Bonecrusher Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 1:14 PM, TrojanDad said: Depends on the effect you are talking about....more incidence given testing? I have no doubt. But will that higher incidence equal seriousness or magnitidue? Guess it depends on if we listen to the press......they don't always focus on both sides of the risk equation. Well said, sir. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrcsage Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Temptation said: “No Marion County school can resume before August 5th and we are meeting with school administrators early next week to see when and IF in person instruction can take place." It’s happening...just a lot slower than last spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrcsage Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Illinois about ready to pull the plug on fall sports and not start anything until January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, wrcsage said: Illinois about ready to pull the plug on fall sports and not start anything until January. I saw somewhere where Iowa is only doing 7 regular season games + tournament. I think the IHSAA here has a couple back up plans. I wouldn't be opposed to starting in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan20 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TheStatGuy said: I saw somewhere where Iowa is only doing 7 regular season games + tournament. I think the IHSAA here has a couple back up plans. I wouldn't be opposed to starting in January. Curious...why do you think it will be any safer in January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven67 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Unfortunately, we keep going from...the death rate is what matters...to... positivity rate matters.... to... cases matter!!! All the while the death rate tanks... this was and is about saving lives.. and we are doing it. The damage that not going to school will do is unrepairable. I feel sorry for a generation that has had to watch adults whine and complain over EVERYTHING. There is no end in sight. When covid goes, you can guarantee we will have something else shutting us down. We will never be the same.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Raven67 said: Unfortunately, we keep going from...the death rate is what matters...to... positivity rate matters.... to... cases matter!!! All the while the death rate tanks... this was and is about saving lives.. and we are doing it. The damage that not going to school will do is unrepairable. I feel sorry for a generation that has had to watch adults whine and complain over EVERYTHING. There is no end in sight. When covid goes, you can guarantee we will have something else shutting us down. We will never be the same.. I said from day one when the talk of school returning began that it would be the adults who were the biggest barriers. I see you at the public pool (with hundreds of other patrons) with your kids, you post pictures from your kids’ travel (where you gathered with hundreds of other adults and children and stayed in hotels) baseball/softball tournaments all over social media and suddenly in mid-July, you “fear” sending them back to school or returning to work yourself and want to “save lives.” Its maddening. Edited July 25, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Raven67 said: Unfortunately, we keep going from...the death rate is what matters...to... positivity rate matters.... to... cases matter!!! All the while the death rate tanks... this was and is about saving lives.. and we are doing it. The damage that not going to school will do is unrepairable. I feel sorry for a generation that has had to watch adults whine and complain over EVERYTHING. There is no end in sight. When covid goes, you can guarantee we will have something else shutting us down. We will never be the same.. Have faith brother. The Best is Yet to Come. 3 hours ago, Temptation said: I said from day one when the talk of school returning began that it would be the adults who were the biggest barriers. I see you at the public pool (with hundreds of other patrons) with your kids, you post pictures from your kids’ travel (where you gathered with hundreds of other adults and children and stayed in hotels) baseball/softball tournaments all over social media and suddenly in mid-July, you “fear” sending them back to school or returning to work yourself and want to “save lives.” Its maddening. Again, President Trump (don’t care if you like him, love him, whatever) was correct. We can’t let the solution be worse than the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Raven67 said: Unfortunately, we keep going from...the death rate is what matters...to... positivity rate matters.... to... cases matter!!! All the while the death rate tanks... this was and is about saving lives.. and we are doing it. The damage that not going to school will do is unrepairable. I feel sorry for a generation that has had to watch adults whine and complain over EVERYTHING. There is no end in sight. When covid goes, you can guarantee we will have something else shutting us down. We will never be the same.. I have work with children who have interrupted schooling, or even no school at all. It is repairable. It simply takes diligence and an understanding of what you are dealing with. It's not exactly difficult. You simply can't skip any steps. You go back to where they are and proceed. I'm watching a lot of whining and complaining. People calling each other packs of wolves or flocks of sheep. Most claiming to be Christian. A splintered cross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed and confused Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Raven67 said: Unfortunately, we keep going from...the death rate is what matters...to... positivity rate matters.... to... cases matter!!! All the while the death rate tanks... this was and is about saving lives.. and we are doing it. The damage that not going to school will do is unrepairable. I feel sorry for a generation that has had to watch adults whine and complain over EVERYTHING. There is no end in sight. When covid goes, you can guarantee we will have something else shutting us down. We will never be the same.. Then quit complaining ! 5 hours ago, Temptation said: I said from day one when the talk of school returning began that it would be the adults who were the biggest barriers. I see you at the public pool (with hundreds of other patrons) with your kids, you post pictures from your kids’ travel (where you gathered with hundreds of other adults and children and stayed in hotels) baseball/softball tournaments all over social media and suddenly in mid-July, you “fear” sending them back to school or returning to work yourself and want to “save lives.” Its maddening. You too ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, dazed and confused said: Then quit complaining ! You too ! Who is complaining? Get them back in school, adjust to life and move on, just like 99.8% of the population has been able to do. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of many adults, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Titan20 said: Curious...why do you think it will be any safer in January? Just being optimistic. I don't see anything returning to somewhat normal till at least then. 4 minutes ago, Temptation said: Who is complaining? Get them back in school, adjust to life and move on, just like 99.8% of the population has been able to do. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of many adults, that's all. Barron Trump isn't going back to school in classroom, why should every other single student? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, DannEllenwood said: Have faith brother. The Best is Yet to Come. Again, President Trump (don’t care if you like him, love him, whatever) was correct. We can’t let the solution be worse than the problem. If Barron Trump isn't going back to in class learning.. Why should our kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Temptation said: Who is complaining? Get them back in school, adjust to life and move on, just like 99.8% of the population has been able to do. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of many adults, that's all. BINGO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabashalwaysfights Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, TheStatGuy said: If Barron Trump isn't going back to in class learning.. Why should our kids? I don't claim to know this, but my guess would be that he was privately tutored before Covid. Again, I'm probably am wrong, but that would be my educated guess. Question to those of you who feel that we should aim for all, or even partial, virtual learning; what about students whose parents (either a single parent or both parents) are working and childcare is an issue? I don't know that this question has been asked on this thread, it's hard to keep track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, wabashalwaysfights said: I don't claim to know this, but my guess would be that he was privately tutored before Covid. Again, I'm probably am wrong, but that would be my educated guess. Question to those of you who feel that we should aim for all, or even partial, virtual learning; what about students whose parents (either a single parent or both parents) are working and childcare is an issue? I don't know that this question has been asked on this thread, it's hard to keep track. In my district (and many others) it’s about SO much more than education/learning. We feed them, we are their only social interaction in many cases, we are their only outlet for physical activity and movement and sometimes their only “safe place.” Its jumped the shark, especially in impoverished communities. The “risk” of getting the virus pales in comparison to the damage being done DAILY in their home environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, wabashalwaysfights said: what about students whose parents (either a single parent or both parents) are working and childcare is an issue? Those parents should continue to do the same thing they do for childcare when school is not in session. Schools aren't babysitters. Any parent looking at it like that isn't doing it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, wabashalwaysfights said: I don't claim to know this, but my guess would be that he was privately tutored before Covid. Again, I'm probably am wrong, but that would be my educated guess. Question to those of you who feel that we should aim for all, or even partial, virtual learning; what about students whose parents (either a single parent or both parents) are working and childcare is an issue? I don't know that this question has been asked on this thread, it's hard to keep track. He attends a private school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, gonzoron said: Those parents should continue to do the same thing they do for childcare when school is not in session. Schools aren't babysitters. Any parent looking at it like that isn't doing it right. But with most districts improving their remote learning models this fall, live instruction will still be taking place during school hours. Leaving kids home alone or taking them to the local day care isn’t going to cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, wabashalwaysfights said: I don't claim to know this, but my guess would be that he was privately tutored before Covid. Again, I'm probably am wrong, but that would be my educated guess. Question to those of you who feel that we should aim for all, or even partial, virtual learning; what about students whose parents (either a single parent or both parents) are working and childcare is an issue? I don't know that this question has been asked on this thread, it's hard to keep track. President Trump LITERALLY answered the question if he is ok and supportive of his son, Baron, and his grandkids going back to school. The answer is yes. He fully supports and will have in person learning. Now. Being relatives of the POTUS, how that looks, is just like any other POTUS. This is directed at stat boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TheStatGuy said: He attends a private school. Which announced recently that they will be going on hybrid model at best in the fall. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/barron-trumps-school-will-not-fully-reopen-in-the-fall/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cw13 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 The President doesn't have to worry about Baron. His school has gone to virtual learning . They don't even start til Sept. 8th. If there is any "hybrid" learning at the school it will be set as to when/which students come in at certain times...well heck I'd be fine with that also. He can say that because his son may not have to set foot in school at all. I'm sure his grandchildren have the same option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cw13 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 KInd of like Pence saying the same thing. Well you don't have to make that choice, your kids are grown. With the 1000 opened jobs here in Indiana and subs needed desperately feel free to send Mrs. Pence to a public school to sub or volunteer where she would be an asset with her teaching license. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabashalwaysfights Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, gonzoron said: Those parents should continue to do the same thing they do for childcare when school is not in session. Schools aren't babysitters. Any parent looking at it like that isn't doing it right. Agreed, but the reality is that schools need to take that into consideration when making their decisions. We can't live with blinders to this issue on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzoron Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, wabashalwaysfights said: We can't live with blinders to this issue on... Taxpayers already fund the schools. I don't want my tax dollars funding babysitters. I'm not blind to the issue, it's an issue of individual responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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