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28 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

So goeth the Big 10 so goeth the IHSAA?

 

I would hope not.. there is not supporting data in Indiana to cancel HS Football. Deaths continue to drop and have flattened EVEN with this "spike". Thats even with the lag to death timeline. Testing is inaccurate both ways. Then about 6 weeks ago the term "positivity rate" was introduced as we flattened the death curve.. We can skew that if we want.. everyone go get tested. For positivity rate to mean anything you have to have a constant. And we just have open testing.. im not getting tested unless I am sick. So positivity rate, to me, is a better measure of the chance that you could have covid IF you feel sick. But all of the sudden deaths don't matter. Then the mom of that freshman IU linemen makes a huge post how her son is really struggling, media picks it up runs with it, would have thought he died. Actually he is back with his teammates, attending workouts and healthy.. imagine that.. at the rate we won't play football for a decade... 

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21 minutes ago, Raven67 said:

I would hope not.. there is not supporting data in Indiana to cancel HS Football. Deaths continue to drop and have flattened EVEN with this "spike". Thats even with the lag to death timeline. Testing is inaccurate both ways. Then about 6 weeks ago the term "positivity rate" was introduced as we flattened the death curve.. We can skew that if we want.. everyone go get tested. For positivity rate to mean anything you have to have a constant. And we just have open testing.. im not getting tested unless I am sick. So positivity rate, to me, is a better measure of the chance that you could have covid IF you feel sick. But all of the sudden deaths don't matter. Then the mom of that freshman IU linemen makes a huge post how her son is really struggling, media picks it up runs with it, would have thought he died. Actually he is back with his teammates, attending workouts and healthy.. imagine that.. at the rate we won't play football for a decade... 

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/brady-feeney-speaks-out-we-want-to-play

 

Feeney said hes not cleared to practice yet. 

 

Tom Allen said hes back with team but is still being evaluated and doing tests

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-coach-tom-allen-upon-learning-of-players-covid-19-complications-you-get-this-sick-feeling-in-your-gut/

So keep posting lies.

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20 minutes ago, TheStatGuy said:

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/brady-feeney-speaks-out-we-want-to-play

 

Feeney said hes not cleared to practice yet. 

 

Tom Allen said hes back with team but is still being evaluated and doing tests

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-coach-tom-allen-upon-learning-of-players-covid-19-complications-you-get-this-sick-feeling-in-your-gut/

So keep posting lies.

Lies??? I guess I have more of a inside source than you and your media articles. FACT is he is becoming healthy again. NOBODY is forcing anyone to play football, it is truly all voluntary. You would think that kids and parents were being held at gunpoint to play. That is so far from the fact. If you don't want to play dont. If you do not want to go to a game... dont go. It really is that simple. Risks are way down in our state. Rising cases and lowering death rates... hmmm. You are the stat guy, look it up.. in the whole state of Indiana today there are 538 confirmed covid patients hospitalized... Lets just pretend that they are all in there from covid only. We are a state of 6.77 MILLION people. Club sports have been going on ALL summer long. Deaths still dropping. I guess #FlattenTheCurve was never about saving people. This has become a pandemic of liability now, not death. Its sad. I am not descended from fearful men, but some of you are. Oh yea... I am a Covid Survivor. I am one of those stats. My dad 76 with underlying health conditions.. Covid Survivor.. The proof is in the puddin.

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1 hour ago, Raven67 said:

I would hope not.. there is not supporting data in Indiana to cancel HS Football. Deaths continue to drop and have flattened EVEN with this "spike". Thats even with the lag to death timeline. Testing is inaccurate both ways. Then about 6 weeks ago the term "positivity rate" was introduced as we flattened the death curve.. We can skew that if we want.. everyone go get tested. For positivity rate to mean anything you have to have a constant. And we just have open testing.. im not getting tested unless I am sick. So positivity rate, to me, is a better measure of the chance that you could have covid IF you feel sick. But all of the sudden deaths don't matter. Then the mom of that freshman IU linemen makes a huge post how her son is really struggling, media picks it up runs with it, would have thought he died. Actually he is back with his teammates, attending workouts and healthy.. imagine that.. at the rate we won't play football for a decade... 

The death rate is low because the older people are following guidelines.  Close to 40% of the cases are in people 29 and under.

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10 hours ago, Raven67 said:

I would hope not.. there is not supporting data in Indiana to cancel HS Football. Deaths continue to drop and have flattened EVEN with this "spike". Thats even with the lag to death timeline. Testing is inaccurate both ways. Then about 6 weeks ago the term "positivity rate" was introduced as we flattened the death curve.. We can skew that if we want.. everyone go get tested. For positivity rate to mean anything you have to have a constant. And we just have open testing.. im not getting tested unless I am sick. So positivity rate, to me, is a better measure of the chance that you could have covid IF you feel sick. But all of the sudden deaths don't matter. Then the mom of that freshman IU linemen makes a huge post how her son is really struggling, media picks it up runs with it, would have thought he died. Actually he is back with his teammates, attending workouts and healthy.. imagine that.. at the rate we won't play football for a decade... 

Here's the deal.  Everyone has their own opinion of risk.  To be totally one-sided and not see the other person's side is well...short-sided.  To downplay a mother's concern for her child and the fact he could've died is wrong.  I hope you don't have anyone you care about get really sick or die from this.  

Now do I think we should play?  The answer is yes.  But if people on the team or in their classroom get sick they will have to sit out and quarantine.  If they test positive they will miss 4 weeks of the season between the 14 days off and the 10 days of practice, not to mention the IHSAA stating that the students will need to get their heart checked and cleared by a doctor.  This is a risk because we don't have any idea about the long term effects of this virus or if you get it once will you be immune from getting it again.  So if you are asymptomatic the first time will you be asymptomatic the second time?  

So if some people feel that they don't want to play or if some schools or conferences don't want to play that is their assessment of the risk.  Instead of being a jerk about it accept their feelings.

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7 hours ago, Plymouthfan91 said:

Here's the deal.  Everyone has their own opinion of risk.  To be totally one-sided and not see the other person's side is well...short-sided.  To downplay a mother's concern for her child and the fact he could've died is wrong.  I hope you don't have anyone you care about get really sick or die from this.  

Now do I think we should play?  The answer is yes.  But if people on the team or in their classroom get sick they will have to sit out and quarantine.  If they test positive they will miss 4 weeks of the season between the 14 days off and the 10 days of practice, not to mention the IHSAA stating that the students will need to get their heart checked and cleared by a doctor.  This is a risk because we don't have any idea about the long term effects of this virus or if you get it once will you be immune from getting it again.  So if you are asymptomatic the first time will you be asymptomatic the second time?  

So if some people feel that they don't want to play or if some schools or conferences don't want to play that is their assessment of the risk.  Instead of being a jerk about it accept their feelings.

Thanks for the the name calling. Typical 2020. I dont agree with you, and im a........ Look man. Myself and my 76 year old father had covid. My dad had severe flu symptoms but recovered fine. I lost my smell and had runny poops for a couple days. My wife works on a covid floor as a nurse. I am a first responder. Trust me when I say that I understand the severity of Covid. I have transported patients to the hospital that called 911 because they thought they were dying. Have you ever looked and cared for someone who honestly believes they are going to the hospital to die? Its not fun. Patients were scared and so was I. March and April were terrifying times at work for me and my wife. It is something I will never ever forget. But now we know SO SO much more with patient care. Its become routine. We have done so much to improve our death numbers, and its working. Media screams case spikes, but im telling you the risk for death is way down. I am empathetic towards the fear of the unknown, but I am comfortable with what I know about covid. I lived it in patient care and in being a patient. So please call me a .......because I am self admittedly a huge whopping peepee most of the time. 

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10 minutes ago, Raven67 said:

Thanks for the the name calling. Typical 2020. I dont agree with you, and im a d%$&. Look man. Myself and my 76 year old father had covid. My dad had severe flu symptoms but recovered fine. I lost my smell and had runny poops for a couple days. My wife works on a covid floor as a nurse. I am a first responder. Trust me when I say that I understand the severity of Covid. I have transported patients to the hospital that called 911 because they thought they were dying. Have you ever looked and cared for someone who honestly believes they are going to the hospital to die? Its not fun. Patients were scared and so was I. March and April were terrifying times at work for me and my wife. It is something I will never ever forget. But now we know SO SO much more with patient care. Its become routine. We have done so much to improve our death numbers, and its working. Media screams case spikes, but im telling you the risk for death is way down. I am empathetic towards the fear of the unknown, but I am comfortable with what I know about covid. I lived it in patient care and in being a patient. So please call me a d@#$, because I am self admittedly a huge whopping peepee most of the time. 

Yikes, dude. 

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5 hours ago, Muda69 said:

So goeth the Big 10 so goeth the IHSAA?

 

It is my belief the IHSAA has passed the call on to each school district. If we were in the playoffs at this point, like we were with basketball in March, then it is their call. But at this point they are what poker players call......pot committed. 

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38 minutes ago, Raven67 said:

Thanks for the the name calling. Typical 2020. I dont agree with you, and im a d%$&. Look man. Myself and my 76 year old father had covid. My dad had severe flu symptoms but recovered fine. I lost my smell and had runny poops for a couple days. My wife works on a covid floor as a nurse. I am a first responder. Trust me when I say that I understand the severity of Covid. I have transported patients to the hospital that called 911 because they thought they were dying. Have you ever looked and cared for someone who honestly believes they are going to the hospital to die? Its not fun. Patients were scared and so was I. March and April were terrifying times at work for me and my wife. It is something I will never ever forget. But now we know SO SO much more with patient care. Its become routine. We have done so much to improve our death numbers, and its working. Media screams case spikes, but im telling you the risk for death is way down. I am empathetic towards the fear of the unknown, but I am comfortable with what I know about covid. I lived it in patient care and in being a patient. So please call me a d@#$, because I am self admittedly a huge whopping peepee most of the time. 

Not cool bro.

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12 minutes ago, Whiting89 said:

Source? Whiting usually the toughest school In the region 

It really doesn’t have anything to do with toughness. If the health department says shut down, you shut down. Also, all it takes is one positive test, and everything can be shut down.

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Two seperate longtime forum members on Harrell's website said they were in line to receive a coronavirus test and completed the paperwork but left without ever taking the test due to long wait times. Both said they received notification that they tested positive for the coronavirus.

It is interesting how our plant never shut down. We have been working 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak and 800 - 900 union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance. A total of 5 people have tested positive for the coronavirus yet we have had no further spread in the past 10 weeks. I have no doubt the coronavirus is real but have serious doubts about the numbers being reported by the mainstream media.

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1 minute ago, Howe said:

It is interesting how our plant never shut down. We have been working 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak and 800 - 900 union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance. A total of 5 people have tested positive for the coronavirus yet we have had no further spread in the past 10 weeks. I have no doubt the coronavirus is real but have serious doubts about the numbers being reported by the mainstream media.

cool story, bro.

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On 8/9/2020 at 1:34 PM, Bobref said:

 

 

What is it that has turned the American public so cynical? Nothing is taken at face value anymore. There is no “benefit of the doubt.” Anything unpleasant becomes the product of an ulterior motive or hidden agenda. Any less than desirable outcome is evidence of a sinister conspiracy. It must be downright uncomfortable living in some of your heads.

I have been in two local situations, one of which gained some national attention. The amount of information that was shared via, local, state, and even national media was laughable. To the point where either they were parroting rumors, or just flat making stuff up. I wouldn’t say I necessarily deem everything as ulterior motives or sinister conspiracy, but I take any from any media with a grain of salt. Particularly early reports on breaking stories. Being a central figure in one of the stories, it was utterly amazing to me the lengths media outlets would go to to contact me and the demanding voicemails and emails I received. I trust a very select group of people, and no one in the media is involved in that group. I don’t hold it against them, they have a job to do, but it doesn’t mean I’m buying all the stuff they’re selling. 

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Apologies if this has already been posted....been saying this for awhile...don't look at deaths as the defining factor in decisions....the long term affects on heart, kidneys, lungs and other organs seems to be a big motivator in some of these decisions. Stinks for all of us!!

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29633697/heart-condition-linked-covid-19-fuels-power-5-concern-season-viability

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8 minutes ago, TruthHammer said:

Apologies if this has already been posted....been saying this for awhile...don't look at deaths as the defining factor in decisions....the long term affects on heart, kidneys, lungs and other organs seems to be a big motivator in some of these decisions. Stinks for all of us!!

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29633697/heart-condition-linked-covid-19-fuels-power-5-concern-season-viability

Enough of the "long term effects" BS from something we just starting dealing with 6 months ago. 

Its these kinds of fear porn stories why we are being paralyzed by something we shouldn't be anymore. 

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