Bonecrusher Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) https://usatodayhss.com/2019/long-island-high-school-football-coach-suspended-for-running-up-the-score-against-previously-undefeated-foe This situation's a little different than the previous one. After reading the article, two things stand out to me: 1. The coach didn't pull his starters even with a 5-possession lead in 4th quarter. Not cool says I. Let your 2nd stringers get some valuable time vs. the other teams 1st string. If opponent starts a comeback, your starters go back in. Bad form by the winning coach, but not deserving of a sanctioning IMO. 2. The Nassau County Lopsided Score Committee? REALLY? Once again, at a total loss for words. 🏈 ❄️ Edited November 1, 2019 by Bonecrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bonecrusher said: https://usatodayhss.com/2019/long-island-high-school-football-coach-suspended-for-running-up-the-score-against-previously-undefeated-foe This situation's a little different than the previous one. After reading the article, two things stand out to me: 1. The coach didn't pull his starters even with a 5-possession lead in 4th quarter. Not cool says I. Let your 2nd stringers get some valuable time vs. the other teams 1st string. If opponent starts a comeback, your starters go back in. Bad form by the winning coach, but not deserving of a sanctioning IMO. 2. The Nassau County Lopsided Score Committee? REALLY? Once again, at a total loss for words. 🏈 ❄️ Yeah, they usually get the meeting room right after the Healthy Snacks In Concession Stands Committee meets. 😀 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 96-0. Never Forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, Muda69 said: 96-0. Never Forget. Wait, this happened? IN INDIANA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Temptation said: Wait, this happened? IN INDIANA? Yes: http://pastfb.homestead.com/logs/ClintonPrairie.htm#loaded Look under the entry for 2008. And Never Forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Yes: http://pastfb.homestead.com/logs/ClintonPrairie.htm#loaded Look under the entry for 2008. And Never Forget. My gawd. What’s the story there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Temptation said: My gawd. What’s the story there? It's dark, very dark. And resulted in a multi-page thread on an earlier iteration of the GID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Barons Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 http://pastfb.homestead.com/logs/DeKalb.htm#loaded 1994 - second game The jv - cheer squad drove in the last score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Just now, DK_Barons said: http://pastfb.homestead.com/logs/DeKalb.htm#loaded 1994 - second game The jv - cheer squad drove in the last score. Thank you DK. Another stain on the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachVeatch Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Muda69 said: It's dark, very dark. And resulted in a multi-page thread on an earlier iteration of the GID. wow....I can only imagine how heated that got....any chance you could give a quick synopsis or do you get Vietnam like flashbacks thinking about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, CoachVeatch said: wow....I can only imagine how heated that got....any chance you could give a quick synopsis or do you get Vietnam like flashbacks thinking about it? It was basically the camp of "Get Better Or Get Used To It" neanderthalism vs. the camp of "But why would you choose to do this in a game played by Children?" enlightenment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Muda69 said: It was basically the camp of "Get Better Or Get Used To It" neanderthalism vs. the camp of "But why would you choose to do this in a game played by Children?" enlightenment. How long were starters in, and were they throwing the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Temptation said: How long were starters in, and were they throwing the ball? I honestly don't recall those details. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachVeatch Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Muda69 said: It was basically the camp of "Get Better Or Get Used To It" neanderthalism vs. the camp of "But why would you choose to do this in a game played by Children?" enlightenment. Ahhhh yes. Sounds about right. Seems to me like someone was being a real Richard. But I could be misinformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 We’re they going for two after each touchdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gipper said: We’re they going for two after each touchdown? Looks to me like two missed extra points in the first half according to the box score... Anyone with a maxpreps account? https://www.maxpreps.com/m/games/10-17-2008/football-fall-08/clinton-prairie-vs-lafayette-central-catholic.htm?c=WJVt5zdGikWnXoTcufrs_g#tab=box-score&schoolid= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I do remember vividly, Clinton Prairie's coach being quoted in newspaper that LCC did absolutely NOTHING wrong and held no issues towards the outcome. I believe LCC was running QB sneaks for long yardage TDs' 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Just now, Coach Nowlin said: I believe LCC was running QB sneaks for long yardage TDs' We can get back into the weeds of this again, but the underlying question behind this statement is "why are you running plays at all?", especially if are ahead by 5+ score in the 4th quarter already. Take a knee 3 times, run down the clock, then punt. Easy peasy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Just now, Muda69 said: We can get back into the weeds of this again, but the underlying question behind this statement is "why are you running plays at all?", especially if are ahead by 5+ score in the 4th quarter already. Take a knee 3 times, run down the clock, then punt. Easy peasy. Yea man, I know I look at this game from a different lens then you do, but from my lens, I would find that more disrespectful 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Yea man, I know I look at this game from a different lens then you do, but from my lens, I would find that more disrespectful Then by all means please expound on "your lens" vs. "my lens". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Coach vs Fan Do I need to go further? High School Coach vs Pop Warner Coach Just in case you were youth league volunteer coach back in your boys' day. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Coach vs Fan Do I need to go further? High School Coach vs Pop Warner Coach Just in case you were youth league volunteer coach back in your boys' day. I still don't understand. Specifics please? Why must a Coach have a "score/win at all cost mentality" all of the time. When is enough enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Cobra Kai would love this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nowlin Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, Muda69 said: I still don't understand. Specifics please? Why must a Coach have a "score/win at all cost mentality" all of the time. When is enough enough? As a Coach, I will still want to achieve X's O's and work on competitive situations as I build my team, even in the most severe blowouts, I feel like you can still get something to build on in these scenarios, as a Coach, you find things to build on that are positive, when negative things occur, you look to find ways to fix that in real time situations. I cannot do this while watching an offense taking 3 knees and punting. "Score/win at all cost mentality" is not what I am referring too, its each play an opportunity to build to success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Nowlin said: As a Coach, I will still want to achieve X's O's and work on competitive situations as I build my team, even in the most severe blowouts, I feel like you can still get something to build on in these scenarios, as a Coach, you find things to build on that are positive, when negative things occur, you look to find ways to fix that in real time situations. I cannot do this while watching an offense taking 3 knees and punting. "Score/win at all cost mentality" is not what I am referring too, its each play an opportunity to build to success. I fail to see the objective "competitive situations" in the 4th quarter of an already 60-0 blowout. End the game as quickly as possibly, shake hands, then move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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