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3 hours ago, DT said:

This is not so much about the state of the Pike program, but more about issues of fairness and reciprocity.

At some point, money has to factor in to the equation.

It must be discouraging for CG to invest all this money in such a beautiful facility, and then see its closest allies, its conference brethren, blow it off while the CG caravan travels in full to every road game.  There is something just not right about that.

Truth is, CGs biggest home crowds in the past fifteen years have been against non con schools like Roncalli, Cathedral, Avon and New Pal.  Thats just not right.  

 

I see your point.  Disrespectful to fellow conference schools.  That continued low attendance does no one any good.

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Looks like we have a lot of massively overbuilt high school football facilities at a huge an unnecessary cost to state taxpayers

 

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15 minutes ago, DT said:

Looks like we have a lot of massively overbuilt high school football facilities at a huge an unnecessary cost to state taxpayers

 

Really hurts your "MIC fans don't travel narrative" doesn't it?

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22 minutes ago, DT said:

Looks like we have a lot of massively overbuilt high school football facilities at a huge an unnecessary cost to state taxpayers

 

I hear the ones in Texas are top flight..build it and they will come..i don't mind giving tax money to see our youth have a little fun in a nice atmosphere.  Downtrodden facilities may deter numbers and we do not want that "C" word to happen!

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Most, if not all, of the MIC stadium renovations were privately funded. 

 

Pot.  Stir.

45 minutes ago, DT said:

Looks like we have a lot of massively overbuilt high school football facilities at a huge an unnecessary cost to state taxpayers

 

 

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28 minutes ago, HoosierFB_JG said:

Most, if not all, of the MIC stadium renovations were privately funded. 

 

Pot.  Stir.

 

Highly doubtful.  Initial planning and construction were most likely included in the general contract to build the facility.  I would not be at all surprised to see private funding for projects like new turf, locker room expansion, exploding scoreboards,  giant inflatable helmets,  flying chest bump landing pits, Bro Shelters, etc, etc.

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53 minutes ago, Justasportsfan said:

I hear the ones in Texas are top flight..build it and they will come..i don't mind giving tax money to see our youth have a little fun in a nice atmosphere.  Downtrodden facilities may deter numbers and we do not want that "C" word to happen!

Have you ever seen the one in Allen, TX?  
 

Unreal.

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Just now, Gipper said:

Have you ever seen the one in Allen, TX?  
 

Unreal.

That facility in Allen had massive structural deficiencies.  Very dangerous.  Severe concrete settling problems.  Had to spend millions more to repair the place.  

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1 minute ago, Gipper said:

C word is inevitable...

Target 280

32/54/54/54/54/32

 

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8 minutes ago, DT said:

Highly doubtful.  Initial planning and construction were most likely included in the general contract to build the facility.  I would not be at all surprised to see private funding for projects like new turf, locker room expansion, exploding scoreboards,  giant inflatable helmets,  flying chest bump landing pits, Bro Shelters, etc, etc.

Ray Skillman helped CG out with their stadium renovation.

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4 minutes ago, cg_holmeaid said:

Ray Skillman helped CG out with their stadium renovation.

Does JB Paxson still work for Skillman?

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25 minutes ago, cg_holmeaid said:

Ray Skillman helped CG out with their stadium renovation.

Some renovations made sense like CG, Westfield,  Brownsburg. They needed the capacity and fans show up. It’s not always a packed house, but the crowds are large. Ben Davis and Warren were cosmetic makeovers. The current visitor side (old home seating) at each stadium is more than enough to accommodate the crowds each school brings to home games. The funding may have been private, it it doesn’t change the fact there was no real value added by building new home seating at BD and Warren. 

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26 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

Some renovations made sense like CG, Westfield,  Brownsburg. They needed the capacity and fans show up. It’s not always a packed house, but the crowds are large. Ben Davis and Warren were cosmetic makeovers. The current visitor side (old home seating) at each stadium is more than enough to accommodate the crowds each school brings to home games. The funding may have been private, it it doesn’t change the fact there was no real value added by building new home seating at BD and Warren. 

Hubris

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3 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

I hear the ones in Texas are top flight..build it and they will come..i don't mind giving tax money to see our youth have a little fun in a nice atmosphere.  Downtrodden facilities may deter numbers and we do not want that "C" word to happen!

The saying down here is there's a lot of 4A-6A stadiums that are quite a bit nicer than a fair amount of D2 & D3 colleges.  We have two very nice high school stadiums in the Waco area.  Not at the level of Allen, but still pretty impressive.  One of them is shared by two schools.

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12 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

We've traveled to Tech before to play you guys.  Didn't we represent well in the past?  

CG makes the drive north quite often as you can imagine...not an easy drive in that direction either.....but, its not that bad.  Construction does make it more challenging.

 

 

I hope the Center Grove crowd is massive at Tech next Friday!

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On 10/8/2019 at 7:04 PM, Boilernation said:

This isn’t Chicago, LA, Atlanta, etc. I could get to CG from Noblesville within an hour on a Friday night. That’s a piece of cake for such a long distance.

I'm speaking of the traffic situation.  I live on the westside of Indy, near Ben Davis,  and sometimes it takes me an hour to get to Tech on some Friday nights.  It's even tougher coming from the south on most Friday nights.  Our roads were built for 1970's traffic and are now overcrowded.

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15 minutes ago, Justasportsfan said:

Unbelievable 

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Football is religion in Texas!

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23 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

 

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Still haven't seen DT respond to this fact that Carmel did not travel on a beautiful night for a critical MIC game at BD.

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As far as the BD facilities go, the turf, if I recall correctly, was paid for by the NFL the first time in a grant and by IU Health when it was pulled up and replaced.

Giants Stadium had the home side/track reconstructed in 2006 as part of the renovation of the Chapel Hill 7th & 8th Grade Center. The northern locker room building was built at that time and built around the existing scoreboard/storage building. It includes garage bays for outdoor equipment and maintenance vehicles. This building also houses restrooms for the visiting side. The southern (home) locker room was built in 1998.

The visitors side (OLD HOME SIDE) was constructed in circa 1988. The press box on that side was replaced two years ago as it had fallen into severe disrepair and had major roof problems. It is used by all media except for WBDG.

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Carmel does not travel particularly well either.  Ive seen some sparse Copper Kettle crowds at Center Grove on the CA side over the years.

I think Carmel would travel better in The HCC.  More natural geographic rivals 

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Wonder what kind of attendance impacts come into play for the schools that provide webcasts?

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3 hours ago, DT said:

Carmel does not travel particularly well either.  Ive seen some sparse Copper Kettle crowds at Center Grove on the CA side over the years.

I think Carmel would travel better in The HCC.  More natural geographic rivals 

Lol wasn’t the point of this post that Carmel travels well along with CG.

 

Go ahead, start back pedaling.  

 

I can tell you this isn’t the case.  Kids in the Indy area have way more to do these days and they hardly ever travel to games anymore.  Even the Copper Kettle game has seen attendance dwindle. 

 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, HoosierFB_JG said:

Lol wasn’t the point of this post that Carmel travels well along with CG.

 

Go ahead, start back pedaling.  

 

I can tell you this isn’t the case.  Kids in the Indy area have way more to do these days and they hardly ever travel to games anymore.  Even the Copper Kettle game has seen attendance dwindle. 

 

 

 

Probably doesn’t help that it’s some sort of forced rivalry for a trophy that no one seems to be able to explain.

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1 hour ago, HoosierFB_JG said:

Lol wasn’t the point of this post that Carmel travels well along with CG.

 

Go ahead, start back pedaling.  

 

I can tell you this isn’t the case.  Kids in the Indy area have way more to do these days and they hardly ever travel to games anymore.  Even the Copper Kettle game has seen attendance dwindle. 

 

 

 

That was Tuesday...when it was sunny and wind was out of the west.

Today was cloudy with an easterly wind.

Try to keep up.

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