DumfriesYMCA Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I’m not sure moving to the SIAC is the best move for jasper or GS I see the argument....but I’m just like meh. The only positive i see out of it is there are no more “well if you played a SIAC schedule” or “team x is better than team Y via transitive property” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3dream Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) On 5/3/2019 at 10:50 AM, Coach_K said: I didn't realize a couple of statements from a month ago was stale. I understand a lot has happened, but I'm sure the Big 8 schools were having these discussions internally when news broke out of Illinois. Your statement about Washington and Lincoln getting new ADs is probably a huge factor. Do these schools want to be in separate conferences for football and the rest of their sports? Question here though (pardon me if this was covered): What happens if the proposal is accepted, but one schools opts out of the Big 8 or wants to leave the New PAC? Tell City joining the PLAC would make logical sense if they feel they can't compete. Lincoln wants this. It wasn't Lincoln wanting more "info." Edited May 9, 2019 by D3dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernFan Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 EVSC already decided on this. They are NOT going to allow Boonville or Jasper into the SIAC. Big 8 tabled the vote for the merger because 3 of the schools are without AD's at this time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFootballfan Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 It looks like this might actually go. If the SIAC will only entertain the idea of adding two teams and not one. Which is what I have heard. So, if Jasper was looking into possibly joining they would need someone to join them. I don't see them being able to get one. That would mean that Jaspers best choice (in my opinion) would be to join the others and make the merger happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, SouthernFan said: EVSC already decided on this. They are NOT going to allow Boonville or Jasper into the SIAC. Big 8 tabled the vote for the merger because 3 of the schools are without AD's at this time. I didn't think Boonville ever wanted in the SIAC, they are a BIG supporter of the Big 8 PAC football merger. I think your point about the Washington AD retiring and the Lincoln AD going to BNL is valid. I do think that is a formality though, from what I can gather Washington and Lincoln are in support of the merger as well. There are a lot of rumors as to Jasper (rumors are just that). I will say this, the original talk from multiple sources was that the SIAC wouldn't consider just one school, I'm not so sure that is the case. Edited May 9, 2019 by Titan32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappy Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 hours ago, SouthernFan said: Big 8 tabled the vote for the merger because 3 of the schools are without AD's at this time. This is what I was told as well, I have been told that the vast majority of programs in both conferences are for this at the AD level and above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Titan32 said: I didn't think Boonville ever wanted in the SIAC, they are a BIG supporter of the Big 8 PAC football merger. I think your point about the Washington AD retiring and the Lincoln AD going to BNL is valid. I do think that is a formality though, from what I can gather Washington and Lincoln are in support of the merger as well. There are a lot of rumors as to Jasper (rumors are just that). I will say this, the original talk from multiple sources was that the SIAC wouldn't consider just one school, I'm not so sure that is the case. I'd be fine with Jasper (and more so of Boonville) in the SIAC. Not a fan of VL joining. I realize its about the same distance, but I hate the drive up 41. If I had to rank the schools I'd like to see in the SIAC, it would be Gibson Southern & Boonville (equally), then Jasper, Mt. Vernon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I call for a Megaconference!!! Big 8, PAC, SIAC, Linton--could be fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappy Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Gipper said: I call for a Megaconference!!! Big 8, PAC, SIAC, Linton--could be fun... That would be a scheduling nightmare to get started!!! I'll put Coach Schenk on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cappy said: That would be a scheduling nightmare to get started!!! I'll put Coach Schenk on it I was being facetious...but why not add the Hoosier Hills conference, too?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanbacker Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) I heard that there is another school in the B8 that is without an AD! But nothing has been released on it. So if that is the case that mean that there could have only been 3 ADs at the B8 meeting. Edited May 10, 2019 by Titanbacker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_K Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Titanbacker said: I heard that there is another school in the B8 that is without an AD! But nothing has been released on it. So if that is the case that mean that there could have only been 3 ADs at the B8 meeting. I don't have any knowledge, but I would assume Hein and Miller were both at the Big 8 meeting even though they aren't coming back. In my experience, they have always been two very professional ADs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Coach_K said: I don't have any knowledge, but I would assume Hein and Miller were both at the Big 8 meeting even though they aren't coming back. In my experience, they have always been two very professional ADs. So can I take it that it is at least implicit in your comment you don't feel the AD turn over had anything to do with the delay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_K Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) I definitely believe that was part of the delay. But I think Miller and Hein said something to the effect of we know we are leaving and this situation will be someone else's decision. Superintendents, Principals and Coaches should all be expressing their opinions both for and against for the new ADs. Edited May 10, 2019 by Coach_K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3dream Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Hein has been a puppet at VL and has held no real power for years minus scheduling. Crap has really hit the fan when you're no longer welcomed or wanted to make athletic hires. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2019/05/14/tradition-rich-jasper-siac-member-1953-79/1195696001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumfriesYMCA Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Titan32 said: https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2019/05/14/tradition-rich-jasper-siac-member-1953-79/1195696001/ Well there’s definitely smoke....is there fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Have NEVER been a Gordon Englehardt fan - and this article just reeks of "7th grade girl gossip". When did he become an opinion columnist? "Several texted questions" were sent ...is this how reporting is done nowadays?? I would prefer just news/facts - not speculation. Sorry, rant over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIndRef Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Titan32 said: https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2019/05/14/tradition-rich-jasper-siac-member-1953-79/1195696001/ Could you give a gist of what it says? I have used all my courier press articles for a month.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQWL Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, SoIndRef said: Could you give a gist of what it says? I have used all my courier press articles for a month.... Did you know that if you open up an Incognito Mode tab, that you can open these all you want? I had no idea that Incognito Mode had a 2nd use until I found this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_K Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, jets said: Have NEVER been a Gordon Englehardt fan - and this article just reeks of "7th grade girl gossip". When did he become an opinion columnist? "Several texted questions" were sent ...is this how reporting is done nowadays?? I would prefer just news/facts - not speculation. Sorry, rant over. I understand your frustration with the article, but Englehardt said there were several sources about the preliminary talks. (I want to know those sources.) He probably texted the questions because Mr. Lewis did not answer phone calls. Mr. Lewis could control the narrative with texting the answers back. (I've been there and done that in the past.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIndRef Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, JQWL said: Did you know that if you open up an Incognito Mode tab, that you can open these all you want? I had no idea that Incognito Mode had a 2nd use until I found this. Does Chrome have one or is it on Firefox only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQWL Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, SoIndRef said: Does Chrome have one or is it on Firefox only? Chrome does. I didn't know Firefox was still a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIndRef Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, JQWL said: Chrome does. I didn't know Firefox was still a thing. Order of Imortance: 1. Chrome 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Netscape (yes, that one) 134. Internet Explorer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenatorFan Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 8:49 AM, SoIndRef said: Order of Imortance: 1. Chrome 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Netscape (yes, that one) 134. Internet Explorer Oh boy, this ought to generate another 15 pages of discussion. 😂😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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