Scores and Updates - Week 14 - Semistate Championships

[Bobref]

43 minutes ago, BTF said:

Yes. Valpo became the 5th team this year to hold Dwenger to 15 points or less. It was Dwenger's defense that has carried them the last couple years. Valpo holding Dwenger to 7 points isn't much different than what a few other teams did this year. Dwenger holding Valpo to 10 is pretty impressive considering 29 was their lowest scoring total prior to last night. 

I still have New Pal as a 14 pt favorite over a very good Valpo team. But they won't hold Valpo to 10 points like Dwenger did. I maintain that Dwenger might have the best defense in the state. 

By my count, Valpo had 3 red zone possessions, 2 of them goal to go, in which they came away with 0 points. Dwenger’s defense deserves some credit for that, but from where I was standing - which was pretty close - Valpo shot themselves in the foot with penalties, bad decision-making, and poor execution. They should have won this game by a comfortable margin, say, 27-7 or so.

[BTF]

1 hour ago, Bobref said:

By my count, Valpo had 3 red zone possessions, 2 of them goal to go, in which they came away with 0 points. Dwenger’s defense deserves some credit for that, but from where I was standing - which was pretty close - Valpo shot themselves in the foot with penalties, bad decision-making, and poor execution. They should have won this game by a comfortable margin, say, 27-7 or so.

Maybe one of the most absurd statements I've seen this year. And Dwenger "should" have won 24-10. I guess the two times Dwenger was deep in Valpo territory and came away with nothing doesn't count. Good teams make things happen. In the end Valpo was better and won by a field goal.

I'm not going to dive further into the absurdity of your comment. Hat's off to Valpo on a great win. And good luck next week. I would love nothing more than to see them win state. Great program, they deserve it. 

Edited November 23, 2019 by BTF
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[Bobref]

1 hour ago, BTF said:

Maybe one of the most absurd statements I've seen this year. And Dwenger "should" have won 24-10. I guess the two times Dwenger was deep in Valpo territory and came away with nothing doesn't count. Good teams make things happen. In the end Valpo was better and won by a field goal.

I'm not going to dive further into the absurdity of your comment. Hat's off to Valpo on a great win. And good luck next week. I would love nothing more than to see them win state. Great program, they deserve it. 

Disagree, certainly. “Absurd,” is a ... well, absurd overstatement. It’s an opinion. You have yours, I have mine. I had no rooting interest. I doubt you can say the same.

[BTF]

3 hours ago, Bobref said:

Disagree, certainly. “Absurd,” is a ... well, absurd overstatement. It’s an opinion. You have yours, I have mine. I had no rooting interest. I doubt you can say the same.

Stating that Valpo "should" have won 27-7 is the epitome of absurd. Sorry, it just is. You can't take into account one teams mistakes but not the others. I don't know what else to call it other than "absurd."

You're not biased toward region teams? Not even a little? Your're from Munster? 

[Bobref]

6 minutes ago, BTF said:

Stating that Valpo "should" have won 27-7 is the epitome of absurd. Sorry, it just is. You can't take into account one teams mistakes but not the others. I don't know what else to call it other than "absurd."

You're not biased toward region teams? Not even a little? Your're from Munster? 

I’ve been an official for 42 years, I’m a professional at being unbiased. And if I were, it wouldn’t be for Valpo. A 1 pt. loss to them my senior year ruined an otherwise perfect season.

[roscoeguy]

Valpo had 3 red zone possessions, and came away with 10 points, not 0 points as you state.  The one time in the red zone they got no points was the result of an interception.  certainly could have score more points with 3 trips and only 10 points

BD was not in the red zone once in the game.

[BTF]

1 hour ago, roscoeguy said:

Valpo had 3 red zone possessions, and came away with 10 points, not 0 points as you state.  The one time in the red zone they got no points was the result of an interception.  certainly could have score more points with 3 trips and only 10 points

BD was not in the red zone once in the game.

Bishop Dwenger made it to the 25 twice. Once throwing and interception at the 15 and another dropping a wide open pass on the 10. Both times coming away with nothing. 

Great defenses keep their opponents out of the endzone. Kudos to both.