PHJIrish Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Catholics vs. Catholics is always tough! I'm sure ex-Cathedral OC Mic Roessler, now HC at Brebeuf, would like nothing better than to pull off another upset win over the Irish. The Irish will have to be at their best Friday night for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) interesting stat . . . Orin Edwards has 18 TD passes . . . Cameron Jordan has 13 TD receptions . . . Edited October 8, 2019 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmizers3 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, PHJIrish said: Catholics vs. Catholics is always tough! I'm sure ex-Cathedral OC Mic Roessler, now HC at Brebeuf, would like nothing better than to pull off another upset win over the Irish. The Irish will have to be at their best Friday night for this one. Irish should win this by at least 3 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan88 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 11 hours ago, CaptainHook said: interesting stat . . . Orin Edwards has 18 TD passes . . . Cameron Jordan has 13 TD receptions . . . interesting stat...Kyle Cheek has 18 TD passes...Andrew Sowinski has 15 TD receptions... I know this is not a Chatard topic, but the similarity is interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 12 hours ago, PHJIrish said: Catholics vs. Catholics is always tough! I'm sure ex-Cathedral OC Mic Roessler, now HC at Brebeuf, would like nothing better than to pull off another upset win over the Irish. The Irish will have to be at their best Friday night for this one. My friends that attended Creighton would spend hours explaining to me that Catholic and Jesuit aren't the same thing. LOL The Chatard scores would indicate that Cathedral is the favorite. Based on past history though, Brebeuf week 1 and week 8 are completely different teams. Coach Roessler's teams get better as the season wears on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 55 minutes ago, Trojan88 said: interesting stat...Kyle Cheek has 18 TD passes...Andrew Sowinski has 15 TD receptions... I know this is not a Chatard topic, but the similarity is interesting... Funny - was thinking the exact same thing last night when I saw the earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said: Coach Roessler's teams get better as the season wears on. Seems to be the case (as both Cathedral and West Lafayette learned a couple of years back) but the Brebeuf/Culver game every year baffles me as to how close it ends up (or even when Culver won) when Brebeuf should be a huge favorite. Last week’s Brebeuf/Terre Haute score made me scratch my head a bit also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 13 hours ago, PHJIrish said: Catholics vs. Catholics is always tough! But I thought Brebeuf was no longer a Catholic institution, at least according to the Indy Archdiocese : https://www.indystar.com/story/news/education/2019/08/05/brebeuf-jesuit-appeals-split-catholic-church-barred-holding-mass/1920187001/ Quote The Indianapolis high school stripped of its Catholic identity over the employment of a gay teacher in a same-sex marriage has taken its case to Rome. Brebeuf Jesuit Preparatory School is appealing the decision of the Indianapolis Archdiocese to no longer recognize the school as Catholic. Archbishop Charles C. Thompson issued a decree cutting ties with Brebeuf in June after the school refused to fire Layton Payne-Elliott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan88 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lysander said: Seems to be the case (as both Cathedral and West Lafayette learned a couple of years back) but the Brebeuf/Culver game every year baffles me as to how close it ends up (or even when Culver won) when Brebeuf should be a huge favorite. Last week’s Brebeuf/Terre Haute score made me scratch my head a bit also. 1 hour ago, oldtimeqb said: My friends that attended Creighton would spend hours explaining to me that Catholic and Jesuit aren't the same thing. LOL The Chatard scores would indicate that Cathedral is the favorite. Based on past history though, Brebeuf week 1 and week 8 are completely different teams. Coach Roessler's teams get better as the season wears on. Without question - Brebeuf has always trended up as the season progresses. They are more than ready come playoff time and usually trending in the right direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, Muda69 said: But I thought Brebeuf was no longer a Catholic institution, at least according to the Indy Archdiocese : https://www.indystar.com/story/news/education/2019/08/05/brebeuf-jesuit-appeals-split-catholic-church-barred-holding-mass/1920187001/ It's definitely Catholic as it is still recognized by the Jesuit order, it just isn't recognized by the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Footballking16 said: It's definitely Catholic as it is still recognized by the Jesuit order, it just isn't recognized by the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. So the "Catholic authority" if you will of the Jesuit order trumps that of an Archdiocese? Sorry, just trying to understand the Catholic hierarchy/bureaucracy here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Muda69 said: So the "Catholic authority" if you will of the Jesuit order trumps that of an Archdiocese? Sorry, just trying to understand the Catholic hierarchy/bureaucracy here. The Vatican has paused the decision in Indy until a full hearing takes place. https://www.indystar.com/story/news/education/2019/09/23/brebeuf-jesuit-vatican-temporarily-suspends-indianapolis-archdiocese-suspension-over-gay-teacher/2421202001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Muda69 said: So the "Catholic authority" if you will of the Jesuit order trumps that of an Archdiocese? Sorry, just trying to understand the Catholic hierarchy/bureaucracy here. Hard to do, really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysander Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Sounds like a great discussion for the “Out of Bounds”.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Robert said: Hard to do, really! Of that I have no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: So the "Catholic authority" if you will of the Jesuit order trumps that of an Archdiocese? Sorry, just trying to understand the Catholic hierarchy/bureaucracy here. Brebeuf isn't an Archdiocesan school. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said: Brebeuf isn't an Archdiocesan school. Then why did the Archdiocese supposedly think it had the authority to declare Brebeuf "no longer a Catholic school"? Sounds like a job for the Pope to straighten this out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballking16 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Then why did the Archdiocese supposedly think it had the authority to declare Brebeuf "no longer a Catholic school"? Sounds like a job for the Pope to straighten this out. The Archdiocese not recognizing Brebeuf as a catholic school has no bearing on Brebeuf's catholic affiliation. Brebeuf is still recognized as a catholic school by the Jesuit order and the Jesuit's are the ones who run and fund Brebeuf. Brebeuf doesn't need the Archdiocese and vice versa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Get back to the game talk. If you have other questions, there is already a topic on the ongoing matter in the Out of Bounds forum. I love seeing these two teams playing each other. Both are well coached teams. Having friends on both teams’ staffs, I am staying neutral. Best of luck to both teams. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Irishman said: Get back to the game talk. If you have other questions, there is already a topic on the ongoing matter in the Out of Bounds forum. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHJIrish Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Lysander said: Sounds like a great discussion for the “Out of Bounds”.... Yep! I had a feeling that Muda would muddy up this thread. I think I read somewhere that Brebeuf Jesuit will be on the New Pal schedule next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Eddy 14 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Correct, Brebeuf and Decatur Central will be their non conference games for next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeqb Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Lysander said: Sounds like a great discussion for the “Out of Bounds”.... I take responsibility for starting the Jesuit/Catholic discussion. My fault for trying to use humor. My line? It was a smart line. And a smart crowd would appreciate it. I’m not gonna dumb it down for some bonehead mass audience! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 50 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said: I take responsibility for starting the Jesuit/Catholic discussion. My fault for trying to use humor. My line? It was a smart line. And a smart crowd would appreciate it. I’m not gonna dumb it down for some bonehead mass audience! No need for taking responsibility. I chuckled when I read it, but you went right back to the game discussion. Someone else chose to go “deeper”. 🙂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaWrestlingGuy1 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 8 hours ago, oldtimeqb said: I take responsibility for starting the Jesuit/Catholic discussion. My fault for trying to use humor. My line? It was a smart line. And a smart crowd would appreciate it. I’m not gonna dumb it down for some bonehead mass audience! Unfortunately, thanks to our maligned, self serving Archbishop, both schools have been dealing with the fallout of his actions for more than 24 months now. Though we would all like to joke about it, it has pretty much shredded the local Catholic community between the schools (and across the entire Indy Archdiocese). Brebeuf will be entangled with the Vatican for months to come as they search to usurp the Indy Archdiocean scourge with the Jesuits as their advocate. Cathedral will be entangled as a key witness in a major federal discrimination suit that will go to the highest levels of the US federal courts. As for the game, the 2017 upset was Brebeuf’s greatest win ever in my opinion. A perfectly coached game by Coach Roessler had 3 huge punts pinning the Irish inside our own 10 yard line 3 times. Another bold 4th and 2 call from Brebeuf’s own 40 for a TD was game breaker. I hope the boys all remember that game. If so, the Irish should win big. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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