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2 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

"vital support in the food, beverage, pharmaceuticals, medical supplies, and
sanitation industries."

You drive a truck, or maintain/repair them.

Or you are a janitor.  

Close?

 

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The liberal mainstream media has promoted considerable fake news. In this thread alone liberals have discovered the following:

1. Trump never stated the coronavirus was a hoax.

2. No patients have died as a result of taking the drug Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine.

3. There is no rift between Dr. Fauci and President Trump.

4. Although there has been insufficient time to complete controlled clinical trials on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, Dr. Fauci is not against doctors prescribing  the medication.

One would think after three years of non stop lies from the liberal mainstream media on the Russia hoax that liberals would realize their sources of news are fake.

 

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33 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

I'll answer your questions if you answer mine, which you ignored:

So what line of work makes you such an "essential" employee?

 

 

29 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

"vital support in the food, beverage, pharmaceuticals, medical supplies, and
sanitation industries."

How are you still working if you're non-essential? Is your employer defying the ban on non-essential businesses?

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2 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

How are you still working if you're non-essential? Is your employer defying the ban on non-essential businesses?

You didn't answer my question in sufficient detail, instead purposefully being overly vague and obtuse. Possibly because you are either lying or have something to hide.  

What is so difficult about telling the truth like "I work in the pharmaceutical industry" or "I drive a school bus", or "I own a convenience store."?

Answer my question in sufficient detail and I will happily respond in kind.

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Just now, Muda69 said:

You didn't answer my question in sufficient detail, instead purposefully being overly vague and obtuse. Possibly because you are either lying or have something to hide.  

What is so difficult about telling the truth like "I work in the pharmaceutical industry" or "I drive a school bus", or "I own a convenience store."?

Answer my question in sufficient detail and I will happily respond in kind.

I answered your question with a statement directly from the letter I was given to show law enforcement if I was questioned about non-essential travel. If it's ok for the Police, but not ok for you, then I think you're the one who has something to hide. My question to you had nothing to do with your occupation other than to ask why you were still working if you're considered non-essential.

Besides that, I've described what I do several times on this Forum, and at least twice in response to your inquiries. Not my problem your memory sucks.

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9 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

I answered your question with a statement directly from the letter I was given to show law enforcement if I was questioned about non-essential travel. If it's ok for the Police, but not ok for you, then I think you're the one who has something to hide. My question to you had nothing to do with your occupation other than to ask why you were still working if you're considered non-essential.

Nice dodge gonzo. That letter from law enforcement was likely written to cover a wide range of what the Indiana state government has deemed 'essential'.  You failed to answer a specific question, admit it.

No, I have nothing to hide.  I work as an information technology consultant for a Midwest manufacturing facility that has been deemed non-essential.   That said my job continues whether or not they are currently manufacturing widgets. And the nature of my work means I can work from home if need be. So my current employer has asked myself and others to continue on working on our specific projects from home.  That said if this government imposed economic disaster continues much past say, April, myself and others will probably be let go.  

17 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Besides that, I've described what I do several times on this Forum, and at least twice in response to your inquiries. Not my problem your memory sucks.

No you have not, not in any meaningful detail. Not my problem that you continue to obfuscate, duck and dodge.  Why you are embarrassed of your career is beyond me.  

It's obvious however from this supposed letter that travel is part of your profession. I still say truck/bus/farm machinery repairman or HVAC technician.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Why you are embarrassed of your career is beyond me.  

Not embarrassed at all. I'm one of only 2 people located in this State who do the same job.

 

8 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

I still say truck/bus/farm machinery repairman or HVAC technician.

And you're still wrong. Now we can add GDS to your TDS affliction along with a whole other range of DS's.

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Just now, gonzoron said:

Not embarrassed at all. I'm one of only 2 people located in this State who do the same job.

Sounds like it takes a very specific and highly trained skill set.  And what specifically is that job?

1 minute ago, gonzoron said:

And you're still wrong. Now we can add GDS to your TDS affliction along with a whole other range of DS's.

What can I say.  You fascinate me.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Snake milker??

 

 

34 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Snake milker??

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31 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

wait a minute....Fred?  Fred Garvin?  

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Wrong again. Just like always.

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How Long Can an All-Food Economy Stay Stable Under Shadow of COVID-19?: https://reason.com/2020/04/02/how-long-can-an-all-food-economy-stay-stable-under-shadow-of-covid-19/

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How long can an economy that is legally about pretty much nothing but food production, distribution, and sales survive in this COVID-19 haunted world?

The United Nation's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) isn't feeling good about the near future, to judge from the statements posted on its website. "As of now, disruptions are minimal as food supply has been adequate and markets have been stable so far," it says. But it detects threats looming from both "logistics bottlenecks (not being able to move food from point A to point B), and likely…less food of high-value commodities (i.e. fruits and vegetables) being produced."

Over the next two months, the FAO anticipates "disruptions in the food supply chains," thanks to "restrictions of movement, as well as basic aversion behaviour by workers…. Shortage of fertilizers, veterinary medicines and other input could affect agricultural production. Closures of restaurants and less frequent grocery shopping [will likely] diminish demand for fresh produce and fisheries products, affecting producers and suppliers."

The agency is particularly concerned with "countries that rely heavily on food imports, such as Small Islands Developing States, and countries that depend on primary exports like oil. Vulnerable groups also include small-scale farmers, pastoralists, and fishers who might be hindered from working their land, caring for their livestock, or fishing. They will also face challenges accessing markets to sell their products or buy essential inputs, or struggle due to higher food prices and limited purchasing power." The FAO also worries what will happen to the developing-world children—up to 85 million of them—who depend on school-supplied meals.

During the 2014–16 Ebola ourbreak in Sierra Leone, the group reports, quarantines "led to a spike in hunger and malnutrition. The suffering worsened as restrictions on movement led both to labour shortages at harvest time even as other farmers were unable to bring their produce to market."

The FAO says is already sees "challenges in terms of the logistics involving the movement of food…and the pandemic's impact on livestock sector due to reduced access to animal feed and slaughterhouses' diminished capacity (due to logistical constraints and labour shortages) similar to what happened in China." Transport route blockages from virus fears could especially harm the fresh food market, where products are highly perishable. The FAO thus anticipates price spikes in the meat and fish markets.

Some countries are already practicing isolated bits of food protectionism. Malaysia closed some palm oil planatations because of a virus outbreak. Reuters reports that Kazakhstan has "suspended exports of wheat flour, buckwheat, sugar, sunflower oil, and some vegetables until at least April 15 to ensure their steady supply during the coronavirus emergency." Russia has stopped exporting processed grains, and Vietnam is stockpiling rice.

Here in America, the U.S. Department of Agriculture continues to order the destruction of tanker trucks of milk because processing dairies are full—a product of demand spiking and then, with the disappearance of school lunches, crashing. The U.S. also faces COVID-19-inspired immigration restrictions that will likely harm our food production.

The United Farm Workers union is warning that American food producers aren't doing enough to prepare for the pandemic's potential impact on the industry's workers. "More than 400 commodities grown in California represent 13% of US agricultural value, totaling some $50 billion in business each year," Quartz reports, and "just two California farms supply about 85% of US carrots. If the virus were to disrupt production at the largest of the state's 77,500 farms, it would be felt globally" as "the state's department of food and agriculture put its combined agricultural export value at $20.5 billion."

Short-term stockpiling of things such as yeast can create apparent shortages that are really just supply-chain blockages. But as Ananth Iyer, a supply chain specialist with Purdue University, tells Quartz, labor-dependent items such as avocados, grapes, and tomatoes might face quicker actual shortages if agriculture workers start getting sick.

If U.S. farm worker safety is the world's worry, then the world's production and supply chain is the U.S.'s worry. As the food economist Shub Debgupta argued in The New York Times this week, "The United States relies on foreign suppliers for almost 20 percent of its food, including 80 percent of its seafood, with almost half of that coming from Asia….About half of our imported dairy products come from Europe, also hit hard by the virus. Almost 25 percent of America's cheese comes from Italy…the nation with the world's highest death toll from Covid-19."

"Significant parts of the food supply could be jeopardized should food protectionism accelerate," Debgupta worries. Among other things, he recommends that "state and federal authorities…provide flexibility while ensuring food safety and minimizing waste."

In short: We're entering unprecedented territory in the world of food production, processing, and distribution. But as always, the more interconnected our supply and labor chains remain—and the less governments or viruses keep them from functioning—the better fed we are likely to be.

 

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51 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Nation’s top coronavirus expert Dr. Anthony Fauci forced to beef up security as death threats increase

https://fox59.com/news/coronavirus/nations-top-coronavirus-expert-dr-anthony-fauci-forced-to-beef-up-security-as-death-threats-increase/

You knew it was just a matter of time before this was going to happen.

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Clinton County Commissioners threaten to ban all travel within their domain:  https://clintoncountydailynews.com/commissioners-urge-everyone-to-follow-essential-travel-rules/

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The Clinton County Commissioners released a statement late Thursday afternoon regarding the COVID-19 pandemic. The statement follows.

“Clinton County has experienced low numbers with Covid-19. With the warmer weather we are seeing more traffic on our roadways. The Governor has given a broad set of rules to follow for essential businesses to remain open. The County Commissioners have the authority to ban all travel under Indiana State Law. We are trying to refrain from doing so. We need to see a significantly reduced amount of traffic and social interaction.

“Please research the science behind this virus. Our hospital is prepared, our county is prepared but we cannot take care of all of us in the worst scenario possible. There is no way to sugarcoat this. There are not enough hospital beds and ventilators for our 33,000 residents to be cared for if we don’t slow the spread now. Please visit covidactnow.org and click on Indiana. You can see how easily our healthcare system could become overwhelmed. Even with the small percentage of persons who could be come deceased from Covid-19 our states Coroner and Morgue Services will quickly become overwhelmed. While we understand the virus doesn’t show severe symptoms in most cases, we need to do whatever we can now to keep people alive.

“Stay home. Stay away from people that don’t live with you. Do whatever it takes to stay healthy. People of any age can be affected. We need your help, follow the rules. It’s no fun to be shut in your house but you have to find ways to make it work. All of our lives depend on everyone doing their part.”

Yeah, I'm sure these Commissioners are all staying at home as well.  One of them, Mr. Scott Shoemaker, is the acting Frankfort City Chief of Police.  Is he running his department from home?

 

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CDC Director Reacts to Resurfaced Tape of Fauci Downplaying Virus Threat

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield called in to the Brian Kilmeade Show to discuss the nation's progress in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic. Among the topics discussed was unearthed audio of White House Coronavirus Task Force member and NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci from January 26th assuring Americans that the coronavirus is nothing to worry about.

"The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable. "It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about."

Director Redfield agreed with Dr. Fauci's assessment, saying that at that time in January the information coming out of China suggested "they were pretty certain that this was not transmitted human to human."

"Obviously that became corrected as they saw in the first three, four weeks in January that human to human spread was not only occurring it's actually, as I said, more infectious and I think that led to the situation that we're in today. I think no one could have predicted how transmissible, how infectious this virus really is," he added.

https://radio.foxnews.com/2020/03/27/cdc-director-reacts-to-resurfaced-tape-of-dr-anthony-fauci-downplaying-virus-threat/

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3M is making 10 million masks a week, but the person in charge in Florida cannot buy a single one because he does not have the cash up front to pay for them. 3M says their dealers are selling them to foreign countries for cash up front though. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW3dyjRR8V8&fbclid=IwAR1YXguEPXmCVFu_G7N1LXEZ8VNVFvBkG2Sn2Jq6MaOB_9WQE8fhMNnCdpA

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