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1 hour ago, dazed and confused said:

Michigan City just played Chesterton so are there any concerns about them ?

I wonder if this won’t affect Chesterton because it was a coach, not a player. The coach is the person you would have to be in close contact, and the MC players are close contact, would Chesterton quarantine for being a close contact of a close contact? How many levels of contact tracing goes too far?

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I don't like the headline of this thread.  I guess "suspends season" is technically correct, but I thought after reading the headline they were done for the year.

"Suspended for two weeks" is a lot less jarring to read.

As far as Chesterton - 48 hours prior to symptoms is the worrisome timeframe.  Depending on when the coach started showing symptoms, Friday night may not be in that window. 

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35 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

I don't like the headline of this thread.  I guess "suspends season" is technically correct, but I thought after reading the headline they were done for the year.

"Suspended for two weeks" is a lot less jarring to read.

As far as Chesterton - 48 hours prior to symptoms is the worrisome timeframe.  Depending on when the coach started showing symptoms, Friday night may not be in that window. 

The statement from the MCHS athletic department was posted at midnight and clearly states, “Wolves Football Program Suspended”.

Here is a statement from coach Mason,

 

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That's ridiculous.

ONE coach has a fever and he's considered a "close contact" of 100 football players?  And this shuts down the entire football program for 2 weeks?

Are these coaches living with 100 players?  Otherwise, there is ZERO reason to be doing this.  

Feel bad for the kids who are being forced in this school system to be under these idiotic rules. 

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5 minutes ago, PhilLee said:

That's ridiculous.

ONE coach has a fever and he's considered a "close contact" of 100 football players?  And this shuts down the entire football program for 2 weeks?

Are these coaches living with 100 players?  Otherwise, there is ZERO reason to be doing this.  

Feel bad for the kids who are being forced in this school system to be under these idiotic rules. 

Infectious disease specialist?

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I work in a manufacturing plant with over, 1,000 union workers where 80-90% refuse to wear masks . Our plant never shut down and had five people test positive for the coronavirus on two seperate ocassions. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy on May 04. The union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance and the union supports their workforce.  I observe hundreds playing cards at picnic tables during their break and lunch periods. They sit in groups of four and no one is more than two feet away from the other three workers. No one is wearing masks or social distancing.

The plant has worked 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak including all 31 days in August. There has been no further spread of the coronavirus for the past 124 days. Virtually no one is wearing masks or social distancing.  The human immune system and herd immunity is the key. All of this social distancing and wearing cheap non medical grade masks from China is nonsense.

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7 minutes ago, Howe said:

I work in a manufacturing plant with over, 1,000 union workers where 80-90% refuse to wear masks . Our plant never shut down and had five people test positive for the coronavirus on two seperate ocassions. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy on May 04. The union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance and the union supports their workforce.  I observe hundreds playing cards at picnic tables during their break and lunch periods. They sit in groups of four and no one is more than two feet away from the other three workers. No one is wearing masks or social distancing.

The plant has worked 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak including all 31 days in August. There has been no further spread of the coronavirus for the past 124 days. Virtually no one is wearing masks or social distancing.  The human immune system and herd immunity is the key. All of this social distancing and wearing cheap non medical grade masks from China is nonsense.

I'm surprised the State Health Department hasn't caught wind and been involved. Not that I agree with them doing so, but the company would be in for some fines by the State Health Department which I would imagine create action with the Union. The Health Department has been issuing fines to places of business not in compliance with the mandates.

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1 minute ago, FastpacedO said:

I'm surprised the State Health Department hasn't caught wind and been involved. Not that I agree with them doing so, but the company would be in for some fines by the State Health Department which I would imagine create action with the Union. The Health Department has been issuing fines to places of business not in compliance with the mandates.

Unions receive legal counsel from high powered lawyers. The legal counsel of the company obviously fears losing an arbitration hearing or a court case. OSHA toured the plant three weeks ago. The union workers still refuse to wear masks or social distance. I'm confident herd immunity was reached in early May. 

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17 minutes ago, Howe said:

I work in a manufacturing plant with over, 1,000 union workers where 80-90% refuse to wear masks . Our plant never shut down and had five people test positive for the coronavirus on two seperate ocassions. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy on May 04. The union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance and the union supports their workforce.  I observe hundreds playing cards at picnic tables during their break and lunch periods. They sit in groups of four and no one is more than two feet away from the other three workers. No one is wearing masks or social distancing.

The plant has worked 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak including all 31 days in August. There has been no further spread of the coronavirus for the past 124 days. Virtually no one is wearing masks or social distancing.  The human immune system and herd immunity is the key. All of this social distancing and wearing cheap non medical grade masks from China is nonsense.

Do they still have high school football eligibility left and can commute to Michigan City? 

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6 hours ago, Jim Beaver said:

Means Valpo and Mville game canceled....

Per IHSAA bylaws the home game against Lake Central also has to be cancelled.  If a player misses 10 consecutive days of practice they are required to have 6 practices prior to their next contest. 

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9-14 Practice Attendance Required to Participate in a Contest A student-athlete must attend and actively participate in regularly scheduled Practice sessions to be eligible for interschool athletic competition. If a student fails to attend and actively participate in regularly scheduled Practice sessions, such student shall be required to complete the following prior to participating in a Contest: a. attend and actively participate in all required Pre-participation Practice sessions, see rules 50 and 101; b. attendance and active participation in Four (4) school-supervised Practice sessions of normal length, which shall occur on Four (4) separate days prior to the day of the Contest, if the student fails to attend and actively participate in more than Four (4) but less than Eleven (11) consecutive days of regularly scheduled Practice; c. attendance and active participation in Six (6) school supervised Practice sessions of normal length, which shall occur on Six (6) separate days prior to the day of the Contest, if the student fails to attend and actively participate in more than Ten (10) consecutive days of regularly scheduled Practice. INTERPRETATION: Days Missed No. of Practices Required 5 to 10 4 More than 10 consecutive 6

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3 hours ago, PhilLee said:

That's ridiculous.

ONE coach has a fever and he's considered a "close contact" of 100 football players?  And this shuts down the entire football program for 2 weeks?

Are these coaches living with 100 players?  Otherwise, there is ZERO reason to be doing this.  

Feel bad for the kids who are being forced in this school system to be under these idiotic rules. 

 

2 hours ago, Howe said:

I work in a manufacturing plant with over, 1,000 union workers where 80-90% refuse to wear masks . Our plant never shut down and had five people test positive for the coronavirus on two seperate ocassions. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy on May 04. The union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance and the union supports their workforce.  I observe hundreds playing cards at picnic tables during their break and lunch periods. They sit in groups of four and no one is more than two feet away from the other three workers. No one is wearing masks or social distancing.

The plant has worked 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak including all 31 days in August. There has been no further spread of the coronavirus for the past 124 days. Virtually no one is wearing masks or social distancing.  The human immune system and herd immunity is the key. All of this social distancing and wearing cheap non medical grade masks from China is nonsense.

 

2 hours ago, Howe said:

Unions receive legal counsel from high powered lawyers. The legal counsel of the company obviously fears losing an arbitration hearing or a court case. OSHA toured the plant three weeks ago. The union workers still refuse to wear masks or social distance. I'm confident herd immunity was reached in early May. 

 

44 minutes ago, Howe said:

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Take it up with the LaPorte County Health Department... we are tired of the opinions !!!! Maybe one of these days you will get it ! (doubtfall)

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6 hours ago, Howe said:

I work in a manufacturing plant with over, 1,000 union workers where 80-90% refuse to wear masks . Our plant never shut down and had five people test positive for the coronavirus on two seperate ocassions. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy on May 04. The union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance and the union supports their workforce.  I observe hundreds playing cards at picnic tables during their break and lunch periods. They sit in groups of four and no one is more than two feet away from the other three workers. No one is wearing masks or social distancing.

The plant has worked 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak including all 31 days in August. There has been no further spread of the coronavirus for the past 124 days. Virtually no one is wearing masks or social distancing.  The human immune system and herd immunity is the key. All of this social distancing and wearing cheap non medical grade masks from China is nonsense.

You're pointing out the difference between adults and minors.

The school has king size liability here. They cant ignore a contact with kids who are under age. 

Adults can take health risks.  Kids, legally, cant.     The school had to do this. The season is not over for MC.

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6 hours ago, PhilLee said:

That's ridiculous.

ONE coach has a fever and he's considered a "close contact" of 100 football players?  And this shuts down the entire football program for 2 weeks?

Are these coaches living with 100 players?  Otherwise, there is ZERO reason to be doing this.  

Feel bad for the kids who are being forced in this school system to be under these idiotic rules. 

 

5 hours ago, Howe said:

I work in a manufacturing plant with over, 1,000 union workers where 80-90% refuse to wear masks . Our plant never shut down and had five people test positive for the coronavirus on two seperate ocassions. The company implemented a mandatory mask policy on May 04. The union workers refuse to wear masks or social distance and the union supports their workforce.  I observe hundreds playing cards at picnic tables during their break and lunch periods. They sit in groups of four and no one is more than two feet away from the other three workers. No one is wearing masks or social distancing.

The plant has worked 6-7 days per week since the coronavirus outbreak including all 31 days in August. There has been no further spread of the coronavirus for the past 124 days. Virtually no one is wearing masks or social distancing.  The human immune system and herd immunity is the key. All of this social distancing and wearing cheap non medical grade masks from China is nonsense.

These two goons are idiots.  We are trying to keep the spread down so kids CAN play.  Hopefully none of the players or other coaches are sick.  Obviously Howe doesn't trust science and that is why he still follows the herd immunity idea.  For Herd Immunity to happen safely we need a vaccine until then we need to slow the spread so our hospitals aren't overrun with the sick.  The stupidity of the uneducated is why we are in the mess we are in right now.  If only we listened in May and June and opened slowly, wore masks, and avoided large gatherings we would have this much more under control.  All kids would be in LIVE school and we would've avoided a lot of sickness and death in our country.

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I laugh at these people claiming “science” supports the strategy of sheltering in place and wearing cheap non medical grade masks from China as protection from the coronavirus. Most of the people in Education have been locked out of their schools for the past five months while listening to fake news. It is business as usual in the manufacturing plant where I work. Approximately 800-900 workers ignored the mask and social distance rules. No one has tested positive for the coronavirus for the past 124 days. Virtually no one has worn masks or practiced social distancing for the past four months. 

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12 minutes ago, Jim Beaver said:

Interesting. United Auto Workers are guaranteed a 40 hour paycheck regardless of whether they show up for work or not. August and September are extremely hot and very busy months in automotive plants. It will be interesting to see if the Japanese, Korean and German owned auto manufacturing plants in America  are experiencing the same issues.

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