TheLip2 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 A few facts to consider regarding schedule and Sagarin ratings.... 1) Out-of-state games are not included. The Tigers had one against a relatively weak Taylor (OH) team. However, East Central had two - Harrison (OH) and Oak Hills (OH). East Central beat Harrison who is ranked 9th in OH Div II. Harrison is in the 2nd round of the Ohio playoffs. The Harrison win was a good win for the Trojans. 2) Lawrenceburg won the East Central game against Harrison in almost every statistical area except the final score and turnovers. L'burg moved the ball well most of the game, but had multiple drives fritter out deep in EC territory. East Central had a few big plays / blown coverages to get their 2 td's in the first half, but Lawrenceburg could easily have been up 3 td's at halftime if things went just a little differently. The Tigers then came out in the 2nd half and turned it over on the first three possessions. EC took advantage and the rest is history. Not taking anything away from EC, they made the plays to win the game, but it easily could have been a totally different outcome. So, I am not sure what impacts a Tiger win over EC might have made on the Sagarin, but that game could easily have ended differently. Similarly, an EC win against a very good Harrison team might have moved the needle a bit, not to mention the impact on the Tigers of not having BIG YOON for the first 5-6 games of the year. By all accounts and objective measures it appears that HH has a very good football team, but I think these Tigers will have some fight in them on Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot 74 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, troyfan said: P74, the EIAC fans give every team they face a nickname to kinda get under the skin....calm down. The seasonal records mean nothing! 12-0 = 0-0 this week and the next....and the next! Don't hang your hat on the last 12-weeks and don't let our style fry your shorts. Hope you make the trip to Stinktown this weekend...I promise you'll enjoy the EIAC hospitality. I’ll be in town Saturday Troyman that’s for sure!! You all said leave the rhyme to EIAC!! You all said it was a Dirty Burg thing!! You all said be yourself.....this is me STC!!! We can agree to disagree....12-0 means something. You see we beat 4 top 10 ranked teams!! We won hard road games!! We are Patriot Nation!! I am so sorry though....I forgot to congratulate you all on you best win of the year, when you beat that powerhouse Milan!!! Great job Stink Town Clowns!!! You all should be proud!!! See you Saturday Ding. Ding, Ding Round 2 Edited November 12, 2019 by Patriot 74 Typing error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMosbey Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, TheLip2 said: A few facts to consider regarding schedule and Sagarin ratings.... 1) Out-of-state games are not included. The Tigers had one against a relatively weak Taylor (OH) team. However, East Central had two - Harrison (OH) and Oak Hills (OH). East Central beat Harrison who is ranked 9th in OH Div II. Harrison is in the 2nd round of the Ohio playoffs. The Harrison win was a good win for the Trojans. 2) Lawrenceburg won the East Central game against Harrison in almost every statistical area except the final score and turnovers. L'burg moved the ball well most of the game, but had multiple drives fritter out deep in EC territory. East Central had a few big plays / blown coverages to get their 2 td's in the first half, but Lawrenceburg could easily have been up 3 td's at halftime if things went just a little differently. The Tigers then came out in the 2nd half and turned it over on the first three possessions. EC took advantage and the rest is history. Not taking anything away from EC, they made the plays to win the game, but it easily could have been a totally different outcome. So, I am not sure what impacts a Tiger win over EC might have made on the Sagarin, but that game could easily have ended differently. Similarly, an EC win against a very good Harrison team might have moved the needle a bit, not to mention the impact on the Tigers of not having BIG YOON for the first 5-6 games of the year. By all accounts and objective measures it appears that HH has a very good football team, but I think these Tigers will have some fight in them on Saturday night. Not saying it wont be a fight because it should be a war between two very good teams and Quarterbacks that can run and pass have always scared me but some of these post act like HH shouldn't even show up. And Yes I know Sagarin doesn't include out of state games but funny thing Sagarin has East Central rated higher then HH and CalPreps which includes out of state games has HH higher, go figure. Should be a good game Saturday and team that makes fewest mistakes will probably win.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheLip2 said: A few facts to consider regarding schedule and Sagarin ratings.... 1) Out-of-state games are not included. The Tigers had one against a relatively weak Taylor (OH) team. However, East Central had two - Harrison (OH) and Oak Hills (OH). East Central beat Harrison who is ranked 9th in OH Div II. Harrison is in the 2nd round of the Ohio playoffs. The Harrison win was a good win for the Trojans. 2) Lawrenceburg won the East Central game against Harrison in almost every statistical area except the final score and turnovers. L'burg moved the ball well most of the game, but had multiple drives fritter out deep in EC territory. East Central had a few big plays / blown coverages to get their 2 td's in the first half, but Lawrenceburg could easily have been up 3 td's at halftime if things went just a little differently. The Tigers then came out in the 2nd half and turned it over on the first three possessions. EC took advantage and the rest is history. Not taking anything away from EC, they made the plays to win the game, but it easily could have been a totally different outcome. So, I am not sure what impacts a Tiger win over EC might have made on the Sagarin, but that game could easily have ended differently. Similarly, an EC win against a very good Harrison team might have moved the needle a bit, not to mention the impact on the Tigers of not having BIG YOON for the first 5-6 games of the year. By all accounts and objective measures it appears that HH has a very good football team, but I think these Tigers will have some fight in them on Saturday night. We lost a recent game winning in every statistical category and we are sitting at home. The Patriots can beat you in multiple ways. Just because they are a flexbone team hardly makes them one dimensional. Edited November 12, 2019 by Titan32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHPatriots Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 When the Phoenix rises and/or #25 is packing the rock, prepare to get run over. Please try to tackle either--they love contact. You better send more than 1 guy, you likely won't tackle them alone. Last guy that tried to tackle head on laid on the field a while. This is going to be a long week waiting on this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMosbey Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, HHPatriots said: When the Phoenix rises and/or #25 is packing the rock, prepare to get run over. Please try to tackle either--they love contact. You better send more than 1 guy, you likely won't tackle them alone. Last guy that tried to tackle head on laid on the field a while. This is going to be a long week waiting on this one. At least Friday Evening we get to watch Simon put on a show in the Slam Dunk contest again at the Blue White, And see if Blake or Murray came up with anything to try to top him. Just imagine if Simon was still playing football ?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip2 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 The view from Tiger town today as tweeted by Coach K. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkTownClown Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Pat 74, Pat 74, Pat 74 1.2.3. Thanks for the Congrats Milan was a very strong Team! 1) Hey congratulations on your wins over: Tell City, (5-5), Pike Central (0-10), North Posey (4-6), South Spencer (1-9), Corydon Central (2-8) all big wins. Your wins over Brewer Nation, Hit Man Hart, and Hannerville are impressive. But come on man, you want to talk about schedules and all of that, neither one of us can pump our chest over that. Yes 12-0 means something, it means you have won 12 games! Congrats! However.......Can you name the 4 Ranked Teams? 2) So now according to HHPatriots the Tigers are playing Bo Jackson & Eric Dickerson! Come'on man, you must be kidding with that post! 3) T32, how are they more than one dimensional? Are they not a running team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, StinkTownClown said: Pat 74, Pat 74, Pat 74 1.2.3. Thanks for the Congrats Milan was a very strong Team! 1) Hey congratulations on your wins over: Tell City, (5-5), Pike Central (0-10), North Posey (4-6), South Spencer (1-9), Corydon Central (2-8) all big wins. Your wins over Brewer Nation, Hit Man Hart, and Hannerville are impressive. But come on man, you want to talk about schedules and all of that, neither one of us can pump our chest over that. Yes 12-0 means something, it means you have won 12 games! Congrats! However.......Can you name the 4 Ranked Teams? 2) So now according to HHPatriots the Tigers are playing Bo Jackson & Eric Dickerson! Come'on man, you must be kidding with that post! 3) T32, how are they more than one dimensional? Are they not a running team? Hannerville!!! what a blast from the past, there! I'm sure he would join you for a few TigerBL's if you asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMosbey Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, StinkTownClown said: Pat 74, Pat 74, Pat 74 1.2.3. Thanks for the Congrats Milan was a very strong Team! 1) Hey congratulations on your wins over: Tell City, (5-5), Pike Central (0-10), North Posey (4-6), South Spencer (1-9), Corydon Central (2-8) all big wins. Your wins over Brewer Nation, Hit Man Hart, and Hannerville are impressive. But come on man, you want to talk about schedules and all of that, neither one of us can pump our chest over that. Yes 12-0 means something, it means you have won 12 games! Congrats! However.......Can you name the 4 Ranked Teams? 2) So now according to HHPatriots the Tigers are playing Bo Jackson & Eric Dickerson! Come'on man, you must be kidding with that post! 3) T32, how are they more than one dimensional? Are they not a running team? Not 4 different teams but 4 wins against ranked competition and it's not easy beating good teams twice. Biggest thing about the HH rush attack it's hard to key on 1 or 2 players the Patriots have 4 different players that have rushed for over a 100 yards in a game Wetzel 6 times, Sigler 4 times, Rodgers once and Vaal once. One of those players was injured in round 2 of sectionals but when Wetzel missed most of the Jasper game Vaal picked it up rushing for a 100 plus yards, Same thing against Gibson 1st game. Wetzel missed most of game and Rodgers rushed for 100 plus. We dont pass alot but Sigler has thrown the ball well when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkTownClown Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 15 hours ago, Patriot 74 said: You see we beat 4 top 10 ranked teams!! So this is #fakenews? 32 minutes ago, DaveMosbey said: Not 4 different teams but 4 wins against ranked competition and it's not easy beating good teams twice. Stinky, Stink, Stink 1.2.3. STC will totally agree Beating good teams twice especially those two is something most times you do not see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot 74 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, StinkTownClown said: Pat 74, Pat 74, Pat 74 1.2.3. Thanks for the Congrats Milan was a very strong Team! 1) Hey congratulations on your wins over: Tell City, (5-5), Pike Central (0-10), North Posey (4-6), South Spencer (1-9), Corydon Central (2-8) all big wins. Your wins over Brewer Nation, Hit Man Hart, and Hannerville are impressive. But come on man, you want to talk about schedules and all of that, neither one of us can pump our chest over that. Yes 12-0 means something, it means you have won 12 games! Congrats! However.......Can you name the 4 Ranked Teams? 2) So now according to HHPatriots the Tigers are playing Bo Jackson & Eric Dickerson! Come'on man, you must be kidding with that post! 3) T32, how are they more than one dimensional? Are they not a running team? Wait what??? You truly must be a Clown, by my count that is 4 teams with losing records, and one was by fortune of the ping pong drop!! Let's compare that with Taylor 2-8 (Ohio powerhouse), Franklin Co 5-5, Batesville 4-7 (a 36-35 heavy weight fight), Connersville 0-10, Scottsburg 3-7, Rushville 1-9, South Dearborn 5-5..........C'mon Clown I thought you were better at this stuff man!! Yes I can name the teams Gibson Southern regular season. Southridge regular season. Gibson Southern tournament version 2.0 and Southridge tournament version 2.0!! You think it's easy beating a ranked team twice Clowny clown!! Why don't call up the Central Bears and ask em' how last Friday night went, or maybe your boys from Spin City and their Charlestown debacle!!! I'll take our schedule and wins over yours any day. Don't make me call EC and have them come down again!! NO it's not Bo Jackson and Eric Dickerson that's just two dudes man. We got a whole teams of dudes!! Keep poking the bear Clowny clown. Stink town just might be part of the Jungle burbs by Saturday night!!! This dimension of one you speak of Clown boy you must not be for real............they run, they throw, the return punts and kickoffs!! Haven't even talked about defense yet!! Maybe too many BL's last night and you fell in went bump.......The Patriots are at least 1 1/2 dimensional...... Ding, Ding, Ding round 3.... Edited November 13, 2019 by Patriot 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkTownClown Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Stinky, Stink, Stink 1.2.3. you'd have one loss to if you played EC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coffin K9 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 No way you can compare the Pocket to the EIAC! Not even close! K9 agrees that HH would have one loss if they played the mighty red and black. Our neighbors to the East will show those Pats what multi dimensional really looks like. They'll have the Cheetahs running wild and family reunions in the endzone! The boney bone is ancient, and not that hard to handle. Just ask the boys at Hondaturd who were told to bring their offense into the 21st century. HH better hope they have Bo Jackson and Eric Dickerson, cuz that's their only chance. But the good news is, everyone's welcome at Connie's...even the losers. Bring plenty of singles fellas cuz the Clown will buy your drinks, but he won't pay for lap dances!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, StinkTownClown said: Pat 74, Pat 74, Pat 74 1.2.3. Thanks for the Congrats Milan was a very strong Team! 1) Hey congratulations on your wins over: Tell City, (5-5), Pike Central (0-10), North Posey (4-6), South Spencer (1-9), Corydon Central (2-8) all big wins. Your wins over Brewer Nation, Hit Man Hart, and Hannerville are impressive. But come on man, you want to talk about schedules and all of that, neither one of us can pump our chest over that. Yes 12-0 means something, it means you have won 12 games! Congrats! However.......Can you name the 4 Ranked Teams? 2) So now according to HHPatriots the Tigers are playing Bo Jackson & Eric Dickerson! Come'on man, you must be kidding with that post! 3) T32, how are they more than one dimensional? Are they not a running team? In their flex bone system any number of quality backs can get the ball and from all different angles. The QB is one of them. Power or speed out of the backfield. This isn't your grandpa's wishbone. Secondly...they can throw just well enough that you better at least have it on your mind. Lastly....better know who NOT to kick it to on special teams or you are in for a long night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheBoom Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 WOW! And it's only Wednesday morning! GO PATRIOTS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StinkTownClown Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 74, 74, 74....1.2.3. They run, they throw, then the stats must be lying???? Maxpreps would disagree, but if completing 3 a game is throwing.....then you got me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhpatriot04 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 17 hours ago, DaveMosbey said: HH has forced 30 Turnovers 23 Interceptions and 7 fumbles and their opponents have forced 8 ( 1 interception and 7 fumbles ) Giving the Patriots a +22 turnover ratio. And at least one blocked FG for good measure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhpatriot04 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, StinkTownClown said: 74, 74, 74....1.2.3. They run, they throw, then the stats must be lying???? Maxpreps would disagree, but if completing 3 a game is throwing.....then you got me! Check that YPC, then ask yourself if you would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot 74 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, StinkTownClown said: 74, 74, 74....1.2.3. They run, they throw, then the stats must be lying???? Maxpreps would disagree, but if completing 3 a game is throwing.....then you got me! It is what it is Clowny clown!! We don't need to throw against the bad teams to pads our stats like the boyz from the Burg do. But when the Patriots show up Saturday.....AND they WILL show up Saturday......we may just throw it all night on those little pussy cats from the Burg just because we can!! One question Clownboy??? Is EC still playing football??? Or did they give up their cat crushin' pads to go play hoops?? Cause I'm thinking EC in PAC is like a 6-3 team maybe 7-2 if they have a good night....... Ding, Ding, Ding Round 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffin K9 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Titan32 said: In their flex bone system any number of quality backs can get the ball and from all different angles. The QB is one of them. Power or speed out of the backfield. This isn't your grandpa's wishbone. All the misdirection, deception offensive schemes belonged to Grandpa. Really isn't that hard to defend if you know what to key. The entire system banks on players getting undisciplined and not following their reads. A couple "no ball" sessions is all it takes to take the "magic" out of it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffin K9 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, Titan32 said: Lastly....better know who NOT to kick it to on special teams or you are in for a long night Hmm...if only the Tigers had film! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheBoom Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Coffin K9 said: All the misdirection, deception offensive schemes belonged to Grandpa. Really isn't that hard to defend if you know what to key. The entire system banks on players getting undisciplined and not following their reads. A couple "no ball" sessions is all it takes to take the "magic" out of it. Everyone has a plan until they get popped in the mouth or ran over! Those keys then suddenly get hard to remember or blurry. Edited November 13, 2019 by HereComesTheBoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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