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The Democrat's roster for a Trump - beater in 2020


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27 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Anyone care to explain the difference?

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It is a fair question and criticism to be sure. That said, the story is getting a lot of attention now. The questions that could also be asked, are things like, this was 27 years ago, way back in his past, why bring it up now? Will people investigate the accuser and the story the same as they did Kavanaugh’s accuser? If holes start to appear in the story, will he be defended as vehemently as people did Kavanaugh? 

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21 minutes ago, Irishman said:

It is a fair question and criticism to be sure. That said, the story is getting a lot of attention now. The questions that could also be asked, are things like, this was 27 years ago, way back in his past, why bring it up now? Will people investigate the accuser and the story the same as they did Kavanaugh’s accuser? If holes start to appear in the story, will he be defended as vehemently as people did Kavanaugh? 

Sure it will, because the media is not biased, is it?  Methinks that is the true point of this issue, not the evidence of the charge in either case, just the coverage......

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11 hours ago, swordfish said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-sanders-campaign-officials-slam-biden-endorsement

So now that Bernie "endorses" Biden, will his people move over to the Biden camp or simply walk away from the Dem party?

I frequently watch podcasts of staunch Bernie supporters. They are very disappointed with Sanders and claim they will never vote for Biden. These people are far left socialists who routinely slam the Democrat party.  I expect most Bernie supporters will either vote third party or stay home on election day.

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On 4/14/2020 at 9:13 PM, Howe said:

I frequently watch podcasts of staunch Bernie supporters. They are very disappointed with Sanders and claim they will never vote for Biden. These people are far left socialists who routinely slam the Democrat party.  I expect most Bernie supporters will either vote third party or stay home on election day.

I disagree.

The people that you are listening to won't, a lot of his hardcore base won't. 

I saw somewhere that 70-75 percent of Bernie Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in 2016. Those aren't his hardcore followers. I think that might actually increase this time to 75-80 percent. Biden and Bernie are actually friends, biden is generally more liked compared to Clinton. Im a bernie supporter and im voting Biden in November. 

Biden will do much better in Milwaukee, Detroit and Philadelphia then what Clinton did...and those are the 3 areas that hurt Clinton the most (lack of black vote)

 

 

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On 4/14/2020 at 9:51 AM, swordfish said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/bernie-sanders-endorses-joe-biden/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-sanders-campaign-officials-slam-biden-endorsement

So now that Bernie "endorses" Biden, will his people move over to the Biden camp or simply walk away from the Dem party?

70-75 percent of Bernie Supporters supported Clinton. 

Bernie and Biden are friends, Biden is generally more liked then what Clinton is. I bet you'll see an increase of a few percent. 

Its gonna be a very, very tight race. 

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1 hour ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

70-75 percent of Bernie Supporters supported Clinton. 

Bernie and Biden are friends, Biden is generally more liked then what Clinton is. I bet you'll see an increase of a few percent. 

Its gonna be a very, very tight race. 

Well he's gonna need every one of them Sanders votes he can get.

SF isTotally ignoring the allegations of that lady from years ago, (there will be no coverage anyway, so drop it - not worth it) Former Vice President Joe Biden will get destroyed by the President.  He is truly exhibiting signs of dementia or at the very least his mind is getting too weak to process or handle the complex issues that are coming up.  He literally can't maintain a speech or presser for more than 15 minutes.  

My suspicion is that with Sanders out of the race, the Dems are positioning Cuomo to move in some capacity at the convention or something like that.  He's the fallback position for the left. (IMHO)

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2 hours ago, swordfish said:

Well he's gonna need every one of them Sanders votes he can get.

SF isTotally ignoring the allegations of that lady from years ago, (there will be no coverage anyway, so drop it - not worth it) Former Vice President Joe Biden will get destroyed by the President.  He is truly exhibiting signs of dementia or at the very least his mind is getting too weak to process or handle the complex issues that are coming up.  He literally can't maintain a speech or presser for more than 15 minutes.  

My suspicion is that with Sanders out of the race, the Dems are positioning Cuomo to move in some capacity at the convention or something like that.  He's the fallback position for the left. (IMHO)

Biden isn't the only one thats showed signs. 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/09/does-donald-trump-have-dementia-we-need-know-psychologist-column/3404007002/

What states will trump bring to the right that went to Clinton? 

Trump, if he wins.. Will win like he did last time. 

Biden, if he wins. Will win back PA, Mich and Wisconsin. 

If Detriot, Philly and Milwaukee vote normal numbers like they usually do. Biden will win. 

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7 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

This is a dude Dems prob can't win over. 

Shouldn't even try. 

He has over 712K subscribers who watch his podcasts. There are several other Bernie supporters who have a similar number of subscribers. TYT has over 3 million. They have a larger audience than CNN and MSNBC combined.

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6 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

He must be really good.  He doesn't need God' help.

Kind of a slapping Biden's face with this one......

But until he is on the ballet....this is just a pipedream for Dems and their new flavor of the month.......

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5 hours ago, Howe said:

He has over 712K subscribers who watch his podcasts. There are several other Bernie supporters who have a similar number of subscribers. TYT has over 3 million. They have a larger audience than CNN and MSNBC combined.

So? That doesn't change my point. Hes someone who will never vote for Biden. He probably didn't vote for Clinton in 2016.  You aren't gonna reach those type of Bernie supporters...not all of those people are as hardcore as he is. I watch The Young Turks but I'm voting for Biden even if they say don't. 

Biden is more popular, more likeable and has a better relationship with Bernie... This is why I think hell do better with Bernie supporters then Clinton did. 

37 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

He must be really good.  He doesn't need God' help.

Kind of a slapping Biden's face with this one......

But until he is on the ballet....this is just a pipedream for Dems and their new flavor of the month.......

Well god doesn't exist so...

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4 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

Yea...Joe was real likeable when arguing with the factory employee in Michigan over gun control. Didn’t Joe tell him he’s full of sh*t and ask him to step outside? 

Do you think Bernie supporters will expect a leader than can complete a sentence and remember what occurred 5 min earlier? You can try to put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, it’s still a pig.

 

 

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I would have bet nothing could exceed the ineptness of the GOP, but I was wrong. To go through the year long publicity stunt that was the impeachment process, and the best the Dems could come up with is Sleepy Joe? Somehow, the American political process has mutated so that it now operates to de-select any person of substance as a viable candidate.

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5 hours ago, Bobref said:

I would have bet nothing could exceed the ineptness of the GOP, but I was wrong. To go through the year long publicity stunt that was the impeachment process, and the best the Dems could come up with is Sleepy Joe? Somehow, the American political process has mutated so that it now operates to de-select any person of substance as a viable candidate.

The impeachment process was not a publicity stunt.

Donald Trump did impeachable offenses. If the GOP was the GOP of the nixon years. Trump would have booted out awhile ago. 

The GOP voted to elect Ronald Reagan to a 2nd term and he was struggling worse then Biden... The GOP couldn't come up with someone else?

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11 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

Yea...Joe was real likeable when arguing with the factory employee in Michigan over gun control. Didn’t Joe tell him he’s full of sh*t and ask him to step outside? 

Do you think Bernie supporters will expect a leader than can complete a sentence and remember what occurred 5 min earlier? You can try to put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, it’s still a pig.

 

 

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Donald Trump has cheated on every single one of his wives. 

Made fun of a special needs reporter

Makes fun of his political rivals

Trump has encouraged violence at his rallies. 

And you think that's likeable? 

People voted for Donald Trump who doesn't understand the constitution, who doesn't understand policy, who doesn't know how government works... 

Yes Biden is more likeable then Clinton. 

70-75 percent of Bernie Sanders supporters voted for Clinton.  Biden's approval rating at this time is higher then Clinton's in 2016. Biden and Bernie get a long better.. A lot better then Bernie and Clinton. That's going to help...which is why i think you'll see an increase. 

Biden needs to hold on every state Clinton won (which is very doable) and win Michigan, Penn and Wisconsin.  2 of which JUST ELECTED dem govs in 2018 and 1 re elected their Dem gov. .  its gonna be a very, very tight race. 

You aren't the smartest dude on this forum. Stop acting or treating others like you are. 

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3 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

You aren't the smartest dude on this forum. Stop acting or treating others like you are. 

Sheltering in place is making some people cranky. Seems like I may have touched a nerve here.

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2 hours ago, Bobref said:

Sheltering in place is making some people cranky. Seems like I may have touched a nerve here.

I’m currently watch Rolling Thunder Revue on Netflix, I highly recommend such endeavors over pandemic discussion on CNN and political campaigns which are on hold indefinitely.

 

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23 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

We were talking about Biden...not Trump.  But, I see you shifted the goalpost.

Biden has been in Federal Politics for 40+ years....and now he is going to get busy and make a difference?  He has a full time job protecting his son and getting complete sentences out of his mouth.  

Love your optimism....and you can insult me all you wish.  Not insulting you, but if you think that necessary, knock yourself out.  At the end of the day, what you may think of me means absolutely nothing...to me and others.

No im not moving the goal posts...im just calling you out on your hypocrisy because if you have faults with Biden and don't see any of Trump's glaring issues..That's being a hypocrite

Hes co sponsored or created bills in the house, the Senate and helped push stuff along as the VP. To say Hes been in Gov for 40 years and done nothing is stupid. 

If they had stuff on Hunter Biden the senate would have moved on it as soon as Joe announced he was running. They have barely done anything. 

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