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4 hours ago, Temptation said:

Here we go:

2002:

Nathan Rhodes - CA - Washington

Brandon Jefferies - NC - Tennessee

Justin Blalock - TX - Texas

Derek Morris - NC - Ohio State

Winston Justice - CA - USC

 

2003:

Ofa Mohetau - TX - BYU

Jorrie Adams - TX - Texas A&M

 

2004:

Jeff Byers - CO - USC

Thomas Herring - CA - USC

Roland Martin - IL - Michigan State

 

2005:

Eugene Monroe - NJ - Virginia

Reggie Youngblood - TX - Miami (FL)

Alex Boone - OH - Ohio State

Dan Doering - IL - Iowa

Marques Slocum - PA - Michigan

Dace RIchardson - IL - Iowa

Michael Oher - TN - Mississippi

 

2006:

Andre Smith - AL - Alabama

Sam Young - FL - Notre Dame

Carl Johnson - SC - Florida

 

2007:

Tray Allen - TX - Texas

Josh Oglesby - WI - Wisconsin

James Wilson - FL - Florida

Ryan Miller - CO - Colorado

 

2008:

Michael Brewster - FL - Ohio State

Matt Kalil - CA - USC

Mike Adams - OH - Ohio State

Tyler Love - AL - Alabama

 

2009:

Mason Walters - TX - Texas

Xavier Nixon - NC - Florida

DJ Fluker - AL - Alabama

 

2010:

Seantrel Henderson - MN - Miami (FL)

Ja'Wuan James - GA - Tennessee

Robert Crisp - NC - North Carolina State

 

2011:

Cyrus Kouandijo - MD - Alabama

La'el Collins - LA - LSU

Christian Westerman - AZ - Auburn

 

2012:

DJ Humphries - NC - Florida

Kyle Murphy - CA - Stanford

John Theus - FL - Georgia

Isaac Seumalo - OR - Oregon State

Andrus Peat - AZ - Stanford

 

2013:

Laremy Tunsil - FL - Mississippi

A'Shawn Robinson - TX - Alabama

 

2014:

Cam Robinson - LA - Alabama

Damian Prince - MD - Maryland

 

2015:

Martez Ivey - FL - Florida

Mitch Hyatt - GA - Clemson

Chuma Edoga - GA - USC

Maea Teuhema - TX - LSU

 

2016:

Greg Little - TX - Mississippi

Jonah WIlliams - CA - Alabama

Tommy Kraemer - OH - Notre Dame

 

2017:

Alex Leatherwood - FL - Alabama

Foster Sarrel - WA - Stanford

Walker Little - TX - Stanford

Trey Smith - TN - Tennessee

Isaiah Wilson - NY - Georgia

Wyatt Davis - CA - Ohio State

Calvin Ashley - DC - Auburn

 

2018:

Nioholas Petit-Frere - FL - Ohio State

Jamaree Salyer - GA - Georgia

Jackson Carman - OH - Clemson

Cade Mays - TN - Georgia

Brey Walker - OK - Oklahoma

 

2019:

Evan Neal - FL - Alabama

Darnell Wright - WV - Tennessee

Kenyon Green - TX - Texas A&M

Logan Brown - MI - Wisconsin

Clay Webb - AL - Georgia

Charles Cross - MS - Mississippi State

Wanya Morris - GA - Tennessee

Harry Miller - GA - Ohio State

 

Lots of studs for sure, but a LOT of "misses" (especially by the Pro Bowl criteria) you stated @DT.  Five star offensive linemen do seem to be at a premium but they are far from a slam dunk.

Your resident GID "fact checker" is signing off.

I will carry the torch.  Other viewpoints need to be heard and respected as more irons in the fire is a necessity.  This is a FORUM (all caps for effect: pretty cool, huh?), not a bully pulpit...

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17 minutes ago, Gipper said:

It’s not nonsense and I’m nowhere near the Slough.  Actually, it’s good debate, or maybe you need to get out as these attacks and potshots are far from productive.   I’m too busy taking the high road to stoop to your predicatable level.  A few f-bombs and 3rd grade level insults will not scare me away but only increase my resolve to bring about other points which must be heard.  Please respect that.

Love ya Bro

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4 hours ago, DT said:

Love ya Bro

What in the HELL are you talking about?  @DT stated a common idiom and I tested it with data.  Settle down tough guy.

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10 minutes ago, Temptation said:

What in the HELL are you talking about?  @DT stated a common idiom and I tested it with data.  Settle down tough guy.

Youre data test proved the point that 5 star offensive linemen are indeed gold.

Will they all become HOFamers?  No.  BUt the list of P5 schools they attended sure is impressive.  How many made it to the pros?

 

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On 4/4/2020 at 1:10 PM, DT said:

 

I think he will have an Anthony Munoz type career.  

2 Year First Team All American

Top 3 Draft Pick after Junior season

12 Year NFL career 

10 Pro Bowls / All Pro

Hall of Fame

 

You used the phrase “rarely miss” along with the criteria mentioned above...

Of course 5 star linemen commit to elite programs.  They are a rare breed as evidenced by my data.

I defend you often on here as you make some great points and generate many great discussions but you’re moving the goalposts once again here my man.

Don’t backtrack after the fact. You meant what you said.

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1 minute ago, Temptation said:

You used the phrase “rarely miss” along with the criteria mentioned above...

I defend you often on here as you make some great points and generate many great discussions but you’re moving the goalposts once again here my man.

Don’t backtrack after the fact. You meant what you said.

I anticipated that BS moving the goalpost comment.

Find something new will you.

I'm thrilled you are reading and dissecting every word I write,  looking for an opportunity to disprove me.  It just further proves the immense power I hold over this forum.

Read on my man

 

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11 minutes ago, DT said:

I anticipated that BS moving the goalpost comment.

Find something new will you.

I'm thrilled you are reading and dissecting every word I write,  looking for an opportunity to disprove me.  It just further proves the immense power I hold over this forum.

Read on my man

 

You can’t just vomit generalities out of your mouth and not expect to be called on them.  

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Just now, Temptation said:

You can’t just vomit generalities out of your mouth and not expect to be called on them.  

Call out all you want.  The views and responses just continue to pile up.  I'll take 90% accuracy and let all you vermin argue over the other 10%

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43 minutes ago, DT said:

Call out all you want.  The views and responses just continue to pile up.  I'll take 90% accuracy and let all you vermin argue over the other 10%

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1 hour ago, DT said:

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I’m not the one that anointed an 18 year old kid as the next Anthony Munoz and a Canton inductee before he’s ever stepped foot on a college campus...

That's a pretty big 10 percent.  You did well on the true/false and multiple choice portion of the test but bombed the essay question chief.

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As a general rule, I say DUDES play defense.  Pure Athleticism rules the day on that side of the ball (Not that disciplined play and technique can't raise a players ceiling considerably).  Offense is about execution, you can get away with lesser athletes on the OL with good coaching.  Look at all the mid-round guys that the New England Patriots have played with on the OL over the last 20 years.  

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4 hours ago, TrojanDad said:

Tony Mandarich.....sensational college career.  6'5" 330 with a 4.65 40.  2nd pick of the 1st round.  We all know what happened next.  

Never a given at each level.

To many roids

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On 4/9/2020 at 5:11 PM, Wedgebuster said:

As a general rule, I say DUDES play defense.  Pure Athleticism rules the day on that side of the ball (Not that disciplined play and technique can't raise a players ceiling considerably).  Offense is about execution, you can get away with lesser athletes on the OL with good coaching.  Look at all the mid-round guys that the New England Patriots have played with on the OL over the last 20 years.  

Can’t use the Patriots has a repeatable example as they had the greatest O/-Lone coach in the history of football. Follow the money and the money is on the D-Line/Edge

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On 4/12/2020 at 12:17 PM, Huge Football Fan said:

Can’t use the Patriots has a repeatable example as they had the greatest O/-Lone coach in the history of football. Follow the money and the money is on the D-Line/Edge

  Well lets just use that logic then.  You pay people that you can't readily develop........in this case special defensive athletes. 

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