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Bernie Sanders Wants To Cancel All Student Debt and Make College Free, at a Cost of $2.2 Trillion: https://reason.com/2019/06/24/bernie-sanders-cancel-student-debt-trillion/

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) unveiled his latest policy proposal on Monday, and it comes with an eye-popping price tag: The democratic-socialist presidential candidate wants to erase all student debt and make college completely free—at a cost of $2.2 trillion over 10 years.

"This is truly a revolutionary proposal," said Sanders, according to The Washington Post. "In a generation hard hit by the Wall Street crash of 2008, it forgives all student debt and ends the absurdity of sentencing an entire generation to a lifetime of debt for the 'crime' of getting a college education."

Sanders' plan is indeed revolutionary. It goes much further than his previous free-college plan, which eliminated tuition costs for only those making less than $125,000. It also goes much further than the debt-relief plan currently being touted by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.), which is means-tested and takes earnings into account. Under the Warren plan, those making less than $100,000 would receive up to $50,000 in loan forgiveness, while those making substantially more would receive less.

The Sanders campaign is clearly concerned that Warren, his main rival for the support of progressives chiefly motivated by income-inequality issues, is surging in the polls. No doubt he would like to offer the left-wing Democratic base something to get excited about. Well, this is certainly something.

In contrast to the Warren plan, the Sanders plan is no-holds-barred. It eliminates all student loan debt, even for high-income degree holders who are perfectly capable of paying back what they borrowed. And it makes all two- and four-year colleges completely free.

To pay for this massive, massive bailout of the well-educated, Sanders will propose new taxes on financial transactions, Wall Street speculation, and bonds. Whether the government could actually raise the full $2.2 trillion via these means is contested by some economists. When asked how to pay for his pie-in-the-sky proposals, Sanders is often evasive. His Medicare for All plan, which could cost as much as $25 trillion over 10 years, lacks a specific, concrete funding source.

Aside from its staggering cost, the policy is flawed in the same way that so many plans to cancel student debt are flawed: It rewards people who made unwise investments and transfers money to comparatively well-off people. The primary beneficiary of a college degree is not society at large, but the degree holders themselves, who tend to be more privileged and have better financial prospects than those who don't have college degrees.

Making college free, of course, would encourage more people to attend. This would likely worsen the sort of "credentialist arms race" that the economist Bryan Caplan warns about in his excellent book, The Case Against Education

But the biggest issue with Sanders' plan may very well be that it makes Warren's tamer, but still wildly expensive plan—it costs a mere $1 trillion, instead of $2 trillion—seem acceptable and moderate by comparison.

 

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On 6/14/2019 at 2:47 PM, Impartial_Observer said:

Ehhh, we're nearly eight months from the first vote being cast......I'm sure the press will tell me everything I need to know the next day.

OK, purely for entertainment purposes I watched a little of the debate last night, and boy did it deliver. Here are a few take aways:

1. Joe Biden had one job, don't lose. He failed miserably. 

2. Mayor Pete looked good, he has two glaring issues, police in South Bend and he's gay. There are people who will vote for him because he's gay, there are people who will not vote for him because he's gay. Unfortunately the people who will vote for him because he's gay don't vote, and the ones who won't vote for him do vote. 

3. All Michael Bennett needs is a little mustache and he looks EXACTLY like Hitler, though a little taller. He's already got the haircut and eyebrows.

4. Marianne Williamson looked like she arrived in a time machine from the 70's. And I'm not going to lie, I had to look up her name this morning.

5. As entertaining as it was, it dawned on me at some point, someone with these bat$shit crazy ideas is going to get elected. 

6. There are currently seven sitting US senators, three US representatives, two former representatives, and one former senator/VP. Last night I listened to all of them rail against the way things are, and no one seems to want to take any responsibility for the way things are. They've been involved in politics at the national level in some cases since the 70's and now they're expecting me to believe that suddenly after being elected president they're going to wave a magic wand and it's all going to be fixed. They aren't the solution, they 're the problem. 

7. One more thought on Joe Biden, he pretty much single handedly was responsible for virtually every piece of legislation passes in the last 40 years, including ACA, per him last night. 

8. Kamala Harris probably raised her stock last night. Since announcing she's just been a face in the crowd, I'm sure she'll see a bump. But being a face in the crowd there's no real light shining on you. I suspect once there's a light shining on her, she's going to have some issues. 

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22 minutes ago, swordfish said:

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Is there an actual clip for this? I have my suspicions if that was even a question. I am pretty certain IO would have mentioned that in his post if it had. Plus I texted him that he had to do a shot every time the word free was mentioned. 🤣🤣 Because to speak, they had to raise their hands to reply. I was even joking with IO last night saying there were points where it reminded me of some of my class discussions...seeing the hands go up as if they could not wait to say something, and then would lose control and blurt something out. 

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1 hour ago, Irishman said:

Is there an actual clip for this? I have my suspicions if that was even a question. I am pretty certain IO would have mentioned that in his post if it had. Plus I texted him that he had to do a shot every time the word free was mentioned. 🤣🤣 Because to speak, they had to raise their hands to reply. I was even joking with IO last night saying there were points where it reminded me of some of my class discussions...seeing the hands go up as if they could not wait to say something, and then would lose control and blurt something out. 

Didn't look for a clip Irish,

https://nypost.com/2019/06/27/trump-slams-dems-for-backing-health-care-for-undocumented-immigrants/

All of the candidates — including former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Kamala Harris and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg — raised their hands when asked by an NBC moderator if they would support a health care plan that would cover undocumented immigrants.

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1 hour ago, Irishman said:

Is there an actual clip for this? I have my suspicions if that was even a question. I am pretty certain IO would have mentioned that in his post if it had. Plus I texted him that he had to do a shot every time the word free was mentioned. 🤣🤣 Because to speak, they had to raise their hands to reply. I was even joking with IO last night saying there were points where it reminded me of some of my class discussions...seeing the hands go up as if they could not wait to say something, and then would lose control and blurt something out. 

If we can catch a weekend debate, we should make a drinking game out of it. I ain't got @Lysander I have to get up and go to work in the morning. 

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SF didn't watch either debate, however the commentary afterwards is pretty good.

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=241359

MADDOW: “Vice president Biden, 30 seconds.”

BIDEN: “A real 30 seconds?”

MADDOW: “A real 30 seconds.”

“I’m the only person that beat the NRA nationally,” Biden boasted. “I’m the guy that got the Brady Bill passed, background checks, number one. Number two, we increased that background check during the Obama-Biden administration. I’m also the only guy that got assault weapons banned, banned, and the number of clips in a gun banned.”

OK......I'm not aware of a gun that could ever hold more than one clip at a time......

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5 minutes ago, swordfish said:

SF didn't watch either debate, however the commentary afterwards is pretty good.

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=241359

MADDOW: “Vice president Biden, 30 seconds.”

BIDEN: “A real 30 seconds?”

MADDOW: “A real 30 seconds.”

“I’m the only person that beat the NRA nationally,” Biden boasted. “I’m the guy that got the Brady Bill passed, background checks, number one. Number two, we increased that background check during the Obama-Biden administration. I’m also the only guy that got assault weapons banned, banned, and the number of clips in a gun banned.”

OK......I'm not aware of a gun that could ever hold more than one clip at a time......

I'm not aware of any increase in background checks during the BHO administration either. Aside from the Clinton era assault weapons ban, what other assault weapons bans have there been, that crazy Uncle Joe might be talking about. 

I'm all about pleasing the people SF. Here's one of the guns Biden had banned. Christmases have never been safer.

 

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8 hours ago, Impartial_Observer said:

As a high ranking elite member of the media perhaps you could tell us. I’ve never seen it. 

NRA shut it down this week. And the #2 NRA official resigned.

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On 6/28/2019 at 10:03 PM, BARRYOSAMA said:

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Winner!

As a soccer player......One of the best......

As a "Trump Beater" per the thread title.......She's a Kapernick wannabe.....

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