Irishman Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Time to start the offseason for this year. lol I think it’s well known that Rodgers and McCarthy did not work well together. Green Bay had to choose which one went. I am guessing this will end a lot of talk about Rodgers playing another year in Pittsburgh. Quote
Sparty Posted January 24 Posted January 24 41 minutes ago, Irishman said: Time to start the offseason for this year. lol I think it’s well known that Rodgers and McCarthy did not work well together. Green Bay had to choose which one went. I am guessing this will end a lot of talk about Rodgers playing another year in Pittsburgh. Big Mike McCarthy to the Steelers? I like it. Quote
Irishman Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Sparty said: Big Mike McCarthy to the Steelers? I like it. Funny story. My oldest brother and his family moved to the Pittsburgh area in 2008. When the Packers and Steelers played in the Super Bowl, it was team spirit day the Friday before at my niece's school. Being the smart kid that she is, she wears one of her Packers jerseys. Of course everyone else was wearing Steelers stuff. She saw one girl wearing a Packers jersey and just had to say hello to her. The girl told her that her uncle is the Packers head coach. Quote
Sparty Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Irishman said: Funny story. My oldest brother and his family moved to the Pittsburgh area in 2008. When the Packers and Steelers played in the Super Bowl, it was team spirit day the Friday before at my niece's school. Being the smart kid that she is, she wears one of her Packers jerseys. Of course everyone else was wearing Steelers stuff. She saw one girl wearing a Packers jersey and just had to say hello to her. The girl told her that her uncle is the Packers head coach. That’s awesome and a memory for ever. 1 Quote
Irishman Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 NFL world in disbelief over Bill Belichick Hall of Fame report https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2026/01/27/bill-belichick-hall-of-fame-nfl-reactions-social-media/88385144007/ Polian should just own it. Saying he cannot remember how he voted is a pathetic excuse. An anonymous source claimed that Polian said based on his issues with cheating, waiting a year to get in can serve as a penance. I know insiders and Patriots fans are upset, but I am willing to bet that most football fans are fine with this. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Sad Sad Sad Petty Petty Petty Does that mean TB12 and RG87 have to wait a year too? How bout Jimmy Johnson message OH BOY: Not the GREAT TONY DUNGY ..... NO WAY (he also was the HC of a WR who was allowed to shoot people (allegedly) and not say a peep Quote
Muda69 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Mr. Belichick and Mr. Brady are both cheaters, and both were caught doing it. They should never be in the NFL Hall of Fame. 1 Quote
Muda69 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Indiana Legislators being played like a fiddle by the Chicago Bears: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2026/01/28/indiana-senate-approves-bill-to-finance-nfl-stadium-with-eye-on-chicago-bears/88395125007/ Quote Just as quickly as the idea to move the Chicago Bears team to northwest Indiana came to light in a surprise open letter from the team's president, Indiana state lawmakers got busy drafting the infrastructure to make it happen. A bill was drafted and has thus far sailed through the process, passing the Senate Jan. 28 by a 46-2 vote and enabling a new authority to bond and build an NFL stadium in the region. The bill still needs to pass the House and be signed by Gov. Mike Braun before it goes into law. "We don't get an opportunity like this every day," Sen. Lonnie Randolph, D-East Chicago, told his fellow senators on the floor. "The more support we show for this bill, the better chance the reality could occur." ... This year's bill, Senate Bill 27, lays out all the abilities granted to the authority in relation to issuing bonds and making financial decisions to acquire land, build a stadium and enter into contracts. The authority can only issue bonds if it has a written agreement with a National Football League team that includes an at-least 35-year lease for the stadium. The board overseeing the authority would only comprise three members: the director of the office of management and budget or a designee, the public finance director and another member appointed by the OMB director. Bill author Sen. Ryan Mishler, R-Mishawaka, said this is just the start ― for example, he said local representatives should be added to this board. "This bill just creates the framework," he said. "There's a lot of other details that will need to be added as well." A huge waste for Indiana taxpayers. If you want an economist's view of publicly funded stadiums please listen to this recent podcast: https://reason.com/podcast/2026/01/28/the-real-reason-you-pay-for-nfl-stadiums/ 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 28 Posted January 28 37 minutes ago, Muda69 said: Indiana Legislators being played like a fiddle by the Chicago Bears: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2026/01/28/indiana-senate-approves-bill-to-finance-nfl-stadium-with-eye-on-chicago-bears/88395125007/ A huge waste for Indiana taxpayers. If you want an economist's view of publicly funded stadiums please listen to this recent podcast: https://reason.com/podcast/2026/01/28/the-real-reason-you-pay-for-nfl-stadiums/ Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Muda69 said: Mr. Belichick and Mr. Brady are both cheaters, and both were caught doing it. They should never be in the NFL Hall of Fame. New Project for you: Go comb through NFL HOF and all other HOFs as well: Go and start the petition of any and all accused of "cheating". and or caught "cheating" I don't think your standards you want to keep has been applied fairly across the board.... Do we just gloss over the Howard Mudd quote and who he worked for?? Baseball HOF: Baseball knew it, allowed it, and then got all sarcomatous about it .... Hard pass there too. Let Bud Selig in, who presided over the wide spread use as Commish, let Tony LaRussa who was the Bash Brothers manager in 1987 and then McGwire again at St Louis..... he is in.... he absolutely knew, who knows, maybe even encouraged it...... Joe Torre.... yup him too.... AROD.... yup..... Quote
Muda69 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 18 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: New Project for you: Go comb through NFL HOF and all other HOFs as well: Go and start the petition of any and all accused of "cheating". and or caught "cheating" Will you pay me an hourly wage for such research? 18 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: I don't think your standards you want to keep has been applied fairly across the board.... Can you please expound on this statement? You seem to be saying "If they were a successful coach or player, then their cheating isn't a big deal." 18 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Do we just gloss over the Howard Mudd quote and who he worked for?? I don't recall this quote by the late Mr. Mudd. Can you please repeat it or link to it? 18 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Baseball HOF: Baseball knew it, allowed it, and then got all sarcomatous about it .... Hard pass there too. Let Bud Selig in, who presided over the wide spread use as Commish, let Tony LaRussa who was the Bash Brothers manager in 1987 and then McGwire again at St Louis..... he is in.... he absolutely knew, who knows, maybe even encouraged it...... Joe Torre.... yup him too.... AROD.... yup..... Major League Baseball has been corrupt almost since it's inception. That's one reason why I mostly don't watch it. 19 hours ago, Bash Riprock said: Some reading for you to educate yourself. Sounds like it will be a enlightening read: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/this-one-will-be-different-9780197820216?cc=us&lang=en& Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Some reading for you to educate yourself. Sounds like it will be a enlightening read: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/this-one-will-be-different-9780197820216?cc=us&lang=en& Amazing how the internet works...can always find sources that align with our personal beliefs. https://opalgroup.net/facilities/pro-sports-and-entertainment-facilities-how-theyre-changing-communities-forever/#:~:text=The benefits aren't just,place for neighbors to connect. Look, I understand that the choice of investment isn't always a positive. I think every case has to be evaluated individually on its potential merit. The article I linked above talks about the Barclays Center in Brooklyn and what its meant to that area for revitalization. I lived in the DC area for years. A dangerous and poor part of the district was the Anacostia area. I was surprised when the Washington Nationals baseball team built their stadium in that location. Years later, I had the chance to attend a couple of baseball games in the stadium. I couldn't believe how that area of Anacostia was totally different. It went from dead to thriving. Condos, businesses, hotels, restaurants, parks, walking trails along the Anacostia River, a new MLS stadium, etc. An investment in a sports stadium totally changed the blueprint of this section of DC. Again, its my understanding the Bears is funding their own stadium. At least according to AI sources, they plan to privately fund the $2B to build the stadium. In the Arlington Heights, IL proposal, the Bears asked are asking for $855 million in public funding for infrastructure (roads, utilities) and tax breaks. The NWI area isn't going to improve on its own...I see this area similar to the Barclay's Brooklyn and Washington Nationals/Anacostia DC areas. I realize its not a slam dunk. But examples have shown us that investments like this can turn an area around. Its hard to yield any return without some source of investment. If the Bears and the community are willing to invest together, I think the potential gain is well worth it. Especially for this particular region that needs investment so very bad. I don't need another source from you..we know where you stand. Simply agree to disagree that its always a constant when it comes to urban investment. Whether you agree or not, Indianapolis itself has certainly changed considerably after the Colts arrived. While we can debate the % of this growth due to the Colts, its impossible to argue the Colts have had no impact to the city's growth and development. Edited January 29 by Bash Riprock Quote
Muda69 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said: Amazing how the internet works...can always find sources that align with our personal beliefs. https://opalgroup.net/facilities/pro-sports-and-entertainment-facilities-how-theyre-changing-communities-forever/#:~:text=The benefits aren't just,place for neighbors to connect. Sorry, I'll take the opinion of a trained economist who has been researching and writing about this topic for decades over an organizer of industry conferences whose "article" is basically an advertisement for a "Pro Sports and Entertainment Facilities Summit". Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 29 Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Muda69 said: Will you pay me an hourly wage for such research? Can you please expound on this statement? You seem to be saying "If they were a successful coach or player, then their cheating isn't a big deal." I don't recall this quote by the late Mr. Mudd. Can you please repeat it or link to it? Major League Baseball has been corrupt almost since it's inception. That's one reason why I mostly don't watch it. Some reading for you to educate yourself. Sounds like it will be a enlightening read: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/this-one-will-be-different-9780197820216?cc=us&lang=en& Sure if you pay me back pay for 15 years of this website , so you go first my friend !! 🙂 1 Quote
Muda69 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: Sure if you pay me back pay for 15 years of this website , so you go first my friend !! 🙂 Sorry, I don't understand the equivalency. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 29 Posted January 29 You want paid for me to re link a link that I already did to do the research.... so yes, as long as I get back pay for my volunteerism here, but I am sure you won't see the paralism and that is ok too how bout this: Not sure why it won't translate back: so here; They LIED to you about SPY GATE. Here’s Bill Cowher talking about how normal that practice was — the one they fined Bill Belichick for. Everyone was doing it. Then they accused them again of filming practices before a Super Bowl… and the reporter retracted the story… Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher, in their eagerness to defend Bill Belichick, admitted that the Cowboys and the Steelers also stole signs. They gave details, although their processes sound way more rudimentary than what the Pats did #NFL\ So, for me personally, just go and bring all that same energies about BB and the NFL ...... Tom Brady was the one who was in charge of the Colts baby reaction of DeflateGATE NOT BB for the record on that "scandal". Quote
Muda69 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: You want paid for me to re link a link that I already did to do the research.... so yes, as long as I get back pay for my volunteerism here, but I am sure you won't see the paralism and that is ok too how bout this: Not sure why it won't translate back: so here; They LIED to you about SPY GATE. Here’s Bill Cowher talking about how normal that practice was — the one they fined Bill Belichick for. Everyone was doing it. Then they accused them again of filming practices before a Super Bowl… and the reporter retracted the story… Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher, in their eagerness to defend Bill Belichick, admitted that the Cowboys and the Steelers also stole signs. They gave details, although their processes sound way more rudimentary than what the Pats did #NFL\ So, for me personally, just go and bring all that same energies about BB and the NFL ...... You want to get paid for volunteering? That doesn't make sense. And I guess in the world of professional sports multiple wrongs make a right. 1 Quote
Bash Riprock Posted January 29 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Sorry, I'll take the opinion of a trained economist who has been researching and writing about this topic for decades over an organizer of industry conferences whose "article" is basically an advertisement for a "Pro Sports and Entertainment Facilities Summit". I don't care what you do or believe at the end of the day. Knock yourself out. Just accept your repeated pontifications of your personal views on a high school football forum will have absolutely nothing to do where the Bears ultimately land with a new sports stadium and facilities. Nor will mine. As I said before, you missed your call when it comes to urban planning & development. Quote
Muda69 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 12 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: I don't care what you do or believe at the end of the day. Knock yourself out. Just accept your repeated pontifications of your personal views on a high school football forum will have absolutely nothing to do where the Bears ultimately land with a new sports stadium and facilities. Nor will mine. Ahh, so only the "movers and shakers" get to pontificate their personal views. Got it. I didn't know you ran with that crowd. 14 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said: As I said before, you missed your call when it comes to urban planning & development. Thank you. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 29 Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Muda69 said: You want to get paid for volunteering? That doesn't make sense. And I guess in the world of professional sports multiple wrongs make a right. Let's focus on why initial commentary back towards you. My entire point is if you are going clutch your pearls of HOF, in this case BB and FB HOF, then I need that same energy for the others who have been doing the same but didn't get made an example like BB and Patriots did during their dynasty. Consistency is important. As I have pointed out, other HOF coaches, talking about doing exactly what the Pats did...... Where is the outrage?? Quote
Muda69 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 14 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: Let's focus on why initial commentary back towards you. ? This sentence seems structurally incorrect. Please try again. 14 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said: My entire point is if you are going clutch your pearls of HOF, in this case BB and FB HOF, then I need that same energy for the others who have been doing the same but didn't get made an example like BB and Patriots did during their dynasty. Consistency is important. As I have pointed out, other HOF coaches, talking about doing exactly what the Pats did...... Where is the outrage?? Ok, petition the NFL Hall of Fame to open an investigation of every single current member, looking for cheaters. If cheating can objectively be proven, then remove them from the Hall. And any future inductions need to be put on hold until the process is completed. Is that energetic enough for you? Because it seems that what you are saying is that because previous HOF members may have been give a pass regarding their cheating it's ok to let more current cheaters like Mr. Belichick and Mr. Brady into the HOF. I disagree with that sentiment. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 30 Posted January 30 So you have different rules for different people in your views. Got it Quote
gonzoron Posted January 30 Posted January 30 We shouldn't need to speak Spanish to be an NFL fan! Quote
Muda69 Posted January 30 Posted January 30 23 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: So you have different rules for different people in your views. Got it Just because due diligence failed in the past is no reason to abandon it now. If to you that means "different rules for different people" then so be it. Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted January 30 Posted January 30 2 hours ago, gonzoron said: We shouldn't need to speak Spanish to be an NFL fan! it was more the rumor of potential wearing a dress.... I could care less on all of it.... Quote
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