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Report: piles of bricks are being staged in cities around the country, indicating riots are planned

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/report-piles-of-bricks-are-being-staged-in-cities-around-the-country-indicating-riots-are-planned/

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There is a lot of weird stuff going on with these “protests” turned riots in cities across the country.

There are many who were thinking that these riots have Antifa written all over them and that appears to be getting confirmed that these riots were planned, orchestrated events.

All that was needed was a spark, which was the unfortunate incident involving George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Breitbart is reporting that in Dallas, people who were in a position to observe the protests (riots) that took place in that city noted that there were multiple piles of bricks in areas of the city where there was no construction underway.

One of those areas was said to be near the Dallas County Courthouse.

“They” staged a pallet of bricks in Dallaspic.twitter.com/jp9IoUUuRT

— Ali † nabbed Antifa (gotem.gif) (@ali) May 30, 2020

 

“The Dallas protest was a lot of things,” said National Urban League Young Professionals Communications Chairman Reuben Lael in a Facebook post on Saturday. “But I was very disappointed to see this RANDOM stack of bricks in front of the courthouse. #setup.

Pic of bricks in Dallas was at Routh Street and Howell. #DallasProtests #DallasRiots pic.twitter.com/het7XkV0Aa

— Just M (@MFollowsQ) May 31, 2020

 

 

Someone else in the video noted that there wasn’t any type of construction going on anywhere in the immediate vicinity where the bricks were piled up. “There ain’t no damn construction around here,” the voice said. “You’re just gonna set a pallet of bricks right there.”

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Smells like Soros.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Report: piles of bricks are being staged in cities around the country, indicating riots are planned

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/report-piles-of-bricks-are-being-staged-in-cities-around-the-country-indicating-riots-are-planned/

Smells like Soros.

 

 

I saw this as well.  And thought.......Hmmmmm.  But no evidence......

When considering the logistics of carrying brick(s) and then throwing brick(s) you would think they would be in limited supply once tossed through a window or at the cops.

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Jake Paul Swears He Wasn't Looting, Just Being His Usual Shitty Self

https://gizmodo.com/jake-paul-swears-he-wasnt-looting-just-being-his-usual-1843809147

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Prominent vlogger Jake Paul (not to be confused with his equally obnoxious brother, the idiot behind the infamous “suicide forest” video) has landed in hot water again this weekend. Several widely circulated videos on Instagram and Twitter show him and his friends at an Arizona mall while looting is taking place, though it’s unclear from the footage whether they are participating themselves.

On Sunday, Paul shared a statement on Twitter denying that he or his crew took part in the looting going on around them in the video.

“To be absolutely clear, neither I nor anyone in our group was engaged in any looting or vandalism,” he said. “We filmed everything we saw in an effort to share our experience and bring more attention to the anger felt in every neighborhood we traveled through; we were strictly documenting, not engaging.”

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This is about 50% of everybody observed at these incident sites.  They are not protesters or looters or vandals, just people there trying to get more instagram or tik-tok views by saying "look at me, I was there!!!!!!!".  

 

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Protesting Police Violence Is Critical. But Why Are the Social Distance Shamers Suddenly So Quiet?

https://reason.com/2020/05/31/george-floyd-protesters-coronavirus-social-distancing-shame/

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The protesters taking to the streets to demand justice for the killing of George Floyd certainly have a righteous cause. They are, however, breaking just about every rule of social distancing. And many of the most committed voices in support of continuing the aggressive, painful measure to contain the spread of coronavirus suddenly have nothing to say about it.

A month ago, when Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) ended the state's COVID-19 lockdown and allowed gyms, restaurants, nail salons, and other businesses to reopen, many in the mainstream media accused him of wanton disregard for human life. The Atlantic described the state's relaxation of the very strictest social distancing measures as "Georgia's Experiment in Human Sacrifice."

When Florida beaches reopened, it was the same story. CNN highlighted the activism of a local man who had dressed as the grim reaper and was warning sun-bathers that people would die unless they went home. Referencing the stereotype of the Florida man as a reckless and moronic thrill-seeker, The Washington Post wrote that Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) was essentially "standing astride the alligator cage, hollering at the rest of the country to check out what's about to happen."

Photos and videos of people gathering in parks in New York City, beaches in California, and public places elsewhere, have generated thunderous denunciation on social media for the past few weeks. Shaming people for failing to socially distance is now common practice for health authorities, government officials, amateur social media sleuths, and of course, many journalists in the mainstream press. (There has also been some welcome pushback.)

It is no accident that the term Karen, a derisive nickname for a type of snitch who summons the authorities to intervene in trivial matters, has suddenly become culturally ubiquitous. Karens are calling out social distancing fails on social media. Karens are on cable news scolding the unmasked. Karens are giving press conferences threatening those who violate stay-at-home orders with arrest.

It's hard to imagine how that can continue.

In their formal statements, a lot of public officials are (correctly) endorsing the protesters' concerns about police violence, and many have condemned the street violence that occurred during the protests.

But what we are not seeing is widespread condemnation of the protesters on what might have been the most obvious point of criticism: They are manifestly violating the social distancing orders. Again, if we are to believe the earlier, dire warnings from public health officials about what would happen if lockdowns were relaxed too quickly, people who fail to practice aggressive social distancing will spread the disease and get others killed. By the logic of lockdown supporters, even the protesters who are practicing strict non-violence have a lot of blood on their hands.

And make no mistake, the protests unfolding all over the country are violating quarantine in any number of ways. Remember that many places are still under stay-at-home orders, and people are only supposed to go outside for essential work or allowable recreation in small numbers. On the plus side, some protesters are thankfully wearing masks, and their activities are unfolding outdoors, which are both factors that work to stop the spread of the virus. But the sheer number of people involved, packed tightly together, often engaging in high-spread activities—like yelling—certainly override much of the benefit. Even Denver protesters, whose comparatively restrained demonstration involved gathering in a public place and lying prone on the ground for eight minutes—the amount of time Floyd's alleged killer had a knee on Floyd's neck—shouted "I can't breathe," the entire time.

Holding police accountable is a very important cause. But the logic of the lockdowns was that they were so necessary to stem the spread of COVID-19 that they should override other pressing concerns. Small business owners were forced to shutter, and many will close permanently, because policymakers ordained that slowing the pandemic was the top priority. Daring to reopen was an "experiment in human sacrifice," a dangerous practice akin to riding an alligator while yelling yeehaw. California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has fought to prevent churches from reopening to the public, characteristically said the protesters were "rightfully outraged." He did not scold them to go back inside before they get their grandparents killed.

Media and government experts who fail to consistently call out social distancing violations risk giving the impression that their commitment to zealous enforcement of public health measures wasn't as absolute as they claimed. It turns out they are willing to make exceptions for their preferred causes. Perhaps those who previously went overboard on the social distance shaming should admit this was a mistake. The current silence of the Karens is deafening.

Deafening indeed.

 

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From the comments of  recent story about this incident that I read:

 

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Except there’s never a riot when police murder a white guy, just a few egg headed articles on the internet trying to whip up the same furor which go nowhere.

In my estimation there’s a few things rear their heads when you get the typical “black guy killed by a white guy brouhaha” package deal:


1. Protestors. Police really do come down harder on poor and minority communities, especially black ones. Partly because those communities actually do generate the most crime per capita and partly because the cops assume that people who look like they come from them are more likely to be involved in crime. Some people in those communities get out and protest that. You can spot these people really easily because they stick to marches, wave pictures of loved ones, and focus on the negative effects that over-policing has on them and their communities.
2. 16-25 yo Men With Nothing To Do. This includes your college students supporting a woke cause and your aimless part-time-or-un-employed (black) youth who have nowhere else to be after 5pm. These people probably don’t believe as strongly in the cause as Group 1 but with access to a little liquid courage or maybe just a loud enough chant they’ll happily smash a few windows, jump on top of cars, and maybe torch something. They revel in the general low level mayhem that these events bring. You can easily spot them because they are young men, which it is extremely rare to see any of these in Group 1.
3. Actual Honest To God Racists. This group is smaller than the previous two but much louder and will show up quickly to try and whip up group 1 and 2 and will do leg work to boost numbers at the “events”. They hate white people and there is no floor to that depravity. For them, the events have nothing to do with police brutality and everything to do with striking back at “whitey” or “the jews”. There’s some overlap with Group 2 but the easiest way to spot them is that they have no sadness, only anger, and direct it not at police (of any race) but specifically at whites/jews (of any profession). The mayhem brought by this group is an order of magnitude higher than Group 2. They torch buildings, beat people severely/to death, and will gleefully participate in looting.
4. The Professional Outrage Machine. About a day or two after the first protests you’ll see these hucksters show up to take zoom in the lens on a fifty person protest and shoot it from ten different angles to make it look like a five-hundred person protest. They appear on news networks to “explain” the “problem” and wonder aloud when America will ever learn. Also don’t forget to buy their newest book and donate to their charity which helps someone, somewhere, presumably. Also includes every single fringe group from communists to liberterians who see whatever event as the tipping point when the masses will suddenly start taking their opinions seriously (“libertarian moment!”).
5. Organized and Disorganized Crime. These people use full scale riots as cover for theft. Looting can be a business for some. They know that there won’t be any arrests and no one will come looking for them, writing off the whole event as the black community “blowing off steam” so for that night only it’s a free license to smash and grab whatever you like. They don’t march. They don’t protest. They WILL smash things and torch stuff, but only as a pretext to get the cops to leave and to cover for their crimes.

 

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On 5/29/2020 at 8:02 PM, Irishman said:

As far as the rioting goes; here is one of the early entries for the category of "stirring the pot". He is seen walking along the front of this Autozone store breaking the windows; and then walks away from the scene. Looks a bit overdressed. His ex fiance' was shown this and identified him. He is a cop from St. Paul.........hmmmmmm So it appears Chauvin has more supporters. 

 

SF has heard that undercover officers were walking around (like this dude) and when rioters weren't fired up enough, they would break a window and move on so the police on the scene could justify being more aggressive.

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I saw the Minneapolis coroner declared that Floyd's other health issues lead to his death and not asphyxiation. Then this....https://abcnews.go.com/US/independent-autopsy-george-floyd-findings-announced/story?id=70994827&fbclid=IwAR0bf_2_z8zNJmfMHBtEsFBLfx_IArfshtFHxkBkuduA0AeLSdz1zP0XV00

Talk about a systemic problem. The original coroner needs to be held accountable if this follow up autopsy is accurate. 

As far as the riots and the people causing the most trouble; I have seen enough to say that it appears extremists on both ends of the spectrum are stirring the pot. One of the young men shot and killed after Saturday's riots was Chris Beaty. I never coached him but did coach against him. I know a LOT of people who were classmates and teammates of his at Cathedral. I got the chance to get to know him in my few years. He loved Cathedral and IU. He would do anything for anyone who needed help. He liked to give kids playing tips from time to time. I did not know him well, but he had a HUGE personality and always commanded our players' attention. He will be missed dearly. He was merely going to his apartment after parking in the garage. Several people are reporting there were white men in garages near that area that were firing weapons. Two men were hit and killed after Saturday's protests/riots. Unfortunately, there are too many people who really do not want this country to be anything great. They thrive on division and hatred. As Mr. Rogers said, look for the helpers.........my hope is that more good people stand up for what is right, and these extremists are brought to justice.  

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Democrat Governor, Democrat Mayor and a Democrat Senator who refused to prosecute the murderer on prior incidents when she was a prosecutor. Let's hope Minneapolis is capable of conducting a legitimate trial.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Protesting Police Violence Is Critical. But Why Are the Social Distance Shamers Suddenly So Quiet?

https://reason.com/2020/05/31/george-floyd-protesters-coronavirus-social-distancing-shame/

Deafening indeed.

 

The liberal mainstream media hasn't said a word about the lack of masks and social distancing. They are cheering for the rioters to cause more chaos.

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6 minutes ago, Howe said:

The liberal mainstream media hasn't said a word about the lack of masks and social distancing. They are cheering for the rioters to cause more chaos.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/health/protests-coronavirus.html

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Mass protests against police brutality that have brought thousands of people out of their homes and onto the streets in cities across America are raising the specter of new coronavirus outbreaks, prompting political leaders, physicians and public health experts to warn that the crowds could cause a surge in cases.

While many political leaders affirmed the right of protesters to express themselves, they urged the demonstrators to wear face masks and maintain social distancing, both to protect themselves and to prevent further community spread of the virus.

 

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10 minutes ago, foxbat said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/health/protests-coronavirus.html

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Mass protests against police brutality that have brought thousands of people out of their homes and onto the streets in cities across America are raising the specter of new coronavirus outbreaks, prompting political leaders, physicians and public health experts to warn that the crowds could cause a surge in cases.

While many political leaders affirmed the right of protesters to express themselves, they urged the demonstrators to wear face masks and maintain social distancing, both to protect themselves and to prevent further community spread of the virus.

 

Interesting to discover it took the New York Times only five days to mention a word about some of the "protesters" not wearing masks or maintaining social distance. 

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3 minutes ago, Howe said:

Interesting to discover it took the New York Times only five days to mention a word about some of the "protesters" not wearing masks or maintaining social distance. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/minneapolis-mayor-urges-protesters-to-wear-masks-and-practice-social-distancing

https://www.minnpost.com/health/2020/05/the-daily-coronavirus-update-33-more-deaths-walz-shocked-and-horrified-by-footage-of-george-floyd-arrest/

https://www.insider.com/protesters-minneapolis-george-floyd-mitigate-threat-covid-19-2020-5

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/29/metro/what-do-we-want-justice-hundreds-chant-south-end-park-support-george-floyd/

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/28/protest-of-minneapolis-mans-death-blocks-memphis-street

https://abc7.com/black-lives-matter-george-floyd-dtla-protest-downtown-la/6215968/

https://www.fox23.com/news/us-cities-fear/HEG6POGPRVOQI7F7HZJSP4MZBA/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/protesters-torch-minneapolis-police-station-in-violent-night-1.4958121

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2020/05/28/activists-and-community-organizers-demand-release-jailed-protesters/5274679002/

https://kslnewsradio.com/1926173/minneapolis-police-station-torched-amid-george-floyd-protest/

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/coronavirus/2020/05/31/US-cities-fear-protests-over-police-killing-of-Floyd-may-fuel-new-wave-of-coronavirus

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/nation-world/violent-protests-over-floyd-death-spread-beyond-minneapolis

https://abc13.com/minneapolis-police-station-torched-amid-george-floyd-protest/6218926/

https://www.dotnews.com/2020/protesters-decry-floyd-killing-racial-violence-peabody-square

 

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1 hour ago, foxbat said:

A long list of links. I read through the articles and did not see a reference to wearing masks or social distancing in some of the links. Perhaps the reference was included in the video. Several of those articles were published 4-5 days after the riots started. 

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24 minutes ago, Howe said:

A long list of links. I read through the articles and did not see a reference to wearing masks or social distancing in some of the links. Perhaps the reference was included in the video. Several of those articles were published 4-5 days after the riots started. 

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12 minutes ago, Howe said:

A long list of links. I read through the articles and did not see a reference to wearing masks or social distancing in some of the links. Perhaps the reference was included in the video. Several of those articles were published 4-5 days after the riots started. 

All links had text referring to wearing of masks and/or social distancing and are accounted for below.  As for 4-5 days, only 2 of the 14 links appeared 4-5 days after the initial protests started.  Both of those are tied to the FoxNews/AP entry ... with the initial FoxNews link being 4 days and the Al Araybia link being 5 days.  12 of 14 were less than 4 days.  Also note that some are listed at 2 or 3 days after the initial protests began even though the article is referencing an event from the day before the article.  Nonetheless, the days listed are from the date of the first protests in Minnesota, May 26 so the number of days stated below are overstated in some cases and are actually less from the event that they reference. 

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/minneapolis-mayor-urges-protesters-to-wear-masks-and-practice-social-distancing

3 days - “The City encourages everyone to exercise caution to stay safe while participating in demonstrations, including wearing masks and physical distancing as much as possible to prevent the spread of COVID-19,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey’s office wrote in a statement addressed to individuals who took to the streets following the death of George Floyd while in police custody. “The City has made hundreds of masks available to protesters this week.”

https://www.minnpost.com/health/2020/05/the-daily-coronavirus-update-33-more-deaths-walz-shocked-and-horrified-by-footage-of-george-floyd-arrest/

1 day - Gov. Tim Walz and other state officials applauded people who wore masks and did their best to socially distance at a gathering in Minneapolis on Tuesday to protest the killing of George Floyd. 

Floyd died shortly after a Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck for several minutes while Floyd yelled that he could not breathe. More than a thousand people showed up to the protest in south Minneapolis on Tuesday. Most were wearing masks, according to news reports. Police cleared the crowd late in the evening by firing tear gas and other projectiles after some protesters smashed windows of police cars and the Third Precinct building. The police response drew criticism, including from members of the Minneapolis City Council, though Mayor Jacob Frey later defended the police because he said the cars and the precinct had guns in them.

https://www.insider.com/protesters-minneapolis-george-floyd-mitigate-threat-covid-19-2020-5

3 days - Protesters told us why they decided to show up despite the pandemic and how they tried to mitigate the risk of COVID-19.

Many protesters wore face masks during the unrest, but large swaths packed together in the turmoil near the police precinct closest to where Floyd died — the Third Precinct that protesters set fire to later in the night.

Various organizations and individuals organized to mitigate the threat of coronavirus. A church just blocks from the epicenter of the disruption was repurposed as a triage center for injured demonstrators and distributed hand sanitizer and masks.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/29/metro/what-do-we-want-justice-hundreds-chant-south-end-park-support-george-floyd/

3 days - The protest on Washington Street was one of the first large public gatherings since the COVID-19 public health emergency was declared in Massachusetts in March.  Wearing colorful masks, surgical masks, and bandanas tied around their faces, people rallied to mourn and rage, even while distancing as much as they could.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/28/protest-of-minneapolis-mans-death-blocks-memphis-street

2 days - But Mayor Jim Strickland said he wishes more people would have observed coronavirus-related social distancing at a demonstration at a police precinct.

“I wish last night’s protesters would have all had on masks, been six feet apart, and gone through the proper channels to ensure everyone’s safety,” Strickland said in a statement Thursday. “By not doing so, protesters and our officers were unnecessarily put at risk.

Some protesters did not wear face coverings while standing close to each other, violating guidelines put in place by an order governing the city's response to the new coronavirus outbreak.

https://abc7.com/black-lives-matter-george-floyd-dtla-protest-downtown-la/6215968/

2 days - At the start of the protest, the crowds were packed tightly together, with few people observing physical distancing. The use of masks appeared to be inconsistent.

https://www.fox23.com/news/us-cities-fear/HEG6POGPRVOQI7F7HZJSP4MZBA/

4 days - The massive protests sweeping across U.S. cities following the police killing of a black man in Minnesota have sent shudders through the health community and elevated fears that the huge crowds will lead to a new surge in cases of the coronavirus.

Some leaders appealing for calm in places where crowds smashed storefronts and destroyed police cars in recent nights have been handing out masks and warning demonstrators they were putting themselves at risk.

“If you were out protesting last night, you probably need to go get a COVID test this week,” Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said Saturday evening. “There is still a pandemic in America that’s killing black and brown people at higher numbers.”

Minnesota’s governor said too many protesters weren’t socially distancing or wearing masks after heeding the call earlier in the week.

But many seemed undeterred.

“It’s not OK that in the middle of a pandemic we have to be out here risking our lives,” Spence Ingram said Friday after marching with other protesters to the state Capitol in Atlanta. “But I have to protest for my life and fight for my life all the time.”

Ingram, 25, who was wearing a mask, said she has asthma and was worried about contracting the virus. But she said as a black woman, she always felt that her life was under threat from police and she needed to protest that.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/protesters-torch-minneapolis-police-station-in-violent-night-1.4958121

2 days - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called for a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

In New York City, protesters defied New York's coronavirus prohibition on public gatherings Thursday, clashing with police, while demonstrators blocked traffic in downtown Denver and downtown Columbus.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2020/05/28/activists-and-community-organizers-demand-release-jailed-protesters/5274679002/

2 days - The protest, which lasted for hours, came at a time when groups of more than 50 are forbidden in Memphis and Shelby County unless there's a clear social distancing plan. 

The group also expressed concern about Strickland’s criticism of protesters for forgoing social distancing guidelines and placing themselves and the police at risk of COVID-19.

Akinmoladun, one of the organizers, said the demonstration started with observation of social distancing guidelines.

What started out as a spaced-out, silent protest turned into a crowd as tensions flared between protesters and counter-protesters as well as police.

https://kslnewsradio.com/1926173/minneapolis-police-station-torched-amid-george-floyd-protest/

3 days - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called for a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/coronavirus/2020/05/31/US-cities-fear-protests-over-police-killing-of-Floyd-may-fuel-new-wave-of-coronavirus

5 days, but is an overseas republishing of an article that appeared 4 days after on FoxNews - The massive protests sweeping across US cities following the police killing of a black man in Minnesota have sent shudders through the health community and elevated fears that the huge crowds will lead to a new surge in cases of the coronavirus.

Some leaders appealing for calm in places where crowds smashed storefronts and destroyed police cars in recent nights have been handing out masks and warning demonstrators they were putting themselves at risk.

Visit our dedicated coronavirus site here for all the latest updates.

Minnesota’s governor said Saturday that too many protesters weren’t socially distancing or wearing masks after heeding the call earlier in the week.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/nation-world/violent-protests-over-floyd-death-spread-beyond-minneapolis

2 days - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

https://abc13.com/minneapolis-police-station-torched-amid-george-floyd-protest/6218926/

3 days, but a republish of an article that appeared 2 days after protests started - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called for a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

https://www.dotnews.com/2020/protesters-decry-floyd-killing-racial-violence-peabody-square

3 days - All participants in the standout appear to have worn face masks and made efforts to maintain social distancing guidelines during the protest.

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29 minutes ago, foxbat said:

All links had text referring to wearing of masks and/or social distancing and are accounted for below.  As for 4-5 days, only 2 of the 14 links appeared 4-5 days after the initial protests started.  Both of those are tied to the FoxNews/AP entry ... with the initial FoxNews link being 4 days and the Al Araybia link being 5 days.  12 of 14 were less than 4 days.  Also note that some are listed at 2 or 3 days after the initial protests began even though the article is referencing an event from the day before the article.  Nonetheless, the days listed are from the date of the first protests in Minnesota, May 26 so the number of days stated below are overstated in some cases and are actually less from the event that they reference. 

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/minneapolis-mayor-urges-protesters-to-wear-masks-and-practice-social-distancing

3 days - “The City encourages everyone to exercise caution to stay safe while participating in demonstrations, including wearing masks and physical distancing as much as possible to prevent the spread of COVID-19,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey’s office wrote in a statement addressed to individuals who took to the streets following the death of George Floyd while in police custody. “The City has made hundreds of masks available to protesters this week.”

https://www.minnpost.com/health/2020/05/the-daily-coronavirus-update-33-more-deaths-walz-shocked-and-horrified-by-footage-of-george-floyd-arrest/

1 day - Gov. Tim Walz and other state officials applauded people who wore masks and did their best to socially distance at a gathering in Minneapolis on Tuesday to protest the killing of George Floyd. 

Floyd died shortly after a Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck for several minutes while Floyd yelled that he could not breathe. More than a thousand people showed up to the protest in south Minneapolis on Tuesday. Most were wearing masks, according to news reports. Police cleared the crowd late in the evening by firing tear gas and other projectiles after some protesters smashed windows of police cars and the Third Precinct building. The police response drew criticism, including from members of the Minneapolis City Council, though Mayor Jacob Frey later defended the police because he said the cars and the precinct had guns in them.

https://www.insider.com/protesters-minneapolis-george-floyd-mitigate-threat-covid-19-2020-5

3 days - Protesters told us why they decided to show up despite the pandemic and how they tried to mitigate the risk of COVID-19.

Many protesters wore face masks during the unrest, but large swaths packed together in the turmoil near the police precinct closest to where Floyd died — the Third Precinct that protesters set fire to later in the night.

Various organizations and individuals organized to mitigate the threat of coronavirus. A church just blocks from the epicenter of the disruption was repurposed as a triage center for injured demonstrators and distributed hand sanitizer and masks.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/29/metro/what-do-we-want-justice-hundreds-chant-south-end-park-support-george-floyd/

3 days - The protest on Washington Street was one of the first large public gatherings since the COVID-19 public health emergency was declared in Massachusetts in March.  Wearing colorful masks, surgical masks, and bandanas tied around their faces, people rallied to mourn and rage, even while distancing as much as they could.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/28/protest-of-minneapolis-mans-death-blocks-memphis-street

2 days - But Mayor Jim Strickland said he wishes more people would have observed coronavirus-related social distancing at a demonstration at a police precinct.

“I wish last night’s protesters would have all had on masks, been six feet apart, and gone through the proper channels to ensure everyone’s safety,” Strickland said in a statement Thursday. “By not doing so, protesters and our officers were unnecessarily put at risk.

Some protesters did not wear face coverings while standing close to each other, violating guidelines put in place by an order governing the city's response to the new coronavirus outbreak.

https://abc7.com/black-lives-matter-george-floyd-dtla-protest-downtown-la/6215968/

2 days - At the start of the protest, the crowds were packed tightly together, with few people observing physical distancing. The use of masks appeared to be inconsistent.

https://www.fox23.com/news/us-cities-fear/HEG6POGPRVOQI7F7HZJSP4MZBA/

4 days - The massive protests sweeping across U.S. cities following the police killing of a black man in Minnesota have sent shudders through the health community and elevated fears that the huge crowds will lead to a new surge in cases of the coronavirus.

Some leaders appealing for calm in places where crowds smashed storefronts and destroyed police cars in recent nights have been handing out masks and warning demonstrators they were putting themselves at risk.

“If you were out protesting last night, you probably need to go get a COVID test this week,” Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said Saturday evening. “There is still a pandemic in America that’s killing black and brown people at higher numbers.”

Minnesota’s governor said too many protesters weren’t socially distancing or wearing masks after heeding the call earlier in the week.

But many seemed undeterred.

“It’s not OK that in the middle of a pandemic we have to be out here risking our lives,” Spence Ingram said Friday after marching with other protesters to the state Capitol in Atlanta. “But I have to protest for my life and fight for my life all the time.”

Ingram, 25, who was wearing a mask, said she has asthma and was worried about contracting the virus. But she said as a black woman, she always felt that her life was under threat from police and she needed to protest that.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/protesters-torch-minneapolis-police-station-in-violent-night-1.4958121

2 days - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called for a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

In New York City, protesters defied New York's coronavirus prohibition on public gatherings Thursday, clashing with police, while demonstrators blocked traffic in downtown Denver and downtown Columbus.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2020/05/28/activists-and-community-organizers-demand-release-jailed-protesters/5274679002/

2 days - The protest, which lasted for hours, came at a time when groups of more than 50 are forbidden in Memphis and Shelby County unless there's a clear social distancing plan. 

The group also expressed concern about Strickland’s criticism of protesters for forgoing social distancing guidelines and placing themselves and the police at risk of COVID-19.

Akinmoladun, one of the organizers, said the demonstration started with observation of social distancing guidelines.

What started out as a spaced-out, silent protest turned into a crowd as tensions flared between protesters and counter-protesters as well as police.

https://kslnewsradio.com/1926173/minneapolis-police-station-torched-amid-george-floyd-protest/

3 days - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called for a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/coronavirus/2020/05/31/US-cities-fear-protests-over-police-killing-of-Floyd-may-fuel-new-wave-of-coronavirus

5 days, but is an overseas republishing of an article that appeared 4 days after on FoxNews - The massive protests sweeping across US cities following the police killing of a black man in Minnesota have sent shudders through the health community and elevated fears that the huge crowds will lead to a new surge in cases of the coronavirus.

Some leaders appealing for calm in places where crowds smashed storefronts and destroyed police cars in recent nights have been handing out masks and warning demonstrators they were putting themselves at risk.

Visit our dedicated coronavirus site here for all the latest updates.

Minnesota’s governor said Saturday that too many protesters weren’t socially distancing or wearing masks after heeding the call earlier in the week.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/nation-world/violent-protests-over-floyd-death-spread-beyond-minneapolis

2 days - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

https://abc13.com/minneapolis-police-station-torched-amid-george-floyd-protest/6218926/

3 days, but a republish of an article that appeared 2 days after protests started - Erika Atson, 20, was among thousands of people who gathered outside government offices in downtown Minneapolis, where organizers had called for a peaceful protest. Many protesters wore masks because of the coronavirus pandemic, but there were few attempts at social distancing.

https://www.dotnews.com/2020/protesters-decry-floyd-killing-racial-violence-peabody-square

3 days - All participants in the standout appear to have worn face masks and made efforts to maintain social distancing guidelines during the protest.

I see you are as fired up about my statement "the liberal mainstream media hasn't said a word about the lack of masks and social distancing" as you were the Russia hoax and the Mueller Dossier. I should have been more clear in my statement. I was referencing the liberal mainstream media national broadcast news. 

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9 hours ago, foxbat said:

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15 hours ago, Irishman said:

I saw the Minneapolis coroner declared that Floyd's other health issues lead to his death and not asphyxiation. Then this....https://abcnews.go.com/US/independent-autopsy-george-floyd-findings-announced/story?id=70994827&fbclid=IwAR0bf_2_z8zNJmfMHBtEsFBLfx_IArfshtFHxkBkuduA0AeLSdz1zP0XV00

Talk about a systemic problem. The original coroner needs to be held accountable if this follow up autopsy is accurate. 

 

Anyone else surprised to see his death wasn't a Covid-19 related death?  

I mean come on - EVEN IF his death could be because of any other health-related event, the fact that the officer held his knee on Mr. Flloyd's neck for as long as he did with 2 other officers sitting on him had to be the catalyst for killing him.

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It's Nearly Impossible to Fire a Police Officer. Here's Why.

https://mises.org/wire/its-nearly-impossible-fire-police-officer-heres-why

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What does it take to fire a cop? In comparison to several other high-profile cases in which a police officer has killed someone on video, things have moved remarkably fast in the George Floyd case. The other four officers involved in his arrest were fired from the Minneapolis Police Department the following day. By comparison,

  • Fellow Minnesota officer Jeronimo Yanez, who on July 6, 2016, shot and killed Philando Castille in his vehicle after Castille informed him that he was armed, was not relieved until after he was acquitted for manslaughter and reckless discharge of a firearm on May 30, 2017. He was given a $48,500 buyout to leave the St. Anthony department.
  • Cleveland officer Timothy Loehmann, who shot twelve-year-old Tamir Rice on November 22, 2014, was also fired on May 30, 2017. However, his firing was due to withholding information on his job application rather than killing a child who held an airsoft gun.
  • NYPD officer Daniel Pantaleo, who killed Eric Garner over not paying taxes on cigarettes, was not fired until August 19, 2019, a full five years after the latter’s death on July 17, 2014. He plans to file an appeal to get his job back.
  • Philip Brailsford, who shot Daniel Shaver while he lay prone in the hallway of a hotel in Mesa, Arizona, on January 18, 2016, was fired in March of that year. However, he was reinstated in August 2018 for forty-two days in order that he could be medically retired for PTSD (due to his shooting of Shaver) and receive a $2,500 monthly pension.

What I would like to emphasize here, however, is that a police officer being fired is often not the end of the story. Even though the officers involved in Floyd’s death have been fired, they may not stay fired. Many officers, through their collective bargaining agreements and statutes, enjoy the right to appeal their termination to independent arbitration, which often results in their reinstatement.

Mark Iris, a researcher at Northwestern, studied years’ worth of police arbitration decisions in Chicago and Houston and found that in both cities arbitrators overturned disciplinary decisions half the time. Tyler Adams analyzed every published arbitration decision regarding a police officer’s discharge between 2011 and 2015, finding them overturned 46.7 percent of the time. One notable finding from Adams’s research is that an officer’s disciplinary record was raised by one or both parties in nearly every analyzed decision, with those with positive work histories being more likely to be reinstated than those who without them. A potential difficulty with this is that many police union contracts require that misconduct be removed from an officer’s record after a certain period. According to Stephen Rushin’s analysis of one hundred seventy-eight of the largest cities’ police union contracts, eighty-seven (including Minneapolis’s) contain such provisions. Some, such as that of Columbus, Ohio, even prohibit the use of an officer’s history as a factor in determining the propriety of disciplinary action in later investigations.

The ability to appeal to arbitrators has led to many questionable reinstatements. One was Pittsburgh officer Paul Abel, who on one night in 2008 consumed four beers and two shots of liquor. After leaving his wife’s birthday party, Abel claimed to have been sucker-punched in his car while at a stoplight. He retrieved his Glock from the trunk of his car and drove in pursuit of his attacker. Driving around the block, he spotted Kaleb Miller, whom he knew from the neighborhood and believed to be the person who had punched him. Abel then pistol-whipped Miller on his neck and accidentally shot him in the hand. Witnesses testified that the assailant who punched Abel was not Miller. Despite being arrested and fired, Paul Abel successfully appealed his termination. In this respect, Abel is not alone among Pittsburgh police officers:

In December 2009, Eugene 1 was accused of slapping his ex-girlfriend (and his son's mother) so hard that he dislocated her jaw. And in November 2010, Garrett Brown was accused of running two delivery-truck drivers off the road in a fit of rage—an allegation similar to those made against Brown in at least one other late-night traffic encounter.

Each of these men, who were all Pittsburgh Police officers at the time of the incidents, shares a common experience: They all were fired, charged criminally, cleared of those charges…and then got their jobs back through arbitration. And they're not alone. Nine officers were fired by the city between 2009 and 2013, but five of those terminations were overturned by an arbitrator….In cases where terminations were appealed by the police union through arbitration, officers got their jobs back close to 70 percent of the time.

We should expect that the officers involved in the arrest and killing of George Floyd will also appeal their termination. Should they be unsuccessful in this, however, they may be able to find employment as police officers elsewhere. Although most states have some kind of standardized training and licensing of police officers, decertification of fired officers can be notoriously difficult, leading to the phenomenon of the “wandering officer” who goes from department to department. I will discuss this in a future post.

Go public sector unions!

 

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29 minutes ago, swordfish said:

George Floyd death: Trump's church visit shocks religious leaders ...

Crowd Waves to Motorcade Carrying President Obama, Secretary Kerry ...

You are aware the bottom photo has been photoshopped, right? The actual image on the wall is at the memorial to Jose Marti, who is considered a national hero in Cuba in his efforts to liberate Cuba from Spain in the late 19th Century. 

 

The challenge in this is that we ALL have to better than this. 

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