Coach Nowlin Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Annual meeting in Charming Chalmers Indiana by members of Region 4 resulted in these young men (1 lady) selected to 2018 team. Congratulations IFCA Region 4 Submission 2019-01-28.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCKathleticsupporter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Tough break for Cass - 2 kids on Jr. All State team and senior O-lineman/D End that could have started for any team we played. Yet not a single player here. So coaching vendettas against other teams get in the way or were the players on a 4-6 Logansport, 5-6 Twin Lakes, or 6-6 Judson teams just that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach-Ref_Kiser Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, LCKathleticsupporter said: Tough break for Cass - 2 kids on Jr. All State team and senior O-lineman/D End that could have started for any team we played. Yet not a single player here. So coaching vendettas against other teams get in the way or were the players on a 4-6 Logansport, 5-6 Twin Lakes, or 6-6 Judson teams just that good? First, you do realize this Region All-Star team is Seniors only, correct? In addition, I would say typically, this type of situation for the Senior you mention is due to the Head Coach not nominating his players - can't get votes if they aren't nominated. Edited January 28, 2019 by Coach-Ref_Kiser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCKathleticsupporter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Senior in question was nominated at meeting. Just didn't get votes I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olinecoach Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I only saw a handful of these kids play on film, but it looks like OL and DE were two of the toughest positions to get nominated for in this region... Not saying the Cass kid was not deserving, but my goodness there are some studs listed on the team! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullhorn99 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, LCKathleticsupporter said: . . . So coaching vendettas against other teams get in the way . . . Interesting conclusion to jump to. Why do you go that direction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCKathleticsupporter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 It doesn't happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullhorn99 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, LCKathleticsupporter said: It doesn't happen? That doesn't answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCKathleticsupporter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just an observation that's all. There are senior players on the IFCA ALL STATE team who didn't make the region team. There are also players on the region squad that did not make the IFCA ALL State team. Would it make sense that if you are selected on an All STATE team, you would be good enough to make a region team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punttheball Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I will comment as a coach that was at the meeting. The Cass athlete was nominated by his coaches. There are a healthy amount of good players in our region. The particular player did not necessarily stack up in the measurables as well as the other players. He was a kid that got better all season. He was an average player at the beginning of the season and made himself into a better than average player by the end. He received IFCA All State, AP All State, Kokomo Tribune, and All Logan Land. He was also Academic All State and Team Captain. Not a bad senior year. Region All Star would have put the cherry on top for his season. There were some teams with lesser records that got kids on. It does not mean that they were any less deserving. I cannot try to reason how a 6-4 team gets 3 guys on and a 7-5 none. It sometimes comes down to the number of kids nominated in a position group. I will also add that this is the first year in 2 years that any Cass coaches went to the meeting. There have been conflicts and miss communication at times that have prevented in coaches attending. This may not sit well with some coaches. I don't know. But there is a responsibility that comes with coaching, and representing your team when you have kids to nominate and when you don't is one of those. I will say it was disappointing, but it does not define this kid. I talked with him last night, and he was good with it. Like I said, it was going to be the cherry on top. Nothing more. Coach Shaffer Lewis Cass Assistant Father of the player 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachDurham Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, LCKathleticsupporter said: Tough break for Cass - 2 kids on Jr. All State team and senior O-lineman/D End that could have started for any team we played. Yet not a single player here. So coaching vendettas against other teams get in the way or were the players on a 4-6 Logansport, 5-6 Twin Lakes, or 6-6 Judson teams just that good? You listed Logansport, Twin Lakes, and North Judson. None of these teams had a player selected over yours at his position. So what is the point of mentioning them? 45 minutes ago, LCKathleticsupporter said: Just an observation that's all. There are senior players on the IFCA ALL STATE team who didn't make the region team. There are also players on the region squad that did not make the IFCA ALL State team. Would it make sense that if you are selected on an All STATE team, you would be good enough to make a region team? I think in the fact All-State teams are selected by class, and the Region has No Class. It is all encompassing. So I do understand what your saying, I do not think that argument holds much water. I have been going to this meeting for longer than these kids we are voting on have been alive. I have had some very deserving kids and managers who did not make this team. It does not take away from their success and accomplishments. He is a heck of a football player I am sure. You do not get those type of accolades if you are not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullhorn99 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, LCKathleticsupporter said: Just an observation that's all. Seemed like an accusation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:25 PM, Punttheball said: I will comment as a coach that was at the meeting. The Cass athlete was nominated by his coaches. There are a healthy amount of good players in our region. The particular player did not necessarily stack up in the measurables as well as the other players. He was a kid that got better all season. He was an average player at the beginning of the season and made himself into a better than average player by the end. He received IFCA All State, AP All State, Kokomo Tribune, and All Logan Land. He was also Academic All State and Team Captain. Not a bad senior year. Region All Star would have put the cherry on top for his season. There were some teams with lesser records that got kids on. It does not mean that they were any less deserving. I cannot try to reason how a 6-4 team gets 3 guys on and a 7-5 none. It sometimes comes down to the number of kids nominated in a position group. I will also add that this is the first year in 2 years that any Cass coaches went to the meeting. There have been conflicts and miss communication at times that have prevented in coaches attending. This may not sit well with some coaches. I don't know. But there is a responsibility that comes with coaching, and representing your team when you have kids to nominate and when you don't is one of those. I will say it was disappointing, but it does not define this kid. I talked with him last night, and he was good with it. Like I said, it was going to be the cherry on top. Nothing more. Coach Shaffer Lewis Cass Assistant Father of the player Class as always Sir!! On 1/28/2019 at 1:35 PM, CoachDurham said: You listed Logansport, Twin Lakes, and North Judson. None of these teams had a player selected over yours at his position. So what is the point of mentioning them? I think in the fact All-State teams are selected by class, and the Region has No Class. It is all encompassing. So I do understand what your saying, I do not think that argument holds much water. I have been going to this meeting for longer than these kids we are voting on have been alive. I have had some very deserving kids and managers who did not make this team. It does not take away from their success and accomplishments. He is a heck of a football player I am sure. You do not get those type of accolades if you are not. This guy knows a thing or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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