Muda69 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/09/17/atheists-pressure-in-school-to-remove-teachers-religious-political-propaganda/ Quote A couple of weeks ago, the Northern Indiana Atheists voiced their concerns about a local public school teacher who was allegedly promoting his political and religious agenda in the class. As they explained it, Mike Hosinski, a World Civilizations teacher at Jimtown High School in Elkhart, had violated all sorts of rules in the classroom. They had three families with students in the school who were willing to join their complaint. Their concern were things like these bumper stickers and posters promoting Hosinski’s conservative views: That’s just two of them. There are so many more right here. Then there’s what he allegedly said in class, according to one of the families: … Hosinski told the class Hillary and Obama are criminals, President Donald Trump is great, and Democrats are liars. He told them abortion should be illegal. My student says ‘he told the class Bill Clinton’s friend takes little girls to a sex island and anyone who finds out is killed. Korea has nukes, something about Muslims taking over, and something about gay people getting married… When Hosinski said poor people don’t have jobs but spend money on alcohol and drugs, my student, feeling the need to defend our family, said “I’m poor. My dad has a job and my parents don’t spend money on alcohol or drugs.” A former student also told NIA that Hosinski “showed us cartoon slides of a partial birth abortion.” (Why that would ever be relevant in the classroom, I have no idea.) In addition to all that, the NIA says the school itself promotes Christianity on its walls, with religious quotations and a “prominent Fellowship of Christian Students/Athletes display” in the hall. That’s why the NIA asked members to contact the Baugo Community Schools board and voice their concerns. The superintendent of the district and the administrators at the high school still haven’t responded to my request for comment. However, yesterday, the NIA said they received a response from the district confirming their allegations. The board also said it would take immediate action. The administration of Baugo Community Schools learned of a social media thread that alleged a teacher was violating church-state separation in one of our buildings. Those allegations were taken seriously. In this instance, there were materials that could have been interpreted as bias. They were provided by students in an effort to contribute to an orderly, systematic classroom discussion protocol that has been used in this classroom. In compliance with board policy however, any materials that could advance partisan political or religious views were removed. Efforts will continue to ensure that teaching techniques in our schools do not violate civil liberties and a clear separation between church and state is honored. Baugo Community Schools recognizes the dignity and rights of all of our students and will exercise great care to afford them their civil rights… They didn’t address the Christian displays in the hallway. They also didn’t say what punishment, if any, Hosinski will receive. But they removed the most egregious problems in the classroom. Hopefully, that’ll be the warning shot for everyone else. Kudos to the NIA for taking quick action and resolving the issue before it escalated any further. Agreed. Kudos to the NIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 While SF applauds this guy's efforts to further Christianity - I said it before and will say it again - public schools are not where you want your kids to be exposed to religion. It's an all or nothing game. If you allow Christianity, you have have to allow anything else. Public school is not where you want your kids taught what your belief system is, and it is against the law. The same rules apply to the other religions as well. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, swordfish said: While SF applauds this guy's efforts to further Christianity - I said it before and will say it again - public schools are not where you want your kids to be exposed to religion. It's an all or nothing game. If you allow Christianity, you have have to allow anything else. Public school is not where you want your kids taught what your belief system is, and it is against the law. The same rules apply to the other religions as well. Makes perfect sense. But there’s also that pesky Constitution thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bobref said: Makes perfect sense. But there’s also that pesky Constitution thing... Which part? Separation of church and State in a government school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Which part? Separation of church and State in a government school? The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bobref said: The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Has there been a case where that supersedes abridging the freedom of speech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Has there been a case where that supersedes abridging the freedom of speech? You’ll have to explain that a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bobref said: You’ll have to explain that a little better. As the authors of the First Amendment should have also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, swordfish said: While SF applauds this guy's efforts to further Christianity - Lol wut? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/20/2019 at 7:56 PM, DanteEstonia said: Lol wut? The Biblical term is "witness". Since you had to ask, SF surmises you wouldn't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 1:20 PM, swordfish said: The Biblical term is "witness". Since you had to ask, SF surmises you wouldn't understand. Let’s put it this way- if I had a teacher who used instructional time to preach to me, it would turn me away from Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said: Let’s put it this way- if I had a teacher who used instructional time to preach to me, it would turn me away from Christianity. Good for you. Like I said - religion has no place in public schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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