Guest Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, TrojanDad said: Not trying to reopen this can of worms, but read a quote this morning that would support T’s quote about the best having both. Nyheim Hines quote after returning 2 punts for TD’s yesterday against Carolina.....”Fast guys run track,” said Hines, a former national champion hurdler who became the first Colts player to score on 2 punt returns in one game. “But to play football, you have to be fast and you have to be quick on your feet.” (Michael Marot AP) I like it. As good as a football player as Hines is, he was also an All-American track and field stud at NC State. I’ll take his word for it. Just don’t give me this “football speed is different than track speed” garbage. Hines’ performance yesterday proved that speed is speed... I’ve never argued that football requires different variables. Track guys have the SPEED required... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Temptation said: I like it. As good as a football player as Hines is, he was also an All-American track and field stud at NC State. I’ll take his word for it. Just don’t give me this “football speed is different than track speed” garbage. Hines’ performance yesterday proved that speed is speed... I’ve never argued that football requires different variables. Track guys have the SPEED required... But what if the football speed is only good for 10-15 yards? Is that something that isn't good for track? I mean really, that wouldn't do anything for track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Robert said: But what if the football speed is only good for 10-15 yards? Is that something that isn't good for track? I mean really, that wouldn't do anything for track. Sure it does. Guys getting out of the blocks quickly even if they don’t have the same top end speed as others can be a great equalizer, especially in the 55/60 (indoors) and 100/200 outdoors. I’ve seen many guys in the 200 that don’t have great top end speed but know how to get out of the blocks and run the curve to perfection. More football guys don’t make it in track than track guys that don’t make it in football. A lot of football guys think they’re fast…until they try running track in the spring. Edited December 23, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Temptation said: Sure it does. Guys getting out of the blocks quickly even if they don’t have the same top end speed as others can be a great equalizer, especially in the 55/60 (indoors) and 100/200 outdoors. I’ve seen many guys in the 200 that don’t have great top end speed but know how to get out of the blocks and run the curve to perfection. More football guys don’t make it in track than track guys that don’t make it in football. A lot of football guys think they’re fast…until they try running track in the spring. Understand perfectly, except the third sentence. I know lots of track guys who would wilt on the football field, but I'm just a high school teacher, so maybe they aren't real track guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Robert said: Understand perfectly, except the third sentence. I know lots of track guys who would wilt on the football field, but I'm just a high school teacher, so maybe they aren't real track guys. They might wilt on the football field but not due to a lack of speed... There are many other variables required to be successful in football. Mr. Spegal is the topic of this thread and is a prime example. He was the fastest player on the field many times this fall and ran away from defensive backs yet was average at best on the track last spring. Edited December 23, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Temptation said: They might wilt on the football field but not due to a lack of speed... There are many other variables required to be successful in football. Mr. Spegal is the topic of this thread and is a prime example. He was the fastest player on the field many times this fall and ran away from defensive backs yet was average at best on the track last spring. Your last paragraph literally just made my case. Thank you. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said: Your last paragraph literally just made my case. Thank you. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Your case was that Spegal played JV teams all year and played two actual teams with a pulse? Where’d I miss that? It’s easy to be the fastest player on the field when you run the gauntlet of the HHC...a different story in an non-classed sport like track where you feed into the Warren Central sectional is a whole .other ballgame. Out running Shelbyville, Delta, Pendleton Heights, etc is a bit different than trying to out run Warren, Franklin Central and Roncalli. Edited December 23, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Charlie is not any slower In the spring, his competition is just faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmizers3 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/18/2019 at 3:25 PM, DT said: To each his own. If Im going to invest the time to watch a football game, I have many options. I choose those that are most appealing to me. I do occasionally lower my standard when I watch IU football. If you watch the Bears you constantly lower your standards. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Temptation said: Your case was that Spegal played JV teams all year and played two actual teams with a pulse? Where’d I miss that? It’s easy to be the fastest player on the field when you run the gauntlet of the HHC...a different story in an non-classed sport like track where you feed into the Warren Central sectional is a whole .other ballgame. Out running Shelbyville, Delta, Pendleton Heights, etc is a bit different than trying to out run Warren, Franklin Central and Roncalli. 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Watching Air Force and Washington State tonight. CS would excel in this AF offense. Lots of quick hitting fullback runs, Spegals specialty. Current AF fullback is 6-2 , 220. AF OL not huge. Average about 6-3 and 275 Was CS recruited by the service academies? Edited December 28, 2019 by DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, TrojanDad said: He received an offer from Army. Check my past posts. Parker Ferguson, AFA 2 year starting LT, Center Grove grad. That AF line looks like a CG OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I think 77 was offsides on that 4th down conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 12/27/2019 at 10:54 PM, TrojanDad said: He received an offer from Army. Check my past posts. Parker Ferguson, AFA 2 year starting LT, Center Grove grad. His mom is a Gibson Southern grad.....class of '89....just saying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Put him on the "hands" team.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, TrojanDad said: I didn't know that....I will mention that next time I see her. CGHS assistant principal. Tricia and I went k-12 together...fine human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Man, I bet that Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are grateful that the elite track speed of Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins and Demarcus Robinson “translated” to the football field. Phew... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Add Raheem Mostert to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 6:11 PM, Temptation said: Man, I bet that Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are grateful that the elite track speed of Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins and Demarcus Robinson “translated” to the football field. Phew... This makes more sense to me than anything. http://trackfootballconsortium.com/the-death-of-football-fast-and-track-speed/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanka Jahari Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Does anyone have any endzone camera view highlights of Mr. Spegal that I could view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) https://twitter.com/ACott58/status/1320191548886294528?s=20 Charlie Spegal has not lost a football game since October 20, 2017 as a member of the Delta Eagles. Unbelievable stat. @charliespegal32 @NPHSDragons Edited October 25, 2020 by CaptainHook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 18 hours ago, CaptainHook said: https://twitter.com/ACott58/status/1320191548886294528?s=20 Charlie Spegal has not lost a football game since October 20, 2017 as a member of the Delta Eagles. Unbelievable stat. @charliespegal32 @NPHSDragons Did he dress or is he redshirting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxawax Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Whiting89 said: Did he dress or is he redshirting? Brings up an interesting question. If memory serves correctly an athlete could play in 3 games and still red shirt. Does that change this year with the decrease in the schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alduflux Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Staxawax said: Brings up an interesting question. If memory serves correctly an athlete could play in 3 games and still red shirt. Does that change this year with the decrease in the schedule? All athletes have been granted an extra year of eligibility due to Covid. https://www.ocregister.com/2020/08/21/ncaa-grants-extra-year-of-eligibility-to-fall-sport-athletes-addresses-scholarships-in-light-of-covid-19/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonace1 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/25/2020 at 5:36 PM, Whiting89 said: Did he dress or is he redshirting? He did dress. He was also IU's special teams scout team player of the week this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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