Schools that could benefit from the one time transfer rule

[cpg1970]

I was thinking about how schools could benefit from the one-time transfer rule.  I was wondering if it would affect city schools having kids transfer to county schools, more so than inter-city school transfers.

For example, South Bend schools losing players to LaVille or Bremen

What does it take to influence kids to leave one program for another?  Is it playing time, better facilities, better program, better school choice?  Could be all of these I suppose, but wanted to get thoughts on how big this could be in some areas of the state.

[BDGiant93]

14 minutes ago, cpg1970 said:

I was thinking about how schools could benefit from the one-time transfer rule.  I was wondering if it would affect city schools having kids transfer to county schools, more so than inter-city school transfers.

For example, South Bend schools losing players to LaVille or Bremen

What does it take to influence kids to leave one program for another?  Is it playing time, better facilities, better program, better school choice?  Could be all of these I suppose, but wanted to get thoughts on how big this could be in some areas of the state.

In the Indianapolis area, students have been moving between schools for decades, so this just makes it "legal" in a sense that athletic departments no longer have to sign off on that first transfer.

[Football Guru 25]

29 minutes ago, cpg1970 said:

I was thinking about how schools could benefit from the one-time transfer rule.  I was wondering if it would affect city schools having kids transfer to county schools, more so than inter-city school transfers.

For example, South Bend schools losing players to LaVille or Bremen

What does it take to influence kids to leave one program for another?  Is it playing time, better facilities, better program, better school choice?  Could be all of these I suppose, but wanted to get thoughts on how big this could be in some areas of the state.

I would think the coaches reputation and commitment could influence kids for sure.    If a coach runs a good trustworthy program at schools mentioned above, then they might see some athletes transfer.   Thats just my opinion on it!

[Muda69]

Clinton Prairie boy's basketball is surely benefitting from a transfer.  Their second-leading scorer is a senior who played at Frankfort for the previous three seasons, and was arguably their best player.  Now the Gophers are in the 1A title game and the Hot Dogs finished their season at 2-22, very possibly their worst season ever. 

Coincidence?

 

[Sparty]

33 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Clinton Prairie boy's basketball is surely benefitting from a transfer.  Their second-leading scorer is a senior who played at Frankfort for the previous three seasons, and was arguably their best player.  Now the Gophers are in the 1A title game and the Hot Dogs finished their season at 2-22, very possibly their worst season ever. 

Coincidence?

 

Smart?

[Go For 2]

51 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Clinton Prairie boy's basketball is surely benefitting from a transfer.  Their second-leading scorer is a senior who played at Frankfort for the previous three seasons, and was arguably their best player.  Now the Gophers are in the 1A title game and the Hot Dogs finished their season at 2-22, very possibly their worst season ever. 

Coincidence?

 

Are they not benefiting from a McCutcheon transfer also .

Quite a coincidence.  

[Titan32]

I think a school like Tri-West, for example, could lose very top-level D1 type talent to a place like Brownsburg, but conversely, it might receive kids who don't get on the field much at a 6A school, especially as sophomores or juniors.  3A and 4A schools can win state championships with a team full of hard-working Johny D2s/D3s who love the game and just want to play.

[MarshallCounty]

14 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

I think a school like Tri-West, for example, could lose very top-level D1 type talent to a place like Brownsburg, but conversely, it might receive kids who don't get on the field much at a 6A school, especially as sophomores or juniors.  3A and 4A schools can win state championships with a team full of hard-working Johny D2s/D3s who love the game and just want to play.

I agree... I think 1a and 2a teams may get a kid here or there that could change the complexion of some teams. I think the main disruption could be at 3 and 4a schools. I could see a place like New Prairie, Northwood getting some different makers from other schools from larger schools nearby.

[Football Fanatic]

The most obvious situations would be the city schools that are nearby each other, since commuting wouldn't be much of an issue for the kids/parents. Obviously cities like Indy, Evansville, Ft. Wayne, South Bend, Lafayette, and Gary. Other situations might be small rural towns close to other towns where the kids/parents can still commute.

Being in the Evansville area, I could think of a few situations where kids could commute for a benefit. Evansville schools of course. Castle, Boonville and Tecumseh. Gibson Southern, North, and Princeton. Jasper, Heritage Hills, Southridge, and Forest Park. Vincennes, Washington and North Knox. As far as who benefits, it will come down to the individual kids and what they are looking for obviously. Could be for a better environment, better program, be with friends, or more playing time. But obviously the schools with typically more success in those situations will benefit more from getting the better athletes. It just remains to be seen how often it will actually happen/how many kids will take advantage of it.

[Titan32]

33 minutes ago, Football Fanatic said:

The most obvious situations would be the city schools that are nearby each other, since commuting wouldn't be much of an issue for the kids/parents. Obviously cities like Indy, Evansville, Ft. Wayne, South Bend, Lafayette, and Gary. Other situations might be small rural towns close to other towns where the kids/parents can still commute.

Being in the Evansville area, I could think of a few situations where kids could commute for a benefit. Evansville schools of course. Castle, Boonville and Tecumseh. Gibson Southern, North, and Princeton. Jasper, Heritage Hills, Southridge, and Forest Park. Vincennes, Washington and North Knox. As far as who benefits, it will come down to the individual kids and what they are looking for obviously. Could be for a better environment, better program, be with friends, or more playing time. But obviously the schools with typically more success in those situations will benefit more from getting the better athletes. It just remains to be seen how often it will actually happen/how many kids will take advantage of it.

I won't lie.....Gibson Southern could potentially benefit heavily from the North and Princeton districts with football.

[Basementbias]

Haven't read up on it, but does it matter if the transfer occurs before school starts or at a nine weeks/semester? What about moving out of state and then coming back? Where I'm going with this is a senior playing fall sport at School A that has the better fall sport & then transferring to School B for winter sport that School B is better in. I could see that being a thing locally. 

[23andCounting]

Fort Wayne is a crapshoot. Carroll, Homestead, Leo, and Snider are clearly the best public programs worth transferring to. Nothing changes for Dwenger, Luers, and Concordia. North Side and Northrop seem to have the ability to recruit despite not having great programs. The big losers will be South Side and Wayne in my opinion. At the end of the day, a coach shouldn't be poaching another team's players. And if they are, they have some serious integrity issues they need to take a deep look at. Recruit hard at the middle school level, I think those kids are fair game. 

[US31]

 

10 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

... At the end of the day, a coach shouldn't be poaching another team's players. And if they are, they have some serious integrity issues they need to take a deep look at. Recruit hard at the middle school level, I think those kids are fair game. 

My understanding is the "undue influence" part of IHSAA By-Law's is still in effect (as it should be).  How much will that be investigated/policed?  Will be interesting to see. 

Someone in the know can correct me if I am wrong...

[Muda69]

21 hours ago, Go For 2 said:

Are they not benefiting from a McCutcheon transfer also .

Quite a coincidence.  

An easy pipeline when Prairie's coach is the son of Rick Peckinpaugh, who was the head coach at McCutcheon for 30+ years.

 

[23andCounting]

59 minutes ago, US31 said:

 

My understanding is the "undue influence" part of IHSAA By-Law's is still in effect (as it should be).  How much will that be investigated/policed?  Will be interesting to see. 

Someone in the know can correct me if I am wrong...

"A" for effort? Credit for trying? Kudos to the IHSAA, but that law will be massively abused. 

[HoopsCoach]

On 3/28/2025 at 7:57 AM, US31 said:

My understanding is the "undue influence" part of IHSAA By-Law's is still in effect (as it should be).  How much will that be investigated/policed?  Will be interesting to see. 

Someone in the know can correct me if I am wrong...

 

On 3/28/2025 at 8:58 AM, 23andCounting said:

"A" for effort? Credit for trying? Kudos to the IHSAA, but that law will be massively abused. 

The IHSAA already sent out an advisory to all schools a few weeks ago with a warning that schools were already being caught violating the undue influence rule.  The question isn’t whether schools/coaches will do it, the question is what will the IHSAA do when they have clear evidence of a school/coach doing it.  They’ve taken away the majority of the transfer rules.  It’s critical that they strictly and harshly enforce the few they still have.

[IndianaWrestlingGuy1]

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