Minneapolis Police Killed George Floyd, Then Failed To Protect Property Owners From Riots

[Howe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GozPhZq_S2k

Edited June 3, 2020 by Howe

[Muda69]

The Answer Isn’t a Free Lunch

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/george-floyd-protests-progressives-have-done-poor-job-governing-cities/

Quote

What if they don’t want anything?

An NBC producer posted a piece of video early Tuesday morning that documented some of the looting in Manhattan, with the looters piling their loot into a Rolls-Royce Cullinan SUV, which goes for about a half-million dollars. (There’s a “base” model at about $350,000, but, the last time I checked, Rolls-Royce had never sold one.) There were some other pretty nice cars being driven by looters, too.

It is possible the Cullinan was stolen, though Rolls-Royces are hard to steal. (They even have a nifty antitheft device protecting their hood ornaments, once a popular target for thieves and vandals.) It took the world about three minutes to chase down Amy Cooper and bully her employer, Franklin Templeton, into firing her after that infamous Central Park confrontation. How many Cullinans are registered in the New York area? Fifty, maybe? It should be pretty easy to discover the owner of the one the looters were driving. That might be an illuminating investigation.

In Dallas, the looters hit (among many others) a shop called Traffic, which deals in very high-end designer clothes. (Think Rick Owens and Yohji Yamamoto, not Armani or Gucci.) Rough justice is expensive: a thousand bucks for a pair of sunglasses, three grand for a pair of sneakers. We have a very peculiar kind of proletariat here in these United States. Les Misérables and a crust of bread it ain’t.

We desperately want this to be about poverty, housing prices, unemployment, wages — anything that would provide us the opportunity to buy off the riots. That is not a dishonorable thing to do, necessarily, or an imprudent one, necessarily. We are a very, very rich society, and the best kind of problem for us to have is a problem that we can throw money at. If you’re a tough guy, you want every problem to be a fistfight. If you’re smart, you want every problem to be a brain-teaser. If you’re a lawyer, you want every problem to be a legal problem. If you have a great deal of money, you want every problem to be a financial problem. That only makes sense.

After the Watts riots, California governor Pat Brown insisted that the fundamental problem was black unemployment. The Ten-Point Program that Huey Newton and Bobby Seale produced in 1966 for the Black Panther Party was pretty heavy on economic demands: full employment (No. 2), “an end to the robbery by the capitalists” (No. 3), housing (No. 4), etc. The non-economic demands ran from the vague (“the power to determine the destiny of our Black Community” was the first item) to the specific: exempting black men from military service (No. 6) and releasing all incarcerated black men (No. 8). Newton and Seale even appealed to the Constitution, demanding that black Americans be tried only by juries composed of other black Americans.

The current convulsions in Minneapolis are not that city’s first. After the 1967 riots, a local civil-rights leader, John S. Hampton, took the opposite of Pat Brown’s economic line. (I will have a great deal more on this in the forthcoming issue of National Review on Friday.) Hampton said: “The primary issue in Minneapolis is not the jobs, or the police or housing or anything like this. It’s simply the hostility, the fear, frustration and the feeling of powerlessness which black people feel in an alien white society. . . . People start feeling like they’re living in an occupied country.”

....  

But here is something to keep in mind: The disparity in life expectancy between black men and white men was declining before the riots of the 1960s, after which it began to increase. The current relative increase in black life expectancies dates from the mid-1990s. The riots of the 1960s may have been a protest against poor conditions in urban life, but they made urban life much worse.

The current rioting and looting risks doing the same thing: Cities such as New York are extremely dependent upon a small number of very wealthy taxpayers — hooray for that progressive tax code. Rich people have options. If they go seeking safe haven, they take their tax dollars with them, which degrades municipal services and governance, which gives the middle class an incentive to move, at least to the suburbs. That’s what happened in American cities after the riots of the 1960s, and it wasn’t just old-line WASPs moving out: Detroit’s black middle class largely left the city, as did much of Washington’s. Minneapolis’s Jewish neighborhoods were left behind by Jewish residents (the riots there in 1967 had a distinctly anti-Jewish aspect), and Philadelphia’s white-ethnic immigrant communities got over the city limit as fast as they could — which turned out to be pretty fast. The people who were left behind were largely black and mostly poor.

The progressives — Pat Brown and the rest — thought they had the answers back in the 1960s. And they have had almost exclusive political control over cities such as Minneapolis for decades. There isn’t a single Republican on the Minneapolis city council and hasn’t been for decades. It is remarkable to see Democrats strutting around saying, “See, we were right all along!” against the background of a catastrophe that happened on their watch. This is not a petty partisan point — it raises a real question: If progressives know what’s good for cities such as Minneapolis, why have they done such a poor job governing them?

If the answer is something poorly defined and amorphous — capitalism, white privilege, inequality, etc. — then the answer may as well be imps or evil spirits or the Bilderberg group. Pat Brown thought the answer was free school lunches. We have those, and breakfast, too, but the discontent endures.

 

[Howe]

On 5/31/2020 at 8:33 PM, Muda69 said:

 

 

Accurate meme and video.

These lunatics are the scum of humanity. Their minions are easily manipulated, gullible fools.

[gonzoron]

[Howe]

On 6/2/2020 at 9:36 AM, swordfish said:

Anyone else surprised to see his death wasn't a Covid-19 related death?  

Autopsy report shows Floyd had tested positive for COVID-19

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/autopsy-report-shows-floyd-had-tested-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB1505Z9?ocid=spartandhp

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A full autopsy of George Floyd, the handcuffed black man who died after being restrained by Minneapolis police, was released Wednesday and provides several clinical details, including that Floyd had previously tested positive for COVID-19.

The 20-page report released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office came with the family's permission and after the coroner's office released summary findings Monday that Floyd had a heart attack while being restrained by officers, and classified his May 25 death as a homicide.

Bystander video showing Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin pressing his knee on Floyd's neck, ignoring Floyd's “I can't breathe” cries until he eventually stopped moving, has sparked nationwide protests, some violent.

The report by Chief Medical Examiner Andrew Baker spelled out clinical details, including that Floyd had tested positive for COVID-19 on April 3 but appeared asymptomatic. The report also noted Floyd's lungs appeared healthy but he had some narrowing of arteries in the heart.

The county's earlier summary report had listed fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use under “other significant conditions” but not under “cause of death.” The full report’s footnotes noted that signs of fentanyl toxicity can include “severe respiratory depression” and seizures.

Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison on Wednesday upgraded charges against Chauvin to 2nd-degree murder, and also charged the three other officers on the scene with aiding and abetting.

Floyd family attorney, Ben Crump, earlier decried the official autopsy — as described in the original complaint against Chauvin — for ruling out asphyxia. An autopsy commissioned by the Floyd family concluded that he died of asphyxiation due to neck and back compression.

[Howe]

It will be interesting to see the outcome of the trials since all four officers have been charged and Chauven has been charged with second degree murder. The official autopsy will certainly play a role in their defense.

Police are rarely ever convicted of murder in Minnesota. Democrats hold the Governor office and Minneapolis mayor office as well as every city council member. Minnesota Democrat Senator Amy Klobuchar had several opportunities to prosecute Chauven on prior incidents yet never filed charges when she was a prosecutor.

Minnesota Democrats have done a terrible job of protecting their black citizens.. 

Edited June 4, 2020 by Howe

[gonzoron]

Just now, Howe said:

It will be interesting to see the outcome of the trials since all four officers have been charged and Chauven has been charged with second degree murder. The official autopsy will certainly play a role in their defense.

Police are rarely ever convicted of murder in Minnesota. Democrats hold the Governor office and Minneapolis mayor office as well as every city council member. Minnesota Democrat Senator Amy Klobuchar had several opportunities to prosecute Chauven on prior incidents yet never filed charges when she was a prosecutor.

Minnesota Democrats have done an terrible job of protecting their black citizens.. 

*Chauvin*

[Howe]

The mainstream media overblown hype of the coronavirus will also play a role in the officers defense. The defense will claim Fentanyl toxicity combined with recent methamphetamine use and COVID-19 were the primary causes of death. 

Democrats ruin everything.

[Howe]

Rioters kill black Police Captain in St. Louis

 

[swordfish]

A question - can anyone dispute this statement from Rush Limbaugh?   And if so, please cite sources.......

"There were 38 police shootings of unarmed black men in 2015, when Obama was in office. Last year under Donald Trump -- and this is the Washington Post database -- there were nine. None of this is acceptable, but things were trending in the right direction."

I went to the WaPost site, but didn't have the time to dissect the data.

[Bobref]

2 hours ago, swordfish said:

A question - can anyone dispute this statement from Rush Limbaugh?   And if so, please cite sources.......

"There were 38 police shootings of unarmed black men in 2015, when Obama was in office. Last year under Donald Trump -- and this is the Washington Post database -- there were nine. None of this is acceptable, but things were trending in the right direction."

I went to the WaPost site, but didn't have the time to dissect the data.

Giving the President either credit or blame for these statistics - regardless of which President you’re talking about - is lunacy.

[gonzoron]

3 hours ago, Bobref said:

Giving the President either credit or blame for these statistics - regardless of which President you’re talking about - is lunacy.

Welcome to the OOB

[Howe]

“The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man"

Malcolm X

[Howe]

Left wing incited rioters murder former Police Captain. Unfortunately Fox News is the only network with broadcast coverage of this senseless murder. 

 

[Muda69]

The Media Has Conveniently Forgotten George W. Bush's Many Atrocities

https://mises.org/wire/media-has-conveniently-forgotten-george-w-bushs-many-atrocities

Quote

Former president George W. Bush has returned to the spotlight to give moral guidance to America in these troubled times. In a statement released on Tuesday, Bush announced that he was “anguished” by the “brutal suffocation” of George Floyd and declared that “lasting peace in our communities requires truly equal justice. The rule of law ultimately depends on the fairness and legitimacy of the legal system. And achieving justice for all is the duty of all.”

Bush’s declaration was greeted with thunderous applause by the usual suspects who portray him as the virtuous Republican in contrast to Trump. While the media portrays Bush’s pious piffle as a visionary triumph of principle, Americans need to vividly recall the lies and atrocities that permeated his eight years as president.

In an October 2017 speech in a “national forum on liberty” at the George W. Bush Institute in New York City, Bush bemoaned that “Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication.” Coming from Bush, this had as much credibility as former president Bill Clinton bewailing the decline of chastity.

Most media coverage of Bush nowadays either ignores the falsehoods he used to take America to war in Iraq or portrays him as a good man who received incorrect information. But Bush was lying from the get-go on Iraq and was determined to drag the nation into another Middle East war. From January 2003 onwards, Bush constantly portrayed the US as an innocent victim of Saddam Hussein’s imminent aggression and repeatedly claimed that war was being “forced upon us.” That was never the case. As the Center for Public Integrity reported, Bush made "232 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and another 28 false statements about Iraq’s links to Al Qaeda." As the lies by which he sold the Iraq War unraveled, Bush resorted to vilifying critics as traitors in a 2006 speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

Bush’s lies led to the killing of more than four thousand American troops and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. But since those folks are dead and gone anyhow, the media instead lauds Bush’s selection to be in a Kennedy Center art show displaying his borderline primitive oil paintings.

In February 2018, Bush was paid lavishly to give a prodemocracy speech in the United Arab Emirates, ruled by a notorious Arab dictatorship. He proclaimed: “Our democracy is only as good as people trust the results.” He openly fretted about Russian “meddling” in the 2016 US election.

But when he was president, Bush acted as if the United States were entitled to intervene in any foreign election he pleased. He boasted in 2005 that his administration had budgeted almost $5 billion “for programs to support democratic change around the world,” much of which was spent on tampering with foreign vote totals. When Iraq held elections in 2005, Bush approved a massive covert aid program for pro-American Iraqi parties. The Bush administration spent over $65 million to boost their favored candidate in the 2004 Ukraine election. Yet, with boundless hypocrisy, Bush proclaimed that “any (Ukrainian) election…ought to be free from any foreign influence.” US government-financed organizations helped spur coups in Venezuela in 2002 and Haiti in 2004. Both of those nations, along with Ukraine, remain political train wrecks.

In that October 2017 New York speech, Bush proclaimed: “No democracy pretends to be a tyranny.” But ravaging the Constitution was apparently part of his job description when he was president. Shortly after 9-11, Bush turned back the clock to before 1215 (when the Magna Carta was signed), formally suspending habeas corpus and claiming a prerogative to imprison indefinitely anyone he labeled a terrorist suspect. In 2002, Justice Department lawyers informed Bush that the president was entitled to violate the law during wartime—and the war on terror was expected to continue indefinitely. In 2004, Bush White House counsel Alberto Gonzales formally asserted a “commander-in-chief override power” entitling presidents to ignore the Bill of Rights.

Under Bush, the US government embraced barbaric practices which did more to destroy America’s moral credibility than all of Trump’s tweets combined. Bush’s “enhanced interrogation” regime included endless high-volume repetition of a Meow Mix cat food commercial at Guantanamo, head slapping, waterboarding, exposure to frigid temperatures, and manacling for many hours in stress positions. After the Supreme Court rebuffed some of Bush’s power grabs in 2006, he pushed through Congress a bill that retroactively legalized torture—one of the worst legislative disgraces since the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. During his years in the White House, Bush perennially denied that he had approved torture. But in 2010, during an author tour to promote his new memoir, he bragged about approving waterboarding for terrorist suspects.

Is Bush nominating himself to be the nation’s racial healer? When he was president, Bush inflicted more financial ruin on blacks than any president since Woodrow Wilson (who brought Jim Crow barbarities to the federal government). Bush trumpeted his plans to close the gap between black and white homeownership rates and promised in 2002 to “use the mighty muscle of the federal government” to solve the problem. Bush was determined to end the bias against people who wanted to buy a home but had no money. Congress passed Bush’s American Dream Downpayment Act in 2003, authorizing federal handouts to first-time homebuyers of up to $10,000 or 6 percent of the home’s purchase price. Bush also swayed Congress to permit the Federal Housing Administration to make no–down payment loans to low-income Americans. Bush proclaimed: “Core American values of individuality, thrift, responsibility, and self-reliance are embodied in homeownership.” In Bush’s eyes, self-reliance was so wonderful that the government should subsidize it. And it didn’t matter whether recipients were creditworthy, because politicians meant well. Bush’s 2004 reelection campaign trumpeted his down payment giveaways, a shining example of “compassionate conservatism.”

Thanks in large part to his policies, minority households saw the fastest growth in homeownership leading up to the 2007 recession. The housing collapse ravaged the net worth of black and Hispanic households. “The implosion of the subprime lending market has left a scar on the finances of black Americans—one that not only has wiped out a generation of economic progress but could leave them at a financial disadvantage for decades,” the Washington Post reported in 2012. The median net worth for Hispanic households declined by 66 percent between 2005 and 2009. That devastation was aptly described in a 2017 federal appeals court dissenting opinion as “wrecking ball benevolence” (quoting a 2004 Barron’s op-ed I wrote). But almost none of the media coverage of the ex-president reminds people of the economic carnage of this Bush vote-buying binge.

It is possible to condemn police brutality and, even more importantly, the evil laws and judicial doctrines that enable police to tyrannize other Americans without any help from a demagogic ex-president who ravaged our rights, liberties, and peace. As I commented in an August 2003 USA Today op-ed, “Whether Bush and his appointees will be held personally liable for their [Iraq War] falsehoods is a grave test for American democracy.” The revival of Bush’s reputation vivifies how our political media system failed that test. As long as George Bush doesn’t turn himself in for committing war crimes, all of his talk about “achieving justice for all” is rubbish.

Agreed.  A horrible POTUS.

 

[swordfish]

On 6/2/2020 at 1:01 AM, Howe said:

A long list of links. I read through the articles and did not see a reference to wearing masks or social distancing in some of the links. Perhaps the reference was included in the video. Several of those articles were published 4-5 days after the riots started. 

 

On 6/2/2020 at 1:26 AM, BARRYOSAMA said:

Fool

Regardless whether the MSM mentioned face coverings or not, did anyone else notice how the Michigan Governor certainly changed her tune pretty quick last week when she welcomed to her state the Flloyd protesters and was pretty quick to wave her wand and release everyone from Covid jail so they could protest without any social distancing rules or ridicule. 

[Muda69]

Horrible behavior by IMPD:

 

[gonzoron]

20 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Horrible behavior by IMPD:

 

My middle daughter will be there tomorrow joining the protest. I hope she stays safe.

[gonzoron]

[gonzoron]

Spot on. Grow as a person.

[Irishman]

4 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Horrible behavior by IMPD:

 

From North Carolina: Interesting comment though. Not sure if it is true, but someone claiming to be from there said these were not police at all, but militia members dressed similar to police to avoid being attacked or arrested. I have not verified that, but there are similar stories from other cities. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/03/george-floyd-protests-police-destroy-medic-station-asheville/3124847001/?fbclid=IwAR0H55usku7Zv918GCCT8VxCMqHb-jiVfHew4J20lQZ5En6GrHrWoUBJ81w

[gonzoron]

5 minutes ago, Irishman said:

I have not verified that, but there are similar stories from other cities. 

And the negative brigade in 3........2..........1..................

[Howe]

[gonzoron]

"If you know anything about Malcolm X, you’d know this isn’t the only instance where he used the term “political chumps”, and he certainly didn’t reserve his criticisms for the Democratic Party. Looking more broadly at his political philosophy, he wasn’t only talking Black Democrats exclusively. He was concerned with Black Liberation from all white supremacist political parties and political structures that took advantage of Black people without promoting their well-being. He believed that Black people, if they did not organize for self-defense and self-determination, could be made “political chumps” by white people in the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the media establishment, the military, and other power structures.

Minister Shabaaz discusses a number of scenarios where Black people could be “political chumps”. In “The Ballot or the Bullet (1964) he also discusses how ameriklan “patriotism” transforms the Black serviceman into a chump when he’s getting riddled with bullets for a country that won’t treat him as a full citizen when he gets home:

When you take your case to Washington, D.C., you’re taking it to the criminal who’s responsible; it’s like running from the wolf to the fox. They’re all in cahoots together. They all work political chicanery and make you look like a chump before the eyes of the world. Here you are walking around in America, getting ready to be drafted and sent abroad, like a tin soldier, and when you get over there, people ask you what are you fighting for, and you have to stick your tongue in your cheek. No, take Uncle Sam to court, take him before the world.

That’s not about party affiliation. That’s about a nationalist/patriotic affiliation with a fundamentally racist government and political system. He’s saying that patriotism makes Black people “political chumps” because the government was never designed to protect our interests, only exploit us for the benefit of white supremacy.

So that’s one place that directly contradicts your attempt to make Shabazz’s words solely about the Democratic Party. But, if you read further, he completely obliterates your apparent attempt to turn this into a “republican versus democrat “ thing:

“I’m not a politician, not even a student of politics; in fact, I’m not a student of much of anything. I’m not a Democrat. I’m not a Republican, and I don’t even consider myself an American. If you and I were Americans, there’d be no problem. Those Honkies that just got off the boat, they’re already Americans; Polacks are already Americans; the Italian refugees are already Americans. Everything that came out of Europe, every blue-eyed thing, is already an American. And as long as you and I have been over here, we aren’t Americans yet.

Well, I am one who doesn’t believe in deluding myself. I’m not going to sit at your table and watch you eat, with nothing on my plate, and call myself a diner. Sitting at the table doesn’t make you a diner, unless you eat some of what’s on that plate. Being here in America doesn’t make you an American. Being born here in America doesn’t make you an American. Why, if birth made you American, you wouldn’t need any legislation; you wouldn’t need any amendments to the Constitution; you wouldn’t be faced with civil-rights filibustering in Washington, D.C., right now. They don’t have to pass civil-rights legislation to make a Polack an American.

No, I’m not an American. I’m one of the 22 million black people who are the victims of Americanism. One of the 22 million black people who are the victims of democracy, nothing but disguised hypocrisy. So, I’m not standing here speaking to you as an American, or a patriot, or a flag-saluter, or a flag-waver — no, not I. I’m speaking as a victim of this American system. And I see America through the eyes of the victim. I don’t see any American dream; I see an American nightmare.”'

[Irishman]

8 minutes ago, Howe said:

But he also says this: "The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them."