amplify the horrors of the drug war and filled America's prisons to the brim. He's had to reckon with that during his campaign for president.

Biden is, as Reason Editor at Large Matt Welch has observed, something of a rusty weather vane for the Democratic Party consensus. When the party was gung-ho about locking up criminal and throwing away the key, Biden was there to write the bills that President Bill Clinton signed. Now that the Democratic constituency is finally paying attention to criminal justice reform and police accountability, he's trying to undo some of the very measures he once drafted.

But it's still better to look like a hypocrite than to continue being wrong. Biden's evolution from a drug warrior who approved of arming cops with military gear to a critic of the drug war who wants to end abusive policing is perhaps a silver lining to this week's awfulness. He's a presidential candidate who is the embodiment of the Overton window, and it appears he has been shifted.

Anything to stay in power.

 

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3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Joe Biden Basically Admits Libertarians Were Right All Along: Cops Shouldn't Have Military Gear

https://reason.com/2020/06/02/joe-biden-basically-admits-libertarians-were-right-all-along-cops-shouldnt-have-military-gear/

Anything to stay in power.

 

Biden isn't in power.

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Biden can be summed up in this statement:

It's no longer unusual for local police departments to own mine-resistant vehiclesgrenade launchers, and even tanks. These weapons of war have never been appropriate for police work, but billions of dollars' worth of them have been distributed to departments around the country—in part because Biden voted for the original legislation.

In his speech on Tuesday, Biden did not grapple with that unfortunate bit of his legislative history. Hopefully he will be asked about it soon.

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5 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

He wasn't a member of the U.S. Congress for almost 40 years plus a VP for eight? 

Sorry, I have little use for career politicians.

 

That's very noble of you, but it doesn't change the fact that he currently is not 'in' power,  which is what I stated.

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4 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

That's very noble of you, but it doesn't change the fact that he currently is not 'in' power,  which is what I stated.

And it wasn't what I was referring to when I posted a link containing some of Mr. Biden's past congressional activities.

Why do your feel Mr. Biden is running for POTUS?

 

 

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