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 yeah i believe i heard after the 09 victory the arrows had a police escort into town 

Don't know who said that happened, but I promise you there was no police escort. 

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Don't know who said that happened, but I promise you there was no police escort. 

I would hope there wasn't a police escort for a regular season win.  In saying that, some towns find it a huge deal when they can beat the rival and I have heard this happen before, just not around here.

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Just saw that this game has been moved to 8 p.m.

Noticed this on another thread.  It is a good idea, but hadn't seen it happen before.

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Just saw that this game has been moved to 8 p.m.

I hope they put something in the paper or at least try to get word out, as the people I have talked to didn't have any idea.

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I hope they put something in the paper or at least try to get word out, as the people I have talked to didn't have any idea.

 

I would not think it too big of a deal they just show up an hour early, they can get a better seat or enjoy a tailgate party or snacks at the consession stand.  Now if they changed it to start earlier there is where you have a problem.

 

I wonder if Sullivan can overcome the mental aspect of playing in Linton, that will be a factor in the game.  Like all games there is a mental aspect to it, especially when you play a team or program such as Linton.

 

Poll rankings mean something, it validates others view of a team and where it stands amoungst it's peers.  Possibly gives a team a mental edge however slight, it does matter.  In a big game nothing can be thrown out or tossed aside, it all matters.  Great coaches look at every detail no matter how slight, it can make a difference, it can give you that break to change the game and get the momentum back and keep it. 

 

Lets see if Sullivan can overcome the challenge facing Linton at home and their #1 1A ranking.

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It is in the paper

Sorry missed it. 

 

In terms of the mental aspect of being number one that is a two way street.  I would feel the desire to beat number one so that I could say that I beat the best, not shy away from it.  I would think competitive nature in the players would give them a drive to beat the number one team.

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In terms of the mental aspect of being number one that is a two way street.  I would feel the desire to beat number one so that I could say that I beat the best, not shy away from it.  I would think competitive nature in the players would give them a drive to beat the number one team.

 

 

Your correct it is a 2 way street, positives & negatives both ways.  Based on my raw calculations (which by the way are not scientific) advantage to the team with the #1 ranking.

 

Teams sometimes are ranked much higher than they should be, many reasons, past success, name recognition, etc......  Though Poll ratings are a very small part of a game they do make a difference in favor of the higher ranked team.  Once a momentum shift happens it is harder for the lower ranked team to overcome the shift than the higher ranked team.  Interesting stuff without scientific data to back it up.

 

This is why fans teams etc do fight and take note of who is ranked and at what slot.  A team that is slipping in the rankings gives an indication of being vulnerable of losing, this actually does affect the team, fans, and its coaches.  Though probably never admitted the question is in the mind.  It gives hope/energy to the opposing team however slight that that team slipping is vulnerable to being beaton and may not be as good.

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I don't know how this isn't a big deal... Unless, someone in Sullivan has dropped the ball on Local Football History 101.  I wander if that is a coaching thing or a community thing.  Either way, kids in Linton respect the 100+ year history.  They are told that generations of their family have battled with this team.  Sure we have other rivals... maybe even more important rivals(due to class or conference)... I just don't see how either side can ignore the history.  It is the Michigan/Ohio State(or take your pick of old rivalries) of this area.  

 

As for the game, I have a good feeling about it.  I really like the way our line is looking this early in the season.  They are making plenty of mistakes, but they are playing hard and fast.  I think you can make an argument that Sullivan has equal or better athletes(at least on paper)...I will be very interested to see what Sullivan's line looks like.  Eastern was physically drained by the half.  I know that is probably not a fair comparison, but it will be interesting to see how the hogs do in the heat.  

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LInton fans, players, and coaches are not excited about this No. 1 ranking.  We've all seen a lot of good teams come and go, both ours and opponents and at this point realize this Miner team is unproven.  All of us appreciate the recognition of the Linton football program but understand we are on top only until someone knocks us off, which could come sooner than later. I'm sure the players are less concerned about the ranking than anyone.

 

I STILL WISH SOME COMPUTER GEEK WOULD TELL ME HOW I CAN GET MY LINTON MINER HELMET AVATAR BACK ON MY POSTS.  I HAVE IT SITTING ON MY DESKTOP BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE IT OVER HERE.  ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED BUY THIS OLD GUY.

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I STILL WISH SOME COMPUTER GEEK WOULD TELL ME HOW I CAN GET MY LINTON MINER HELMET AVATAR BACK ON MY POSTS.  I HAVE IT SITTING ON MY DESKTOP BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE IT OVER HERE.  ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED BUY THIS OLD GUY.

I got that file to work on mine; here is how I did it.

 

Go to your profile (by clicking in the dropdown arrow beside your name at the very top of the page on the right hand side).  Once in there, on the left side will be the black/white silhouette icon.  When you scroll over it, a little button pops up on the top left hand corner that says "change."  Click that.  Assuming you have saved this file to your desktop, browse to that file on your desktop (or wherever you saved it) and select it; hit "ok."  That should do it.  ...and please refrain from calling me a computer geek!!! lol

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I think you can make an argument that Sullivan has equal or better athletes(at least on paper)...

 

As far as "athletes on paper" is concerned, I think Linton's WR Stamm wins that battle vs. every opponent this year.  Stamm made it to the IHSAA state finals in a couple different hurdles events and has done so since his first year or two of high school.  His vertical is... well, not too many 5'10" kids could drop-step dunk during their freshman season.  ...nuff said.

 

However, an athlete on paper doesn't mean squat when it comes to Friday night.  And from what I've heard, Stamm will only be utilized on offense.  And, despite the fact he broke almost every school record for single-season receiving last year, I don't see near the impact this year simply because that 6'8" kid that threw for something like 10,000 yards in his career has graduated.  Regardless, Stamm will remain a threat that defenses will be forced to respect, so long as Linton can throw with moderate success every now and then.  ...maybe coaches find a way to get him more involved.  Outside of Stamm, Linton boasts Rupska, Eaton and VanWinkle as proven athletes... a couple young RB's may force their way into this conversation in the near future.

 

As for Sullivan, the Willis kid is a very nice athlete at QB and probably the 2nd best athlete on the field outside of Stamm.  The difference might be that Willis touches the ball every offensive play for Sullivan... how often will Stamm touch it? Also for Sullivan, Weszley is a quick and slippery 5'9"ish bruiser out of the backfield.  Sullivan also has 6'5" big boy Kennaman at TE and lanky 6'5" Hutchcraft at WR.

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I find it hard to believe Linton's QB last year Austin Karazai?  did not get ANY scholarship offers!  That is just crazy! 

 

As far as Jake goes I guess I should have said he in my opinion SHOULD be getting D1 looks....I never said he HAS offers right meow.  

 

Vanschoyk has the size and speed of a D1 running back, but running for 300 yards against Dugger is like getting 4th place in your fantasy football league....means nothing.  

 

Division 1 Scholarships are very hard to come by for small school kids unfortunately. To put it in perspective, Jake Purichia who I think is the best QB in the state has no D-1 offers. He does have an offer from U of Indy and St. Francis. Its a bitter pill to swallow for small schools.

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I got that file to work on mine; here is how I did it.

 

Go to your profile (by clicking in the dropdown arrow beside your name at the very top of the page on the right hand side).  Once in there, on the left side will be the black/white silhouette icon.  When you scroll over it, a little button pops up on the top left hand corner that says "change."  Click that.  Assuming you have saved this file to your desktop, browse to that file on your desktop (or wherever you saved it) and select it; hit "ok."  That should do it.  ...and please refrain from calling me a computer geek!!! lol

Thank you, my friend.  As you can see, your advice to me did the trick.  And I promise, I won't call you a geek. :)

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Division 1 Scholarships are very hard to come by for small school kids unfortunately. To put it in perspective, Jake Purichia who I think is the best QB in the state has no D-1 offers. He does have an offer from U of Indy and St. Francis. Its a bitter pill to swallow for small schools.

Seems that Purichia has been playing forever LOL! 

I don't think Sullivan can ignore the peformance of soph Mitch Eberhardt last week....   85 yard kickoff return TD, 43 yard Interception for TD, a 4 yard rushing TD, 2 Interceptions total,

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Rumor has it some  extra art work was added on the "L" last night on Linton's field 

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Rumor has it some  extra art work was added on the "L" last night on Linton's field 

Might want to check at JP's Fish place. Might be some extra paint. Just saying.

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Might want to check at JP's Fish place. Might be some extra paint. Just saying.

 

Only thing you will find there is the best tenderloin in the universe lol

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Well, since this is Sullivan week I'll tell you a story about my favorite Linton - Sullivan game.  I know I've told this on here before but maybe some of you haven't seen it.  In 1945, when I was freshman in high school and in the high school band, Linton went to Sullivan for the annual Armistice Day battle.  The Miners hadn't beaten Sullivan since 1933 but we had an outstanding team and won the Southern Indiana Athletic Conference (SIAC) that year.  Linton  had beaten TH Gerstmeyer, Brazil,  Bloomington, Vincennes, and Boonville among the better teams, with the only blemish a 6 - 6 tie with TH Garfield.  Sullivan had their usual very good team that year.  I recall the weather was pleasant that day for a November 11 day.  Back then is was customary for a lot of adults and some not quite adult to take a bottle of booze to the football game, and by the end of the game many fans were feeling pretty good, both from the booze and because of the score.   Thank goodness that custom no longer exists.  Anyway, Linton won the game 

22 - 0 and the celebration was on.  The entire Linton side on the west side of Sportland field poured onto the field and gathered at the south end and began a wild celebration.  Naturally some of the Sullivan faithful took issue with the celebration and huge free for all developed.  I was smart enough to keep my self out of harms way so I just stayed on the south end of the bleachers and watched.  The police came and arrested everyone they could get their hands on, so a large number of Linton fans had to continue the celebration at the Sullivan jail until the next day.  How great it was.  I was only two years old the last time the Miners had beaten the Arrows.  1945. Linton 22 Sullivan 0.

 

 

Tomorrow I'll tell you about another very unusual Linton victory at Sullivan from long ago.

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Well, since this is Sullivan week I'll tell you a story about my favorite Linton - Sullivan game.  I know I've told this on here before but maybe some of you haven't seen it.  In 1945, when I was freshman in high school and in the high school band, Linton went to Sullivan for the annual Armistice Day battle.  The Miners hadn't beaten Sullivan since 1933 but we had an outstanding team and won the Southern Indiana Athletic Conference (SIAC) that year.  Linton  had beaten TH Gerstmeyer,  Bloomington, Vincennes, and Boonville among the better teams, with the only blemish a 6 - 6 tie with TH Garfield.  Sullivan had a very good team that year as usual.  I recall the weather was pleasant that day for a November 11 day.  Back then is was customary for a lot of adults and some not quite adult to take a bottle of booze to the football game, and by the end of the game many fans were feeling pretty good, both from the booze and because of the score.   Thank goodness that custom no longer exists.  Anyway, Linton won the game 

22 - 0 and the celebration was on.  The entire Linton side on the west side of Sportland field poured onto the field and gathered at the south end and began a wild celebration.  Naturally some of the Sullivan faithful took issue with the celebration and huge free for all developed.  I was smart enough to keep my self out of harms way so I just stayed on the south end of the bleachers and watched.  The police came and arrested everyone they could get their hands on, so a large number of Linton fans had to continue the celebration at the Sullivan jail until the next day.  How great it was.  I was only two years old the last time the Miners had beaten the Arrows.  1945. Linton 22 Sullivan 0.

 

 

Tomorrow I'll tell you about another very unusual Linton victory at Sullivan from long ago.

Can't help but smile.  Good story.

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in the late 70,s or early 80,s wasn't there a S burnt on the field a night or two before the game

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in the late 70,s or early 80,s wasn't there a S burnt on the field a night or two before the game

It happened but I don't recall when it was.

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What happened?  This thread has died.  Did I kill it with my story? Sorry about that if I did.

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I have had the pleasure of playing and coaching in this game.  Good luck to the Golden Arrows.  Beating Linton while they sit at #1 is a tremendous opportunity.  I hope everyone is safe this Friday and the heat is not underestimated as the biggest opponent.  Stay hydrated.

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Great Story Kingtut!  

 

PREDICTION:  Sullivan 34  Linton 28 OT

 

Linton runs for over 250 yards in the game

Sullivan throws for 100 and runs for 175

 

Idk, I am just making stuff up!!!

 

costly turnovers and poor special teams cost Linton the game

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The Golden Arrows escaped last weeks game with a win over Vincennes Lincoln   30-27.  Here are some #"s 1st downs V-8  S-15 ,rushing  V-41 for 285 yds.  S-15 for 109 yds., passing V-0-2-1 for 0 yds.  S-14-24-0 for 194yds.,  total yds. V-285. S-303,  penalties 5-30yds both teams, punts V -2-35yd.avg.  S-4-25.8yd. avg.,  fumbles V-6-lost4. S-1-lost 1,  time of possession V-23:35.  S-24:25   Sullivan gave up 285 yds. rushing and 4 scores on 38 carries to 2 backs Hawkins and Nowaskie for an avg. of 7.5 yds a carry.  Sullivans quarterback Willis was 14-24.  194yds  4 tds  to 4 receivers 3 of them scored tds.  Willis also had 56 yds. on 20 carries for a 2.8 yd.avg. rest of team had 14 carries for  53 yds. for  a 3.7 yd.avg.   Even with 5 turnovers committed by the Alices,Sullivan had to kick a field goal with 11 seconds left to win , to close of a game for being + 5 in the turnover category plus all the numbers are almost even between the 2 teams this does"nt  add up well for Sullivan in my opinion. Linton"s  4 headed running attack should thrive also only 3 passing attempts by the Alices , Linton will throw the ball more than 3 times. Even if Sullivan moves the ball through the air an d scores it just puts Linton"s offense. back on the field .  LINTON quiets the critics.  Miners-46.  Sullivan-27 

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