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54 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

It hasn't been on the other foot, at least not since 1876. The last 2 Republican Presidents elected did not win the popular vote.

In other words, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as intended.

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15 minutes ago, Bobref said:

In other words, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as intended.

The best visual I saw for this was a map of counties across the country. It showed a handful of counties in New York, LA and Chicago in blue while most of the country was in red. It explained that the population in those few counties was greater than all the red. I am fine with the EC remaining. I do think some states have neutralized themselves though. I believe Maine is one state that splits its EC votes based on the popular vote percentages. I am not sure how many states do something similar. 

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1 hour ago, Bobref said:

In other words, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as intended.

That's hard to say. It's open to interpretation what the Constitutional Convention intended since none of them are around anymore to comment. It's the process in place and not likely to be changed. 

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5 hours ago, Muda69 said:

You must be a fan of allowing the residents of the New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago metropolitan areas deciding all future presidential elections.  

I'm not.

 

One of the things you're best at is fabricating opinions of others. You don't have a clue what I'm a fan of. 

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2 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

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https://www.the-sun.com/news/833743/gaffe-machine-joe-biden-millions-died-85000-jobs-coronavirus/

Watching this video...holy cow....wow.....that poor man is really, really struggling.......

Yep; that was bad...like I said in the post I made; the two major parties under the current process have left us two super duper buffoons. lol

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1 hour ago, gonzoron said:

One of the things you're best at is fabricating opinions of others. You don't have a clue what I'm a fan of. 

Don't get your extra-large sized panties in a wad, Shirley.

It's no fabrication, Shirley.  Your previous criticism of the electoral college system tells us all we need to know.

But then again you are a GID liar,  so it's a real possibility you are lying about your criticism as well.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Your previous criticism of the electoral college system tells us all we need to know.

A fabrication.

 

13 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

But then again you are a GID liar,  so it's a real possibility you are lying about your criticism as well.

An outright lie.

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17 hours ago, gonzoron said:

A fabrication.

 

An outright lie.

Hmm, so you admit your criticism of the electoral college was a fabrication, aka a lie.  Nice to admit it, isn't it?

 

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24 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Hmm, so you admit your criticism of the electoral college was a fabrication, aka a lie.  Nice to admit it, isn't it?

 

I didn’t criticize it. I stated a fact concerning it.

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Feminists Who Now Claim They Never Meant 'Believe All Women' Are Gaslighting Us

https://reason.com/2020/05/19/believe-all-women-me-too-feminists-biden-reade/

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The emergence of Tara Reade's accusation of sexual assault against presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden has prompted the swift and sudden collapse of the #MeToo movement's central tenet—that all women who come forward with such allegations deserve to be believed.

In fact, some who speak for the movement aren't merely retreating on this point: They are pretending that feminists who wielded the #MeToo hashtag never claimed that all women should be believed. This is a transparent attempt to rewrite history and should be treated as such.

For a perfect example, see the journalist Susan Faludi in The New York Times: "'Believe All Women' Is a Right-Wing Trap," reads the headline on her article. Faludi accuses conservatives of inventing the idea that feminists were demanding that all women be believed. According to her, "the preferred hashtag of the #MeToo movement is #BelieveWomen. It's different without the 'all.' Believing women is simply the rejoinder to the ancient practice of #DoubtWomen."

"Good luck finding any feminist who thinks we should believe everything all women say—even what they say about sexual assault," Faludi continues. This directly contradicts her earlier admittal that she had in fact "encountered some feminists who seemed genuinely to subscribe" to the more extreme interpretation of the hashtag.

Faludi is narrowly right that "believe women" was the more popular phrasing among #MeToo activists, and that contrarians were more likely to introduce the word "all" as a means of pointing out how silly the concept was. But whether the phrase contains "all" is unimportant: It means the same thing, regardless. The command to believe group X is straightforwardly and obviously a plea to have faith in the entire collective entity. Faludi claims in her piece that "believe women" is actually the opposite of "believe all women," but this is absurd. She is, to use a term beloved by victims' rights advocates, gaslighting her readers.

One of Faludi's examples of a sensible "believe women" statement getting twisted into a "believe all women" attack was Juanita Broaddrick—who accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault—calling out Hillary Clinton for hypocrisy. Hillary had tweeted, "To every survivor of sexual assault … you have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed." Faludi shames contrarians for cynically appending a "believe all victims" hashtag alongside a question mark, but it's right there in Clinton's initial tweet, between the words to and survivor. #MeToo advocates demanded a presumption of belief for every individual who claims to be a sexual misconduct victim: i.e., believe all women.

It was equally clear when Biden stated the mantra during the Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court confirmation hearings: "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about is real—whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it's been made worse or better over time." Biden was clearly instructing the public to believe even the allegations that seem doubtful or flawed: The all is unstated but quite implicit.

The problem, of course, is that the implication of this mantra is ridiculous. We know that some women lie—not because they are women but because they are human beings, and human beings are capable of all sorts of deceptions, large and small. It's the task of journalists to consider claims, gather evidence, and help the public to make informed decisions. Belief is not really an aspect of this process.

In truth, believe-victims activists have been making generous use of the motte-and-bailey fallacy. This is a form of argument in which a person makes a strong, unreasonable, and indefensible claim—the bailey—and then falls back on an uncontroversial claim—the motte—when challenged. With "believe victims," the bailey position was something like what Biden and Clinton said: Presume that each and every alleged victim is telling the truth. The motte position is closer to this: Respect and support alleged victims, and don't automatically discount what they say. In the wake of Reade's allegations against him, Biden has unsurprisingly retreated to the motte.

The "respect and support" position obviously enjoys broad support—only the crueler corners of the internet would profess that victims should be mistreated and rejected as a general rule. To the extent that the #MeToo movement encouraged people to be more supportive and more open-minded when women accuse men of sexual assault, it has helped fix a great injustice. But the movement's sloganeering attracted well-deserved criticism, and the abandonment of the literal believe-victims standard is equally welcome and long overdue.

Let no one claim, however, that the mantra was some figment of the imagination, like the proverbial flickering gaslight.

 

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On 5/15/2020 at 4:01 PM, TrojanDad said:

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https://www.the-sun.com/news/833743/gaffe-machine-joe-biden-millions-died-85000-jobs-coronavirus/

Watching this video...holy cow....wow.....that poor man is really, really struggling.......

If you don't have a problem with Trumps age and Gaffes. You shouldn't be going after Biden.

 

But you dont understand what a hypocrite is. 

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7 minutes ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

If you don't have a problem with Trumps age and Gaffes. You shouldn't be going after Biden.

Neither individual is fit for the White House. 

Vote third party, or don't vote at all.

Who currently has your vote for POTUS, UW?

 

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1 hour ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

If you don't have a problem with Trumps age and Gaffes. You shouldn't be going after Biden.

 

But you dont understand what a hypocrite is. 

Never made an age comment.

Trump doesn't compare to the number of Biden's gaffes.  Not remotely close.

Are all of these sources hypocrites?  Lot more out there....just type "biden gaffes" into your favorite search engine.  

Look, either accept Joe has his challenges public speaking or don't.  Your call.

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-2020-gaffes-campaign-1482189

http://archive.boston.com/news/politics/gallery/100108_biden_gaffes/

https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/joe-biden-makes-series-of-gaffes-in-long-day-of-cable-news-appearances/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-new-biden-shorter-speeches-and-less-time-for-gaffes/2020/03/09/b5bacf28-61a9-11ea-845d-e35b0234b136_story.html

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/why-joe-bidens-gaffes-matter

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/technology/joe-biden-internet.html

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joe-biden-gaffe-alert-stuns-043232408.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/a-brief-history-of-joe-biden-gaffes-337489987777

 

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32 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

To be fair, Joe has had a LOT more time in public office to pile up the stats on gaffes. The ones in the video I posted from his 88 campaign are classic.. 😀 Now, if we want to compare the quality of the gaffes.....could be fun. 😂

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I’d say it’s too close to call on the number of gaffes. They’re both pretty consistent at it.

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5 minutes ago, Irishman said:

To be fair, Joe has had a LOT more time in public office to pile up the stats on gaffes.

A career politician.  Another reason not to vote for Mr. Biden.

 

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Biden 2020 strategy gives Trump this massive opportunity

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-2020-strategy-gives-trump-opportunity-ben-shapiro

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In national polling, former Vice President Joe Biden is the clear 2020 front-runner. He's up nearly five points in the RealClearPolitics polling average; he's up in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida and Arizona.

That's because Biden campaigned as the anti-Bernie Sanders: a "return to normalcy" candidate rather than a transformational one. His entire pitch relied on his high name recognition, the general perception of his likability and his unthreatening demeanor.

The coronavirus pandemic merely underscored this pitch. Biden hasn't waned in the national polling since the pandemic — his lead has been utterly consistent. That's true even though Biden has been relegated to his basement, gaffing through completely anodyne statements about COVID-19, glitching his way to a few thousand viewers at a time, being interrupted by the birds honking outside his window.

How can a major party candidate win if nobody cares whether he's even alive?

Because Biden's candidacy isn't a referendum on Biden but on Trump: President Donald Trump is widely perceived as volatile, unstable, chaotic. Biden is perceived as somnambulant. Better a sleepwalker, many voters seem to think, than the rolling chaos of a second Trump term.

Yet somehow, the Biden campaign has decided to abandon Biden's greatest advantage: his promise of a sedated interregnum.

Instead, according to The New York Times, Biden's campaign will embrace radical proposals. "With Mr. Biden leading President Trump in the polls, the former vice president and other Democratic leaders are racing to assemble a new governing agenda that meets the extraordinary times — and they agree it must be far bolder than anything the party establishment has embraced before," The Times reported.

Some of the new proposals are directly from the Sanders campaign: forgiving student loans, a Green New Deal, expansion of government health care, a government jobs plan, a ban on stock buybacks and compulsion toward profit sharing for corporations.

Meanwhile, former President Barack Obama explained over the weekend that the coronavirus has merely underscored deep-seated American racism that requires a complete remaking of our society. Equating disparate health and incomes between black Americans and white Americans due to COVID-19 with the shooting of black Georgian Ahmaud Arbery — and citing both as legacies of America's historic racism — Obama stated, "No generation has been better positioned to be warriors for justice and remake the world."

But do Americans really want the world remade? Or are they simply longing for the world of four months ago, when unemployment stood at 3.5 percent, when incomes were rising at the lowest end of the income scale, when Americans could attend events without fear of infection and death?

Are Americans truly desperate for a reshaping of our medical system, a universal basic income and trillions more in debt?

Biden seems to be betting on the latter. And that's idiocy of the highest order. It completely undermines his entire case for the nomination; it allows Trump to place the new radical agenda front and center, rather than his own foibles.

Biden's go-for-broke strategy is a massive opportunity for Trump — if Trump doesn't blow it.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

A career politician.  Another reason not to vote for Mr. Biden.

 

I’d say the number of reasons not to vote for either one of them are too close to call also.

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59 minutes ago, Irishman said:

To be fair, Joe has had a LOT more time in public office to pile up the stats on gaffes. The ones in the video I posted from his 88 campaign are classic.. 😀 Now, if we want to compare the quality of the gaffes.....could be fun. 😂

Yes he has. 

I think thats what helped Trump in 2016 against Clinton. 

He wasnt a "politician" and she was, could easily attack her stances. 

Now in 2020, Itll be much easier for the Dem nominee to attack. 

Tax cut, his terrible handling of covid-19, the firing of IG's because they were doing their job, the mass corruption, the wall never being fully built, the attacks on healthcare and so on. 

 

When Biden wins in 2020, he won't run in 2024 and thats when you'll see even more fresh newer faces in both Democrat and Republican races.

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1 hour ago, Irishman said:

To be fair, Joe has had a LOT more time in public office to pile up the stats on gaffes. The ones in the video I posted from his 88 campaign are classic.. 😀 Now, if we want to compare the quality of the gaffes.....could be fun. 😂

Most of the articles are talking about fairly recent gaffes and the impact they are causing to his current campaign.  

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52 minutes ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

can't wait for Biden to have a dem house and a dem senate too. 

Socialism FTW.   And your children and grandchildren will be paying for it.

 

 

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