Muda69 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Robert said: Nope, I've studied it extensively. Will you please share with us the source material(s) you used for your studies? 11 hours ago, Robert said: They often inherited it or were in the right place at the right time. So? I was raised with the mantra "The world's not fair. Get used to it. Make you own success." So the achievements and monetary success of someone like Bill Gates should be diminished because he was one of those who were in the right place at the right time? Or maybe he had the foresight and intelligence to see this little thing, in its infancy, called the "personal computer" was going to change the world? As for inheritance again so what? Shouldn't an individual get to choose to whom they give the money/resources that they own and control? What business is that of government? 11 hours ago, Robert said: As the white population shrinks across the world, things will change tremendously. How so? Are you sure that these non-white entrepreneurs and businessmen will not just take their place among the "small families" that you so deride? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 How again is all of this related to football? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 hours ago, Gipper said: I had a nice upbringing as I was privileged. But you know what? I feel no sense of entitlement, I bust my butt for everything. It actually makes me work harder. I'm thinking more of the generational wealthy and royalty and the large churches of the world. I am by no means putting anyone down who works hard. I know a few-- trust fund babies who work very hard. 1 hour ago, Gipper said: How again is all of this related to football? Simply ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Muda69 said: Will you please share with us the source material(s) you used for your studies? So? I was raised with the mantra "The world's not fair. Get used to it. Make you own success." So the achievements and monetary success of someone like Bill Gates should be diminished because he was one of those who were in the right place at the right time? Or maybe he had the foresight and intelligence to see this little thing, in its infancy, called the "personal computer" was going to change the world? As for inheritance again so what? Shouldn't an individual get to choose to whom they give the money/resources that they own and control? What business is that of government? How so? Are you sure that these non-white entrepreneurs and businessmen will not just take their place among the "small families" that you so deride? You can take some history courses, too. Of course, you might want to take them at a private university. Nobody's work is diminished. He does very good things and doesn't horde his ideas, nor his wealth, so it seems. My parents never told me the world wasn't fair. They told me to do the best I can, visit the world, do what I would like to do, be kind, and to be respectful....among other things. Absolutely, one should choose. But in a capitalistic society, one has to play within the capitalistic rules set up by that government. Some say China is communist, some say socialist, some say fascist, but there is a lot of capitalism happening in their ranks. I think large churches are communist or socialist, but you don't see their members saying that, but when members need help, the churches shut their doors more often than not. Small, local churches help until it hurts. Simple observations. As usual, we're more alike than we're different, we just have different ways of perceiving things and communicating. i'm not deriding as much as stating that they are controlling/monopolistic, the antithesis of capitalism. From living in Latin America, I can tell you that from my experience and perspective, the racism, sexism, classism, and other isms are worse. I'm not sure about Asia, but here that they could be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Robert said: I'm thinking more of the generational wealthy and royalty and the large churches of the world. I am by no means putting anyone down who works hard. I know a few-- trust fund babies who work very hard. Simply ignore. All I can do. This wasn’t directed at you, Robert. But I bet you know who it was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Muda69 said: So? I was raised with the mantra "The world's not fair. Get used to it. Make you own success." So the achievements and monetary success of someone like Bill Gates should be diminished because he was one of those who were in the right place at the right time? Or maybe he had the foresight and intelligence to see this little thing, in its infancy, called the "personal computer" was going to change the world? Why of all of the human beings on planet Earth do you pick BILL GATES to idolize? Gates did squat for the PC; MS-DOS was the cheaper OS for the PC. Even then, MS-DOS wasn't original- it's a clone of CP/M, which another company developed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, TrojanDad said: Thanks DT for this post. Man did it derail. There is a club on GID for non-football related topics.... I just go with the flow. I don't think contraction is needed. Kids want to represent their schools. Let the kids be kids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said: Why of all of the human beings on planet Earth do you pick BILL GATES to idolize? Gates did squat for the PC; MS-DOS was the cheaper OS for the PC. Even then, MS-DOS wasn't original- it's a clone of CP/M, which another company developed. Now, you’re playing chess... 22 minutes ago, TrojanDad said: Thanks DT for this post. Man did it derail. There is a club on GID for non-football related topics.... No kidding. Like most people on here, I love football. It should be played and enjoyed by all who desire to do so. Case closed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert said: You can take some history courses, too. Of course, you might want to take them at a private university. Nobody's work is diminished. He does very good things and doesn't horde his ideas, nor his wealth, so it seems. My parents never told me the world wasn't fair. They told me to do the best I can, visit the world, do what I would like to do, be kind, and to be respectful....among other things. Absolutely, one should choose. But in a capitalistic society, one has to play within the capitalistic rules set up by that government. Some say China is communist, some say socialist, some say fascist, but there is a lot of capitalism happening in their ranks. I think large churches are communist or socialist, but you don't see their members saying that, but when members need help, the churches shut their doors more often than not. Small, local churches help until it hurts. Simple observations. As usual, we're more alike than we're different, we just have different ways of perceiving things and communicating. i'm not deriding as much as stating that they are controlling/monopolistic, the antithesis of capitalism. From living in Latin America, I can tell you that from my experience and perspective, the racism, sexism, classism, and other isms are worse. I'm not sure about Asia, but here that they could be. Hear, not here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Robert said: Hear, not here. Asia could be tough. So many different cultures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert said: I just go with the flow. I don't think contraction is needed. Kids want to represent their schools. Let the kids be kids. Contraction isn’t needed. But even if it was, it wouldn’t be up to us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 19 hours ago, DanteEstonia said: Why of all of the human beings on planet Earth do you pick BILL GATES to idolize? Gates did squat for the PC; MS-DOS was the cheaper OS for the PC. Even then, MS-DOS wasn't original- it's a clone of CP/M, which another company developed. Bullshit and you know it. Read your history. Who wrote the first viable BASIC for the Altair and the 6502 microprocessor? Mr. Gates and Mr. Allen did. And Mr. Gates was smart enough to make a savvy acquisition, 86-DOS – owned by Seattle Computer Products and written by Tim Paterson, and rename is MS-DOS. Sorry that you deride any individual who shows real intelligence and business acumen. But they again you are a champion of the "race to the bottom" paradigm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: And Mr. Gates was smart enough to make a savvy acquisition, 86-DOS – owned by Seattle Computer Products and written by Tim Paterson, and rename is MS-DOS. It says a lot about your character to see how much you value a charlatan and shyster like Bill Gates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said: It says a lot about your character to see how much you value a charlatan and shyster like Bill Gates. No, Chief. It says a lot about yours that don't choose to recognize technical talent and business intelligence. You want a real tech charlatan and shyster? Try the late Steve Jobs. His success was built on the back of primarily one brilliant and graceful individual: Steve Wozniak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 What about Paul Allen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Gipper said: What about Paul Allen? What about the late Mr. Allen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Hanson Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 All politics aside, I do not think that the coronavirus will speed up contraction (At least I hope). I think all schools are negatively being impacted and I saw a post on Twitter about this football season will be where we really see who is committed to being a champion and doing the right thing when NO ONE is watching. I certainly feel for the Seniors now and the juniors (future seniors next year) have a tough task ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteEstonia Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 hours ago, TrojanDad said: Surely President Obama would never give out a Presidential Medal of Freedom to a charlatan and shyster....... Facts seem to be overrated in your thought process Dante...... This wasn’t a Democrat/Republican thing, but okay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Coach Hanson said: All politics aside, I do not think that the coronavirus will speed up contraction (At least I hope). I think all schools are negatively being impacted and I saw a post on Twitter about this football season will be where we really see who is committed to being a champion and doing the right thing when NO ONE is watching. I certainly feel for the Seniors now and the juniors (future seniors next year) have a tough task ahead. Interesting comment. Football is a very social game. KIds like to play with their buddies and friends. Perhaps this situation will push more athletes towards individual sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Hanson Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, DT said: Interesting comment. Football is a very social game. KIds like to play with their buddies and friends. Perhaps this situation will push more athletes towards individual sports. This could definitely push more kids to individual sports such as wrestling but I still think that it won’t dramatically change football numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Coach Hanson said: This could definitely push more kids to individual sports such as wrestling but I still think that it won’t dramatically change football numbers. Football numbers are already in decline. That ship left the port long ago my friend. I would like to see 20 or 30 of the weaker programs in the state fold up their tents and create new opportunities for other students to take part in. This is the perfect time for ADs and admins to blame outside influences for the cancellation of their football programs. Its really an easy out and not at all difficult to sell to parents and communities. If my school is 3-38 over the past 4 seasons, perhaps there are more pressing issues at hand than continuing on with this type of performance. This could help us get to the targeted 280 much quicker than originally forecasted. Edited March 24, 2020 by DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Hanson Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, DT said: Football numbers are already in decline. That ship left the port long ago my friend. I would like to see 20 or 30 of the weaker programs in the state fold up their tents and create new opportunities for other students to take part in. This is the perfect time for ADs and admins to blame outside influences for the cancellation of their football programs. Its really an easy out and not at all difficult to sell to parents and communities. If my school is 3-38 over the past 4 seasons, perhaps there are more pressing issues at hand than continuing on with this type of performance. This could help us get to the targeted 280 much quicker than originally forecasted. Your logic as far as a spectator makes sense but I still really think that every school should should deserve the opportunity to compete no matter what their talent is. Imagine a school that is 0-9 that has 1 division 1 athlete and 1 d3 athlete coming up, they could easily be 3-6 the next season or a 4-5 team. I enjoy the conversation but there is always going to be someone on the bottom. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipper Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, DT said: Interesting comment. Football is a very social game. KIds like to play with their buddies and friends. Perhaps this situation will push more athletes towards individual sports. Perhaps it won’t. 1 minute ago, Coach Hanson said: Your logic as far as a spectator makes sense but I still really think that every school should should deserve the opportunity to compete no matter what their talent is. Imagine a school that is 0-9 that has 1 division 1 athlete and 1 d3 athlete coming up, they could easily be 3-6 the next season or a 4-5 team. I enjoy the conversation but there is always going to be someone on the bottom. Math is funny that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Hanson Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Gipper said: Perhaps it won’t. Math is funny that way... Math makes everything interesting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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