foxbat Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, PhilLee said: Enough of the "long term effects" BS from something we just starting dealing with 6 months ago. Its these kinds of fear porn stories why we are being paralyzed by something we shouldn't be anymore. While I appreciate that folks want to move on, it was just a bit over 5 months ago, on this very site, that the following post showed up to, I'm assuming, discredit or play down, COVID. Given 160,000+ dead since then, it hasn't aged well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven67 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 10 hours ago, foxbat said: While I appreciate that folks want to move on, it was just a bit over 5 months ago, on this very site, that the following post showed up to, I'm assuming, discredit or play down, COVID. Given 160,000+ dead since then, it hasn't aged well. Its aged really well if you consider the estimate from "experts" was 2 Million deaths by now.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappy Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I'm not reading thru 14 pages of this so bear with me. Those that believe the season should be cancelled or postponed to the spring, what would be the signs to return to play? What are the deciding factors that will make you feel comfortable to have a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cappy said: I'm not reading thru 14 pages of this so bear with me. Those that believe the season should be cancelled or postponed to the spring, what would be the signs to return to play? What are the deciding factors that will make you feel comfortable to have a season? Approved vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indian72 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: Approved vaccine I would feel better if the guidelines were followed better by all. Wish the state would mandate temp taking daily which is not that hard not costly. But we have o control of one's personal behavior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 The top lawyer of all time has said the government can mandate a vaccine which is good news for all https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9rNTqCD3N-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 It has to be a school by school decision on what is acceptable to continue the season. In some areas of the state, the threat is not high compared to other parts. Starke County should not tell another county what to do and vice verse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, Julio said: It has to be a school by school decision on what is acceptable to continue the season. In some areas of the state, the threat is not high compared to other parts. Starke County should not tell another county what to do and vice verse. So you feel comfortable playing against watered down competition in the state tournament? Do you have any compassion for your colleagues who aren’t allowed to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayo77 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: So you feel comfortable playing against watered down competition in the state tournament? Do you have any compassion for your colleagues who aren’t allowed to 2 minutes ago, Mayo77 said: 7 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: So you feel comfortable playing against watered down competition in the state tournament? Do you have any compassion for your colleagues who aren’t allowed to Ridiculous question. It is a school by school decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graphic Context Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I am entirely all for leaving these decisions up to the individual. I am not a fan of these season cancellations by these school boards. Everything is voluntary, as it should be. Just my two cents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: The top lawyer of all time has said the government can mandate a vaccine which is good news for all https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9rNTqCD3N-4 The government has the ability to mandate vaccinations under its charge for the public good, but the question ends up being whether it would enforce said mandate. There are places where mask wearing is mandated by the local governing bodies and the enforcement wing is flat out stating that they won't enforce it. 2 hours ago, Raven67 said: Its aged really well if you consider the estimate from "experts" was 2 Million deaths by now.. It hasn't aged well against its OWN metrics. Edited August 11, 2020 by foxbat its instead of it's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappy Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-registers-virus-vaccine-putins-daughter-given-it/ar-BB17P1Gf?ocid=spartanntp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 More than 200 Delaware Community students quarantined https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/2020/08/11/coronavirus-del-com-students-quarantined-royerton-eaton-albany-delta-schools-covid-19/3342523001/ Quote MUNCIE, Ind. — Delaware Community Schools has sent 228 students home to quarantine to help prevent the spread of coronavirus 2019 (COVID-19). A football player at Delta High School tested positive for the virus several days ago, and the school district continues to be aware of only that one case. "However, after yesterday, we know of a few students who are in the testing process, are experiencing many of the COVID-19 symptoms, and may have direct connections to our positive case," Superintendent Reece Mann told The Star Press. As of Tuesday morning, the following numbers of students were in quarantine: Royerton Elementary School — 1 Eaton Elementary School — 6 Albany Elementary School — 0 Delta Middle School — 68 Delta High School — 153 Enrollment at Del-Com is around 2,600. "Obviously, making an attempt to contact trace the entire football team was not only problematic but without specific seating charts and cameras to monitor, the administration and coaches felt it safest to begin the process of quarantining to minimize potential exposures of greater magnitudes," Mann said in an email. "Unfortunately, we are in a situation where parents seem to be sending their child/children to school even when they are symptomatic or possibly even when they, as parents, have been tested and are awaiting the results, later to find out they are positive," the superintendent went on. "We continue to contact trace when we have students who have been exposed to the virus outside of school and exhibit the symptoms associated with the virus," Mann reported. "Obviously, this seems to be a daily tracking and hopefully, when some of the test results come back, we will shorten the days needed for several students to be in quarantine." Greg Kile, director of curriculum/assessment at the district, is serving as the point person when phone calls from principals and school nurses come in to the central office. Mann and Kile are consulting with the Delaware County Health Department during development of individual plans based on each case reported. Kile created a detailed spreadsheet that tracks each occurrence along with anticipated return dates for students. The superintendent applauded the Delaware County Health Department for serving as "a viable asset as we work through each situation to formulate a plan to proceed. On each occasion, we are utilizing classroom seating charts, bus seating charts, cameras for hallways/cafeteria to assist in notifying the appropriate student and parent." Nearly 90 of the high school students are scheduled to return on Aug. 19. Appears to be turning into a complete debacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbc34 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: The top lawyer of all time has said the government can mandate a vaccine which is good news for all https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9rNTqCD3N-4 Good luck with that. Millions of people will fight against that. Millions. You can't rush something into production and start injecting people with an unknown product when you don't incur any of the liability on if it works and what serious side effects it might cause. Plus we already know it won't "cure" anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: The top lawyer of all time You think so? Using what objective criteria? Edited August 11, 2020 by Muda69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Muda69 said: You think so? Using what objective criteria? Net worth, teaching position held, cases won and general disdain by cnn shows me he knows what’s up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven67 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: More than 200 Delaware Community students quarantined https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/2020/08/11/coronavirus-del-com-students-quarantined-royerton-eaton-albany-delta-schools-covid-19/3342523001/ Appears to be turning into a complete sh*tshow................. Or they are just following protocols.. A crap show would be not quarantining anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, Raven67 said: Or they are just following protocols.. A show would be not quarantining anyone. But isn't this "quarantine" really just "don't come into the school building"? How can government school officials force an individual to quarantine in their own home, and not go anywhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Muda69 said: But isn't this "quarantine" really just "don't come into the school building"? How can government school officials force an individual to quarantine in their own home, and not go anywhere else? By moving to China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muda69 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Whiting89 said: Net worth, teaching position held, cases won and general disdain by cnn shows me he knows what’s up A hardly objective criterion. Just now, Titan32 said: By moving to China. ? So government officials should force individuals to move to China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan32 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Muda69 said: A hardly objective criterion. ? So government officials should force individuals to move to China? I think you got the point. You can't enforce anything in our free country as effectively as say a communist regime can. Given our freedoms...we can't really even do a shutdown very well. We are going to have to learn to work with protocols and keep pretty much every aspect of society going. We have that freedom of choice to stay home and in most cases to do virtual education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven67 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Muda69 said: But isn't this "quarantine" really just "don't come into the school building"? How can government school officials force an individual to quarantine in their own home, and not go anywhere else? You just explained everything. The only thing keeping anyone honest is the chance of a season for the players. If not, they will just do their thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS Titan 78 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Titan32 said: By moving to China. Is the Covid-19 real? Absolutely! Is the NBA-MLB-CFB-NFL-Nascar and schools overreacting to the Covid-19 virus? Absolutely! Political motivated? Absolutely? My opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I do have compassion for those that can not play, but I am not going to make my guys suffer as well. I can only play them teams that are assigned to me to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStatGuy Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, Titan32 said: I think you got the point. You can't enforce anything in our free country as effectively as say a communist regime can. Given our freedoms...we can't really even do a shutdown very well. We are going to have to learn to work with protocols and keep pretty much every aspect of society going. We have that freedom of choice to stay home and in most cases to do virtual education. France isn't communist, England isn't communist and Canada isn't communist. They shut down and it seems their slowly getting back to life. They have freedoms like we do. We just didn't treat this seriously sooner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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